rooster59 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 Thailand bribery rate is worse than Myanmar and Cambodia: survey By The Nation Transparency International has published its 2017 report of global corruption barometer entitled “People and Corruption : Asia Pacific.” It estimates that more than 900 million people across the 16 surveyed places had paid a bribe in the past year when trying to access basic services such as education or healthcare. Bribery rates for countries vary considerably across the region – from 0.2 per cent in Japan to 69 per cent in India. The bribery rate for Thailand is 41 per cent compared to rate for Cambodia and Myanmar 40 per cent. Vietnam’s rate is 65 per cent, while rates for Indonesia and Malaysia are 32 per cent and 23 per cent respectively. The bribery rate for China is 26 per cent. Transparency International said that it spoke to nearly 22,000 people about their recent experiences with corruption in 16 countries and territories in the Asia Pacific region. It also noted that public-sector graft is a crime that affects men and women, young and old, rich and poor, and must be urgently addressed in order to further social progress in the region. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30309518 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-03-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBob Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 From the report. Thailand dropped to 35 in its score this year, reinforcing the link between perceived corruption and political turmoil. Government repression, lack of independent oversight, and the deterioration of rights eroded public confidence in the country. Thailand's new constitution, while it places significant focus on addressing corruption, entrenches military power and unaccountable government, undermining eventual return to democratic civilian rule. Free debate on the constitution was impossible; campaigning in opposition was banned and dozens of people were detained. The military junta also prohibited monitoring of the referendum. There is a clear absence of independent oversight and rigorous debate. http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/asia_pacific_fighting_corruption_is_side_lined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 6 hours ago, ThaiBob said: From the report. Thailand dropped to 35 in its score this year, reinforcing the link between perceived corruption and political turmoil. Government repression, lack of independent oversight, and the deterioration of rights eroded public confidence in the country. Thailand's new constitution, while it places significant focus on addressing corruption, entrenches military power and unaccountable government, undermining eventual return to democratic civilian rule. Free debate on the constitution was impossible; campaigning in opposition was banned and dozens of people were detained. The military junta also prohibited monitoring of the referendum. There is a clear absence of independent oversight and rigorous debate. http://www.transparency.org/news/feature/asia_pacific_fighting_corruption_is_side_lined Pretty much sums up what most on here have been saying about Prayuth and his group for the last 3 years. It's all been about Prayuth and total power and domination of the people whilst spruiking his return to happiness and uniting the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 41% is shameful, but Thailand has always been broken, just more now than before. But thanks to Thailand's current poor performance, the rest of SE Asia is benefiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryinTH Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, yellowboat said: 41% is shameful, but Thailand has always been broken, just more now than before. But thanks to Thailand's current poor performance, the rest of SE Asia is benefiting. Thailand 5 years ago was much more fun than today. I don't judge that by who ever was in charge during that time, but whoever it was, he/she left most of us alone. No constant changes of the visa rules, no insane 'happy zones' and bogus raids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, JerryinTH said: Thailand 5 years ago was much more fun than today. I don't judge that by who ever was in charge during that time, but whoever it was, he/she left most of us alone. No constant changes of the visa rules, no insane 'happy zones' and bogus raids. Yes, the fun has moved on to Cambodia, Burma and Vietnam. You can feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainarong Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 10 minutes ago, JerryinTH said: Thailand 5 years ago was much more fun than today. I don't judge that by who ever was in charge during that time, but whoever it was, he/she left most of us alone. No constant changes of the visa rules, no insane 'happy zones' and bogus raids. You should've been around in 97/98 Thailand was the in word on everyone's lips, the emerging economy they said, in everything from commerce to living there, everybody talked about Thailand, they still do with distaste.......................................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 LOL. Tell me something I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 As they say, "Nothing is possible, everything can be arranged." I fear the DLT "fee" for a quickie DL will be going up soon what with all the new "requirements". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 And that came as a supprise thunderstorm out of a clear blue sky to anybody??? One of the most funny things that I´ve always been amazed over is how perfectly Thailand managed to change it´s corruption from hiding out in and open to public, and everyone just go along and accept it. A bunch of nuts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash999 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 There's no way this is accurate. Who on earth did they survey? In Myanmar corruption is everywhere. Run a factory and expect surprise visits from officials on a monthly basis. Your whole day disappears as they run around finding violations and assessing on the spot fines. Then they expect you to take them to lunch or dinner with free flow whiskey. Goods ready for delivery? Send a crew with the container to get it through customs, X-ray, and onto the boat. Each with small payments to keep things moving. Traffic police I would say are about the same as Thailand. But that's about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 1 hour ago, whatawonderfulday said: Agree with you but those in denial, those who support armed coups, those who prefer the feudal system, those who perhaps are connected to the Elite and those other TV posters who are wearing the rose tinted glasses and most probably never lived in Thailand, those who think Bangkok and Pattaya are the epicentres of all Thai life, will now most probably crawl out in support of the corrupt administration and its influential supporters. whatawonderfulthoughtfortheday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong38 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 On target for a HUB here I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 1 hour ago, whatawonderfulday said: Agree with you but those in denial, those who support armed coups, those who prefer the feudal system, those who perhaps are connected to the Elite and those other TV posters who are wearing the rose tinted glasses and most probably never lived in Thailand, those who think Bangkok and Pattaya are the epicentres of all Thai life, will now most probably crawl out in support of the corrupt administration and its influential supporters. You seem to have a very short memory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penicillin Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Bribery comes in different forms depending on the country . In the United States government it is