Borzandy Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 16 hours ago, darksidedog said: No witnesses, so it is one piece of circumstantial DNA, a money transfer and the testimony of a cleaning lady who worked in his Condo complex. I suspect this will be going to the Appeal Court. To be satisfied of guilt beyond all reasonable doubt, I would have liked to have seen something a bit more concrete. Agreed. When you know the Thai incompetence, you never be sure about any court judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 It's incredible..... comments focus on a convicted criminal & his behaviour/appearance. No mention of fact that he took the life of David Bernat in a gruesome act, then disposed of his body in a grizzly premediated way. Justice served & RIP David Bernat.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceN Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 22 hours ago, Nasrullah said: You do still believe in innocent until proven otherwise? He is a convicted murderer. That is one kind of proof. You may doubt the verdict, or the integrity of the Thai justice system, but he has been found guilty in court. "Innocent until proven guilty" simply doesn't apply at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luk AJ Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 No witnesses, so it is one piece of circumstantial DNA, a money transfer and the testimony of a cleaning lady who worked in his Condo complex. I suspect this will be going to the Appeal Court. To be satisfied of guilt beyond all reasonable doubt, I would have liked to have seen something a bit more concrete.Such as? Missing finger in his stomach?Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silent Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 18 hours ago, Cranky said: Tattoos !!! Guilty beyond doubt. Lock up everyone with a tattoo, (no more tarts in Pattaya then) and release everyone in the pokey with no tattoos. Great society that'll produce. Let's just say that in some cases based only on circumstantial evidence of what many consider the kind of crime only a seriously demented person would even take part in, an apparent extreme level of tattooing doesn't help portray the image of someone not capable of mutilating someone else's body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arithai12 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 18 hours ago, JerryinTH said: My hairdresser and barber has tattoos from head to toe and works in a fancy salon in Central Embassy. Cut and shave will cost you around 2,000 baht. I consider this an honest and respectable job. Not like he is issuing traffic tickets or something. off topic, I am jealous of your hair if it requires 2000THB to cut. Mine, 80Baht and 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) Being convicted by Thai DNA evidence is as reliable as a girl in soi 6 telling you she has been faithful to you for a years absence. And besides, after watching "Prison Break' I think he has a cunning escape plan !! Edited April 22, 2017 by RichardColeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khon Kaen Dave Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 22 hours ago, SiamBeast said: I don't want to judge anyone, but coming to court covered in tattoos when you're the defendent in a criminal case is probably a bad idea. I had a girlfriend, back in my former life. She had a few tats but she wasn't a killer. The one tat i liked best, was where she had the letter 'B' tatted on one bum cheek, and the letter 'B' tatted on the other. When she bent over, it spelled 'BOB' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 22 hours ago, SiamBeast said: I don't want to judge anyone, but coming to court covered in tattoos when you're the defendent in a criminal case is probably a bad idea. It's a bad idea getting them in the first place, people deliberately disfiguring thereselves?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexall Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 18 hours ago, JerryinTH said: My hairdresser and barber has tattoos from head to toe and works in a fancy salon in Central Embassy. Cut and shave will cost you around 2,000 baht. I consider this an honest and respectable job. Not like he is issuing traffic tickets or something. You think B2,000 for a haircut is "honest" and "respectable." ??? He ought to get the death penalty for over-charging! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 19 hours ago, ThaiWai said: He's now been convicted and sentenced to death. Lemme guess now it was a kangaroo court, right? You hate authority so much you feel nothing for the victim and hope the accused is set free. Check yourself. A world without authority is a world you don't want. Depends on what kind of authority, some people make and change rules because they just love the authority, and impressing the people working under him/her. It happens regularly in IMOs and banks etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexall Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 He ought to be prosecuted and convicted for his crimes, if the accusations are indeed true. He ought not be prosecuted and convicted for tattoos. However, as a practical matter, there is a reason lawyers clean their defendants up, dress them in a business suit in order to make them appear more mainstream and respectable. Peeps consciously or unconsciously associate tattoos with crime, and not entirely without a basis for that. Tattoos sometimes represent a gang affiliation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 18 hours ago, saakura said: A lot of people associate tattos with mafia type bad guys and prostitues, like islam and terror. If you take away the "prostitutes" it would also apply to people with facial hair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 looks well fed clean , shame he can not grasp concept of humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 17 hours ago, AGareth2 said: don't you know all people with tattoos are shady characters. If they are absolutely covered in them, they probably are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wake Up Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 19 hours ago, darksidedog