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[nasa123]

Retirement extension

Persons who are 50 years old or above and which fulfill the required criteria
are eligible for a 1 year extension based on retirement.

Prerequisite are:

Valid Non-O visa without overstay or valid extension.
Up to date address registration.

Required papers:

Completely filled in TM 7 form.       Click for to download TM7

Copies from following passport pages:

Detail page
Current visa/extension
Last 3 extensions. (If applicable)
Last entry stamp
TM6 departure card
Passport size picture.

Proof of financial status either:

Letter from Embassy/Consul Certifying over THB 65000 month. (valid 6 months),
Supporting documents of the income may be requested by the immigration officer.
Copy bank book name page. OR
Copy Thai bank book name page and last 2/3 months transactions.
Signed and stamped bank letter AND Signed and stamped bank statement showing the money for the required period.
( 2 months first time, 3 months for consecutive extensions and both letters maximum 7 days old ) OR
Combination of both which combined is at least THB 800.00 a year.

Picture of applicant in front of the house with house number clearly visible.

Extension application can be submitted within the last 30 days of the current visa/extension.
If joined account is used (with marriage certificate) only 50% of balance is used.
Only saving or fixed accounts where the money is at any time available are accepted.

Please go to room 103 for your retirement extension.

Price for the extension is THB 1900

 

Good Luck.

[KhunBENQ]

Only a few subtle details are remarkable:

 

Shared account which might not be accepted at other immigrations at all.

 

Bank statements up to 7 days old. Some immigrations require same day(!).

At least same day book update.

 

Copy of last 3 extensions (if available) is not required everywhere.

Never been asked for.

 

39 minutes ago, nasa123 said:

Picture of applicant in front of the house with house number clearly visible.

Not required for retirement extension at most other immigrations.

 

39 minutes ago, nasa123 said:

Combination of both which combined is at least THB 800.00 a year.

Typo: 800000 of course (in Thai standard it would write 800,000).

 

The " Supporting documents " might open the route to all kind of harassment?

 

Source, did you find the text directly at Phuket immigration?

[KarenBravo]

I have heard that the picture is now definitely required at Phuket immigration for an extension based on retirement.

This was also confirmed by a visa agent.

[DrDave]

Thanks for posting this. I'm about to change from a marriage extension to a retirement extension, and haven't kept up with the retirement requirements.

My extension is always due around Songkran, which is a major hassle for marriage extensions which take more than the usual 30 days processing time in Bangkok over the holidays.

[Psimbo]

3 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Only a few subtle details are remarkable:

 

Shared account which might not be accepted at other immigrations at all.

 

Bank statements up to 7 days old. Some immigrations require same day(!).

At least same day book update.

 

Copy of last 3 extensions (if available) is not required everywhere.

Never been asked for.

 

Not required for retirement extension at most other immigrations.

 

Typo: 800000 of course (in Thai standard it would write 800,000).

 

The " Supporting documents " might open the route to all kind of harassment?

 

Source, did you find the text directly at Phuket immigration?

Thanks for that but this thread is about PHUKET, what happens where you are is irrelevant.

 

Why people need to post about what happens elsewhere on a Phuket specific thread baffles me. 

[nasa123]

15 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Only a few subtle details are remarkable:

 

Shared account which might not be accepted at other immigrations at all.

 

Bank statements up to 7 days old. Some immigrations require same day(!).

At least same day book update.

 

Copy of last 3 extensions (if available) is not required everywhere.

Never been asked for.

 

Not required for retirement extension at most other immigrations.

 

Typo: 800000 of course (in Thai standard it would write 800,000).

 

The " Supporting documents " might open the route to all kind of harassment?

 

Source, did you find the text directly at Phuket immigration?

I was and renewed my retierment last week, and if you don`t have all this paper and this picture of you and the house number. Arrange all these papers or you'll get no retierment in Immigration in Phuket, I can promise you that.

[nasa123]

Just now, nasa123 said:

I was and renewed my retierment last week, and if you don`t have all this paper and this picture of you and the house number. Arrange all these papers or you'll get no retierment in Immigration in Phuket, I can promise you that.

 

15 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Only a few subtle details are remarkable:

 

Shared account which might not be accepted at other immigrations at all.

 

Bank statements up to 7 days old. Some immigrations require same day(!).

At least same day book update.

 

Copy of last 3 extensions (if available) is not required everywhere.

Never been asked for.

 

Not required for retirement extension at most other immigrations.

 

Typo: 800000 of course (in Thai standard it would write 800,000).