legal ; but you can't say the word "bribery" you can only say "lobbyists"...then it's ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ameadi Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 13 hours ago, rooster59 said: Thailand bribery rate is worse than Myanmar and Cambodia: survey By The Nation Transparency International has published its 2017 report of global corruption barometer entitled “People and Corruption : Asia Pacific.” It estimates that more than 900 million people across the 16 surveyed places had paid a bribe in the past year when trying to access basic services such as education or healthcare. Bribery rates for countries vary considerably across the region – from 0.2 per cent in Japan to 69 per cent in India. The bribery rate for Thailand is 41 per cent compared to rate for Cambodia and Myanmar 40 per cent. Vietnam’s rate is 65 per cent, while rates for Indonesia and Malaysia are 32 per cent and 23 per cent respectively. The bribery rate for China is 26 per cent. Transparency International said that it spoke to nearly 22,000 people about their recent experiences with corruption in 16 countries and territories in the Asia Pacific region. It also noted that public-sector graft is a crime that affects men and women, young and old, rich and poor, and must be urgently addressed in order to further social progress in the region. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30309518 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-03-18 How many times Thai Visa wanna post the same news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, ameadi said: How many times Thai Visa wanna post the same news? They're testing the law of diminishing returns to see how many iterations and permutations before they don't get enough clicks. Looks like they'll have to continue testing... Baiting Thai bashers seems to be a winning formula that keeps on giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 3 hours ago, yellowboat said: Yes, the fun has moved on to Cambodia, Burma and Vietnam. You can feel it. Yes, and Fun is also bringing along Corruption...to these places. Ever wonder why Laos is no fun at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFishman1 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 All I want to know Where did the PM GET ALL HIS Money. TIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 38 minutes ago, TheFishman1 said: All I want to know Where did the PM GET ALL HIS Money. TIT Shhh...not allowed too ask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 15 hours ago, rooster59 said: Thailand bribery rate is worse than Myanmar and Cambodia: survey By The Nation Transparency International has published its 2017 report of global corruption barometer entitled “People and Corruption : Asia Pacific.” It estimates that more than 900 million people across the 16 surveyed places had paid a bribe in the past year when trying to access basic services such as education or healthcare. Bribery rates for countries vary considerably across the region – from 0.2 per cent in Japan to 69 per cent in India. The bribery rate for Thailand is 41 per cent compared to rate for Cambodia and Myanmar 40 per cent. Vietnam’s rate is 65 per cent, while rates for Indonesia and Malaysia are 32 per cent and 23 per cent respectively. The bribery rate for China is 26 per cent. Transparency International said that it spoke to nearly 22,000 people about their recent experiences with corruption in 16 countries and territories in the Asia Pacific region. It also noted that public-sector graft is a crime that affects men and women, young and old, rich and poor, and must be urgently addressed in order to further social progress in the region. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30309518 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-03-18 Here is a verbal like you deserve one my like button is not working guess its gone on holidays with the nice weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belzybob Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Obviously this survey was based on overt bribery rather than covert. Otherwise Australia would have featured much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemorechang Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Somtamnication said: LOL. Tell me something I don't know. End of this month winning lottery numbers 05-79-56 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, elgordo38 said: Here is a verbal like you deserve one my like button is not working guess its gone on holidays with the nice weather. Yep, error code 2F173/1 whatever that is, now you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 4 hours ago, JerryinTH said: Thailand 5 years ago was much more fun than today. I don't judge that by who ever was in charge during that time, but whoever it was, he/she left most of us alone. No constant changes of the visa rules, no insane 'happy zones' and bogus raids. My tenure here has been long enough to agree. I think that politicians are in this for self enrichment say 25% for them and 75% for us and its a world wide thing. I think we are seeing a reversal of these numbers now. The junta seems to have achieved their goal to hoodwink the locals but their propaganda does not wash with us who have had outside exposure. I because of age have quit pursuing the "holy grail" or Utopia. This is Custards Last Stand for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, maxcorrigan said: Yep, error code 2F173/1 whatever that is, now you know! Thanks maxcorrigan. Seems I saw that number stamped on my body somewhere. Now my quote button quit to. Oh isolation. I can still reply to messages likes yours. Oh well perfection does not exist in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 4 hours ago, whatawonderfulday said: Agree with you but those in denial, those who support armed coups, those who prefer the feudal system, those who perhaps are connected to the Elite and those other TV posters who are wearing the rose tinted glasses and most probably never lived in Thailand, those who think Bangkok and Pattaya are the epicentres of all Thai life, will now most probably crawl out in support of the corrupt administration and its influential supporters. Without a doubt. I honestly wonder at what goes on in the minds of the fanboys. Very sick people in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 13 minutes ago, jesimps said: Without a doubt. I honestly wonder at what goes on in the minds of the fanboys. Very sick people in my view. I honestly wonder the same thing about your side, the side that accepts that their government has an armed terrorist wing the red shirts who wore black and fired at the army causing the army to fire back and cause the causalities. The same red shirts who killed kids and unarmed protesters sick actually that someone could support that. Or maybe you can support parts of a goverment just like i support some things of the junta and not all of its.. its not all black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyk Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 I'm a real outcast in Thailand. NO one has ever tried to bribe me dang it!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swissbie Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 5 hours ago, chainarong said: You should've been around in 97/98 Thailand was the in word on everyone's lips, the emerging economy they said, in everything from commerce to living there, everybody talked about Thailand, they still do with distaste.......................................... Sorry, but you are wrong. 97/98 was the big asien financial crisis, startet from Thailand. Was nice for tourists and pensioners because of money devaluation, but not for the economy. But yes, less prohibitions though i don't think there was less corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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