said: No witnesses, so it is one piece of circumstantial DNA, a money transfer and the testimony of a cleaning lady who worked in his Condo complex. I suspect this will be going to the Appeal Court. To be satisfied of guilt beyond all reasonable doubt, I would have liked to have seen something a bit more concrete. Most people kill one on one without witnesses. Both victim and criminal were seen going into his condo and then crimimal left alone with two big black bags. Blood DNA in criminals condo matched the victim. Criminal transferred money after the death from the victims bank account to his account. Criminal lied about his behavior and being with the victim. Appeal all you want this man deserves psychiatric incarceration or life in prison or the death penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustdevil Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) "Forgive them, for they know not what they do." The man possibly think he's Christ on the way to crucifixion and smiling about it. Has he had a psychiatric evaluation? Edited April 22, 2017 by Dustdevil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lungnorm Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 23 hours ago, mercman24 said: your first 6 words said it all about your judgmental attitude.l He does not look like a Bikie!!!! Tatts are fashion these days, not like in your day 3-4 generations ago. Get with the times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 23 hours ago, rainwater said: Why are you trying to tell people what they should believe It looks more like a question than an instruction. Unlike you, he did use punctuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 47 minutes ago, rexall said: You think B2,000 for a haircut is "honest" and "respectable." ??? He ought to get the death penalty for over-charging! I used to pay around B2,000 in the eighties back in the UK for a haircut I would happily pay more now for a "cut & blow" Sadly I have no hair now! Now no" cut" only................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 (edited) 20 hours ago, Cranky said: Tattoos !!! Guilty beyond doubt. Lock up everyone with a tattoo, (no more tarts in Pattaya then) and release everyone in the pokey with no tattoos. Great society that'll produce. Screwed blued and tattooed. Edited April 22, 2017 by elgordo38 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Has anyone on here ever received a tato 1 hour ago, Dustdevil said: "Forgive them, for they know not what they do." The man possibly think he's Christ on the way to crucifixion and smiling about it. Has he had a psychiatric evaluation? He should have one. Maybe his hero was Jeffrey Dahmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgordo38 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Khon Kaen Dave said: I had a girlfriend, back in my former life. She had a few tats but she wasn't a killer. The one tat i liked best, was where she had the letter 'B' tatted on one bum cheek, and the letter 'B' tatted on the other. When she bent over, it spelled 'BOB' Bobs your uncle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 21 hours ago, soalbundy said: A lot What a nonsense.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobvarming Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 On 2017-04-21 at 11:50 AM, Nasrullah said: You do still believe in innocent until proven otherwise? I guess he's guilty now... at least according to ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujayujay Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 18 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Nice to see that he's apparently a good Bible-reading type guy.... Except, the photo of his hand shows "Lucas", not "Luke." You are not very clever and confuse many things here. Bible not written in english......got it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 20 hours ago, farang95 said: must admit ....it's scary....he doesnt look like a killer...... i mean the picture make him look good.....innocent or not...... psychopath or not..... you can never trust anyone for real.... all the people who around you ..could decide ..for a reason or no reason to end you savagely ....... So be careful and watch your back ..... Chok dee all :) I must agree he looks better in this pic. I think he is a psychopath as other photos of him ,he looked very sick. One thing that psychopath's do is never admit guilt , they can show no empathy and usually are highly intelligent. Their brains are hard wired, and they can not display empathy and many other feelings. The only different type of psychopaths are cheese cake psychopath's Like Swiss cheese they have pathways that allow a little empathy through. The trouble with this world if that these people run the world, they are a completely different animal to a normal honest person. The powers that be know this , they know that they can manipulate the poor as they will usually pay their bills and be honest.. Tats don't make any difference to this nutter tat or know tats he was doomed by the evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beats56 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Why do they.have a death penalty here ?.. Just call it life sentence which what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janhkt Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 20 hours ago, hansnl said: You really have no idea? Old world thinking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prbkk Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 59 minutes ago, CGW said: I used to pay around B2,000 in the eighties back in the UK for a haircut I would happily pay more now for a "cut & blow" Sadly I have no hair now! Now no" cut" only................. Well, it used to cost about that to go to Sassoon's back in the late 60s/early seventies, a ridiculous sum really, particularly to end up looking no better than a (very bad) drag version of Dusty Springfield or Jane Fonda. Men's hair was not the best thing about the 60s. I save a particularly savage wrath for whoever dares to drag out those snaps today. Sorry for being off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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