Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?

[ilostmypassword]

1 hour ago, Global Guy said:

Putin bought Trump? Wow, that was a mainstream media puppet response if I ever read one. So how exactly did Putin buy this billionaire? And what exact crime did Trump commit? Hillary lost, get over it already. You guys going to whine for four years? 

Money laundering.

[iReason]

Trump aides averted more detailed letter justifying Comey firing

 

"The decision to let the former FBI director go was made the weekend of May 6 and 7 at the president's Bedminster country club, according to people familiar with events."

 

"A draft letter from President Donald Trump justifying the firing of FBI Director James Comey and now reported to be in the hands of Special Counsel Robert Mueller was substantially watered down before Trump dismissed Comey in May, according to people familiar with the events."

 

"While Trump insisted on going forward with the firing, McGahn did manage to get him not to send the draft letter that took Comey to task in greater detail."

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/01/trump-aides-letter-fbi-comey-firing-242262

[iReason]

Mueller Has Early Draft of Trump Letter Giving Reasons for Firing Comey

 

"WASHINGTON — The special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, has obtained a letter drafted by President Trump and a top political aide that offered an unvarnished view of Mr. Trump’s thinking in the days before the president fired the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey."

 

"The circumstances and reasons for the firing are believed to be a significant element of Mr. Mueller’s investigation, which includes whether Mr. Trump obstructed justice by firing Mr. Comey."

 

"The letter, drafted in May, was met with opposition from Donald F. McGahn II, the White House counsel, who believed that its angry, meandering tone was problematic, according to interviews with a dozen administration officials and others briefed on the matter."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/trump-comey-firing-letter.html?

[ELVIS123456]

1 hour ago, simple1 said:

Going back to the late 1980's Trump's bid to operate a casino in Sydney, Australia was denied as the Australian background checks identified business transactions with US based mafia. For whatever reason info did not stop his activities in the US and elsewhere. One can now assume with a degree of certainty the current investigations will uncover sufficient evidence of criminality to upset Trump's apple cart.

What a load of rubbish mate. There were 4 bids for the casino and 3 were questioned by the NSW Police because they had links to US Casinos which were at that time supposed to be mafia infiltrated. The winning bid was Packer's (Aussie) and if you know the Packer story, they had much of the NSW Police and the NSW Govt under their 'influence'.  3 were overseas consortiums and the Aussie (corrupt) battler won, by getting them canned.  There was never any evidence, it was all hearsay and innuendo - all to look after their Packer 'mates'.  To claim that Trump was aligned with the Mafia is totally false and something I wouldnt expect even CNN or MSNBC or NYT or WAPO to do. 

 

[simple1]

5 minutes ago, ELVIS123456 said:

What a load of rubbish mate. There were 4 bids for the casino and 3 were questioned by the NSW Police because they had links to US Casinos which were at that time supposed to be mafia infiltrated. The winning bid was Packer's (Aussie) and if you know the Packer story, they had much of the NSW Police and the NSW Govt under their 'influence'.  3 were overseas consortiums and the Aussie (corrupt) battler won, by getting them canned.  There was never any evidence, it was all hearsay and innuendo - all to look after their Packer 'mates'.  To claim that Trump was aligned with the Mafia is totally false and something I wouldnt expect even CNN or MSNBC or NYT or WAPO to do. 

 

As soon as someone posts accusations of false news and has a record of right of centre posts, you just know it's blah, blah, blah....

 

Mob links killed Trump's casino bid.

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/investigations/trumps-bid-for-sydney-casino-killed-off-by-mob-connections/news-story/65a0e5289cc924722f988bdca4b01e9b

Edited September 2, 2017 by simple1

[Silurian]

Here is a good long read explaining the Russian and Putin connection to Donny John. Maybe this will help to explain things.

 

Trump’s Real Campaign

The latest Trump Tower Moscow revelations put Trump’s flattery of Putin in a disturbing new light.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2017/08/trump_s_long_campaign_to_make_trump_tower_moscow_happen.html

 

[Meljames]

7 minutes ago, ELVIS123456 said:

 To claim that Trump was aligned with the Mafia is totally false and something I wouldnt expect even CNN or MSNBC or NYT or WAPO to do. 

Quote

 

Donald Trump's 'mafia connections' blocked his bid to open Sydney casino 30 years ago

 

"Atlantic City would be a dubious model for Sydney and in our judgment, the Trump mafia connections should exclude the Kern/Trump consortium," a summary of the NSW police board's report concluded on May 4, 1987.

 

The NSW government's concerns regarding Trump's joint venture were not made public at the at the time. However, under rules which declassify NSW cabinet papers, summaries of several reports on the Kern/Trump joint bid were reported in The Australian on Wednesday.

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/16/trump-mafia-connections-blocked-bid-to-open-sydney-casino-30-years-ago.html

 

 

Been all over the news past few days. No big surprise.

Edited September 2, 2017 by Meljames

[Skywalker69]

1 hour ago, Global Guy said:

Why not post it now? No one seems to be able to produce any evidence for what they accuse of. Was it a funding issue? You know, like how all the middle eastern countries gave money to the Clinton Foundation?

 

Saudis, UAE pledge $100 million to Ivanka Trump-proposed fund

 

Just two days into President Donald Trump debut foreign trip, a member of his inner-circle has already reaped benefits to the tune of $100 million.