 

The " Supporting documents " might open the route to all kind of harassment?

 

Source, did you find the text directly at Phuket immigration?

I was and renewed my retierment last week, and if you don`t have all this paper and this picture of you and the house number. Arrange all these papers or you'll get no retierment in Immigration in Phuket, I can promise you that.

[masuk]

17 hours ago, KhunBENQ said:

Only a few subtle details are remarkable:

 

Shared account which might not be accepted at other immigrations at all.

 

Bank statements up to 7 days old. Some immigrations require same day(!).

At least same day book update.

 

Copy of last 3 extensions (if available) is not required everywhere.

Never been asked for.

 

Not required for retirement extension at most other immigrations.

 

Typo: 800000 of course (in Thai standard it would write 800,000).

 

The " Supporting documents " might open the route to all kind of harassment?

 

Source, did you find the text directly at Phuket immigration?

800,000 is the correct way for System Internationale  (SI)  aka the metric system.

[phuketrichard]

15 hours ago, KarenBravo said:

I have heard that the picture is now definitely required at Phuket immigration for an extension based on retirement.

This was also confirmed by a visa agent.

i was told it is asked for as well;

friend did his , he didn't have photo, they asked him to bring photo next day when he went to pick up his passport

so he took a photo, went to pick up passport,  they did not ask for photo....   LOL

[hkt83100]

17 hours ago, KarenBravo said:

I have heard that the picture is now definitely required at Phuket immigration for an extension based on retirement.

This was also confirmed by a visa agent.

I can confirm this. I did my extension on Boxing Day 2016, my picture was a black and white printout on my Laserprinter, two pictures placed on a DIN A4 sized page. A friend handed two color pictures (6" by 4")a few days later, which were rejected until he glued them on a A4 size page. A printout of Google Maps of the location of my house was not required, but put a smile on the face of the officer.

[nasa123]

3 hours ago, masuk said:

800,000 is the correct way for System Internationale  (SI)  aka the metric system.

 

3 hours ago, masuk said:

800,000 is the correct way for System Internationale  (SI)  aka the metric system.

This it`s in Phuket.

 

[Dan5]

22 hours ago, DrDave said:

Thanks for posting this. I'm about to change from a marriage extension to a retirement extension, and haven't kept up with the retirement requirements.

My extension is always due around Songkran, which is a major hassle for marriage extensions which take more than the usual 30 days processing time in Bangkok over the holidays.

30 day processing?  I live in Bangkok and I've always gotten my extension the same day. But it's a retirement extension.

[DrDave]

1 hour ago, Dan5 said:

30 day processing?  I live in Bangkok and I've always gotten my extension the same day. But it's a retirement extension.

The processing for an extension based upon marriage is very different from one based upon retirement.

 

No matter where you submit your application, the local Immigration office will send all of your paperwork to Bangkok for additional checking and authorization. This normally takes 30 days, and it's why you receive a 30 day "under consideration" stamp in your passport when you submit your application. You'll be asked to return in 30 days to receive your official 1 year extension stamp. 

After 30 days, if they have not yet received the paperwork from Bangkok, you'll be asked to return in another week or so. This is what typically happens when you submit your application during the last week of March, or the 1st week of April - the paperwork is held up in Bangkok for an extra 1-2 weeks due to the Songkran holiday.

[nasa123]

2 hours ago, Dan5 said:

30 day processing?  I live in Bangkok and I've always gotten my extension the same day. But it's a retirement extension.

Yes my friend, 50 year + and have 65.000 Bath in Pension or you can have like 400.000Bath in the Bank, but <deleted> that. If you don`t have the 65.000 Bath every mount go to Laos or Vietnam that LOVE you. 

[Valentine]

Last extension by marriage required photos inside & outside including with wife. I printed them myself in b & w & was told to make colour copies at a photo shop.

[nasa123]

8 hours ago, Valentine said:

Last extension by marriage required photos inside & outside including with wife. I printed them myself in b & w & was told to make colour copies at a photo shop.

That`?s right Valentine.

[Jimi007]

On 3/23/2017 at 7:20 PM, nasa123 said:

Yes my friend, 50 year + and have 65.000 Bath in Pension or you can have like 400.000Bath in the Bank, but <deleted> that. If you don`t have the 65.000 Bath every mount go to Laos or Vietnam that LOVE you. 

Number one: Thai currency is called Baht, not Bath! And as said; Thailand uses a comma, not a period to separate thousands from hundreds. The correct amount you need to have in a personal Thai bank account, with a letter from the bank confirming that amount has been seasoned in that account, is 800,000 Baht along with copies of your bank book for retirement extension or a letter from your Embassy stating an equivalent monthly income from your country (67,000 Baht) or a combination of your bank account statement and income letter from your Embassy equaling a total of 800,000 Baht a year. By the way 400,000 is the amount you must have for a marriage extension, not a retirement extension.

[PhuketSarah]

On 3/22/2017 at 7:27 PM, Psimbo said:

Thanks for that but this thread is about PHUKET, what happens where you are is irrelevant.

 

Why people need to post about what happens elsewhere on a Phuket specific thread baffles me. 

That supporting docs needed is worrying. Seems they can apply whatever they wish to individuals.  It is not on the doc I was given  and since this doc is missing the " or" between 3 and 4... It occurs to me one might need 800,000 AND proof of 65,000 / month  

( Also Note the muddy printing  end of # 3 current account .....for the first year.  Good grief ) 

 

Also  from this doc obtained recently, House registration OR Tenant agreement and man I had a lot of hassle re the TM 90  and needing corporate stamps and  shareholder lists 

[skatewash]

11 minutes ago, PhuketSarah said:

That supporting docs needed is worrying. Seems they can apply whatever they wish to individuals.  It is not on the doc I was given  and since this doc is missing the " or" between 3 and 4... It occurs to me one might need 800,000 AND proof of 65,000 / month  

( Also Note the muddy printing  end of # 3 current account .....for the first year.  Good grief ) 

 

Also  from this doc obtained recently, House registration OR Tenant agreement and man I had a lot of hassle re the TM 90  and needing corporate stamps and  shareholder lists 

Regarding the handwritten question under Required Documents, 2:  Passport and certified copy:
"Certified by whom?"

Certified by you in the form of your signature written on each page of the copy.

In general, when you supply a copy of a document to be given to immigration you must sign the copy with your signature as a guarantee that it is a valid copy of the original.

[Jimi007]

2 minutes ago, PhuketSarah said:

That supporting docs needed is worrying. Seems they can apply whatever they wish to individuals.  It is not on the doc I was given  and since this doc is missing the " or" between 3 and 4... It occurs to me one might need 800,000 AND proof of 65,000 / month  

( Also Note the muddy printing  end of # 3 current account .....for the first year.  Good grief ) 

 

Also  from this doc obtained recently, House registration OR Tenant agreement and man I had a lot of hassle re the TM 90  and needing corporate stamps and  shareholder lists 

You are making things more difficult than they are. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Total combination of 800,000 Baht, income and saving. You went to the US Embassy outreach right? Did you get an earnings statement from them for at least 65,000 (about $2,000 US) a month or a lesser amount if you have savings that would equal 800K ? If not, you'll have to wait until they come back or make a trip to the Embassy. That's what is required to verify your income. They may want to look at your bankbook to see if you had deposits in that amount monthly. Didn't ask me, never have, the income certificate from the US Embassy is all they ever required... 

[Psimbo]

11 minutes ago, skatewash said:

Regarding the handwritten question under Required Documents, 2:  Passport and certified copy:
"Certified by whom?"

Certified by you in the form of your signature written on each page of the copy.

In general, when you supply a copy of a document to be given to immigration you must sign the copy with your signature as a guarantee that it is a valid copy of the original.

Exactly-if you notice, they stamp over the signature on each page of your documentation thereby certifying it.

 

You certainly seem to be making a mountain out of a molehill Phuketsarah. It took me 8 minutes to submit and get receipt.

 

Go by the small information slip provided by the volunteers (and the information on the other thread)- it is up to date.

[PhuketSarah]

10 minutes ago, Jimi007 said:

You are making things more difficult than they are. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Total combination of 800,000 Baht, income and saving. You went to the US Embassy outreach right? Did you get an earnings statement from them for at least 65,000 (about $2,000 US) a month or a lesser amount if you have savings that would equal 800K ? If not, you'll have to wait until they come back or make a trip to the Embassy. That's what is required to verify your income. They may want to look at your bankbook to see if you had deposits in that amount monthly. Didn't ask me, never have, the income certificate from the US Embassy is all they ever required... 

 But that is not what the form states, on  3 and from posts above, they can make up whatever requirement they want, like I need 800, 000 in the bank 

 

 

And about the certified, what does that mean in most places? Notary, not your signature  and now from a thread  in the Visa forum seems some are wanting a MFA certification on that Outreach Affidavit.

 

 It's a lot of maybes and omitted punctuation and blurry printing and moody officials and it's in consulate, immigration  and border staff.

Who can make a life when you don't know if you are going to be welcome?  I'm so glad I rented, I almost bought which seems would have been   BIG Mistake 

 

[PhuketSarah]

15 minutes ago, Psimbo said:

Exactly-if you notice, they stamp over the signature on each page of your documentation thereby certifying it.

 

You certainly seem to be making a mountain out of a molehill Phuketsarah. It took me 8 minutes to submit and get receipt.

 

Go by the small information slip provided by the volunteers (and the information on the other thread)- it is up to date.

That paper is  only a few weeks old and I got it from room 103, so  you're telling me  room 103 staff are giving out erred info? Terrific. 

 

 As for knowing that certification  only means my signature, well maybe they need to use the term  your signature I would have asked,  after all that's why I went, but the officer needed to get back to   his TV show  and was already had his ears back  by my queries about missing text.. 

Edited August 6, 2017 by PhuketSarah

[Jimi007]

2 minutes ago, PhuketSarah said:

 But that is not what the form states, on  3 and from posts above, they can make up whatever requirement they want, like I need 800, 000 in the bank 

 

 

And about the certified, what does that mean in most places? Notary, not your signature  and now from a thread  in the Visa forum seems some are wanting a MFA certification on that Outreach Affidavit.

 

 It's a lot of maybes and omitted punctuation and blurry printing and moody officials and it's in consulate, immigration  and border staff.

Who can make a life when you don't know if you are going to be welcome?  I'm so glad I rented, I almost bought which seems would have been   BIG Mistake 

 

Once again: THE TOTAL IS 800K BAHT!!! Income of 65K or 800K in the bank or a combination! Just get an income letter from the US Embassy for at least $2K US and you're done! It's what I've used for the past 11 year and never a problem! Sounds like you should hire an agent!

[PhuketSarah]

33 minutes ago, skatewash said:

Regarding the handwritten question under Required Documents, 2:  Passport and certified copy:
"Certified by whom?"

Certified by you in the form of your signature written on each page of the copy.

In general, when you supply a copy of a document to be given to immigration you must sign the copy with your signature as a guarantee that it is a valid copy of the original.

Thank you  yes I've now realized in Thai-Bureau-lish, certified means I scribble on it. Silly me to think it meant something.... meaningful.

[PhuketSarah]

2 minutes ago, Jimi007 said:

Once again: THE TOTAL IS 800K BAHT!!! Income of 65K or 800K in the bank or a combination! Just get an income letter from the US Embassy for at least $2K US and you're done! It's what I've used for the past 11 year and never a problem! Sounds like you should hire an agent!

And once again that's not on the paper room 103 gave me.  You are seriously missing the entire premise - THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT 

[stevenl]

5 minutes ago, PhuketSarah said:

And once again that's not on the paper room 103 gave me.  You are seriously missing the entire premise - THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT 

To a certain extend, yes, but in real life this whole process is relatively straight forward. You are making your life much more difficult than need be.

 

So far in all threads you have posted about this you have at least 10 people giving you all information, but you keep banging and banging. Your head must hurt by now, needlessly.

Edited August 6, 2017 by stevenl

[Jimi007]

3 minutes ago, PhuketSarah said:

And once again that's not on the paper room 103 gave me.  You are seriously missing the entire premise - THEY DO WHAT THEY WANT 

You are seriously misguided and read to much into it! I was in and out in 10 minutes, came back after 1 PM the next day, that took maybe 2 minutes. Everyone but you has done it and knows what we did. Follow our advice or don't. As they say up to you!

[PhuketSarah]

On 3/23/2017 at 9:17 AM, phuketrichard said:

i was told it is asked for as well;

friend did his , he didn't have photo, they asked him to bring photo next day when he went to pick up his passport

so he took a photo, went to pick up passport,  they did not ask for photo....   LOL

 LOL ?  More like Arghhhh... thanks for making me hunt for  a copy shop  for nothing.

[PhuketSarah]

1 minute ago, Jimi007 said:

You are seriously misguided and read to much into it! I was in and out in 10 minutes, came back after 1 PM the next day, that took maybe 2 minutes. Everyone but you has done it and knows what we did. Follow our advice or don't. As they say up to you!

If I'm misguided, it's from the IO own requirement sheet.  And I am reading the advice here, about the  5 or 6 questions I had from the requirement sheet. Now I know I O can ask for any supporting docs they want,  I can be sent on a MFA goose chase while IO  can still can decide  any way they want, and the certified means I scribble on a sheet of paper.

Still not clear on the  bank statement validity period