In a sunlit ballroom Sunday morning at the Tuwaiq Palace in Saudi Arabia, Ivanka Trump's proposed Women Entrepreneurs Fund -- a concept she first shared during her own inaugural international trip as first daughter last month to Berlin, Germany -- was promised a combined $100 million by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates specifically to help women in the Middle East.

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/21/politics/saudi-pledge-trump-women/index.html

 

-Now can we get back to the subject?

[MRTELLYOUSTRAIGHT]

 

[Thakkar]

1 hour ago, Andaman Al said:

Complete garbage.

 and NOT complete garbage.................Ivanka Trump takes 100 M USD from Saudi and UAE

 

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ivanka-trump-fund-takes-100m-saudi-arabia-uae-article-1.3183690

 

This thread is nothing to do with Clinton and anything Clinton has done is not an excuse for the orange crook. Trump has more dirt than the New York City garbage dump land fill and it will all come out. I predict he will end up doing the perp walk within 18 months. Bernie Madoff will be cleaning out the cell next to him right now for Trump's arrival.  

 

When the courts try him and find him guilty for mafia money connections, grand fraud, tax evasion and money laundering on an international scale will you say 'jail him' or 'but Clinton had his sperm on an interns dress and nothing happened to him'? Clintons peers including the entire Republican membership of both houses chose NOT to impeach. The investigations in to  HR Clintons emails led by Republican committee's found NOTHING in either the email case or Benghazi despite 4 investigations and more money spent on those investigations than into 9/11. Are we saying the Republican led investigations were led by incompetent fools? Should Trey Gowdy be unceremoniously sacked from Government for culpable negligence? Or was there NOTHING THERE? you can't have it both ways.

 

Quit with the Clinton talk AND Obama talk. Trump wanted the Presidency and from now on he is responsible AND accountable for HIS OWN actions, both present and past.

 

Lock him up!

[Skywalker69]

36 minutes ago, MRTELLYOUSTRAIGHT said:

 

Talk about dumb people!

 

 

[ilostmypassword]

1 hour ago, MRTELLYOUSTRAIGHT said:

 

If I were you, I'd stick to posting only images, too.

[EvenSteven]

4 hours ago, Global Guy said:

You won't produce anything to back up your statement. All I'm asking is something to support your accusation. I'm open to discussion.

 

What crimes were committed?

Obstruction of justice for starters.  The investigation is on-going and going as it should, despite all the attempts to obstruct it.from Trump.

[ELVIS123456]

12 hours ago, simple1 said:

As soon as someone posts accusations of false news and has a record of right of centre posts, you just know it's blah, blah, blah....

 

Mob links killed Trump's casino bid.

 

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/investigations/trumps-bid-for-sydney-casino-killed-off-by-mob-connections/news-story/65a0e5289cc924722f988bdca4b01e9b

As soon as someone posts accusations of fake news and has a record of liberal left-of-lenin posts, you just know it's blah, blah, blah....

 

Quote:  " At the time, the state treasurer, Ken Booth, said he had received reports on the bids from the police board, the state’s Treasury, the Darling Harbour Authority, and an independent financial consultant.  “I wish to inform honourable members that in light of these reports the government has decided to eliminate three tenderers from further consideration,” Booth told the state parliament. “These are the HKMS consortium, the Federal-Sabemo consortium and the Kern-Trump consortium.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/16/trumps-bid-for-sydney-casino-30-years-ago-rejected-due-to-mafia-connections

 

As any of the few rational objective thinkers on TV will know or understand, the decision to cancel all three bids in 1987 was because of political corruption and influences. There was no police investigation (in AUS or USA), it was all conjecture about mafia influences in casinos, as an excuse to get rid of the 3 'better' bids, in favour of the supported bid. However, that bid too failed when public concerns over the corruption came to light - driven by the Packer media empire. 

 

I lived in Sydney at that time and everyone knew that the Packers wanted the casino, and that the NSW Govt was corrupt. The winning NSW casino owner (Tabcorp - NSW Govt) didnt get announced until 1994 after 7 more years of corruption and dirty deals. But Packer got there in the end and created Star Casino.

 

For those that dont know, the Packer family are an extremely wealthy and 'influential' family in Aust, especially in NSW were they live.  Quote from Google Search:  "The 2008 BRW Rich 200 listed Packer as the third richest person in Australia with a personal wealth of A$6.1 billion. That was the first time in 21 years that a member of the Packer family had not topped the list."

 

Oh, but don't let the truth get in the way of more unfounded Trump hysteria and criticism will you mate.  Liberal bandwagon rolling - gotta get on it. Go right ahead - but here's a tip - its heading for the cliff mate. Trump will be POTUS until 2020 - get over it - and try to get on with it.

 

By the way, how are those charges of rape, molestation and sexual assault going against Trump? Oh, that's right, they were all fake news made up with the support of the Dems and MSM.  Just like your rubbish story about mafia, the MSM rubbish about Russia, etc etc etc.

 

[ELVIS123456]

12 hours ago, Meljames said:

 

Been all over the news past few days. No big surprise.

Read the article written in an unbiased manner byu the Guardian in my last post.

 

Read MSNBC or CNN etc, and it is usually written with bias - against Trump.

 

If Trump walked on water, they would accuse him of refusing to swim with normal people.

 

[Meljames]

1 minute ago, ELVIS123456 said:

Read the article written in an unbiased manner byu the Guardian in my last post.

 

 

i dud. 

[RobFord]

Read the article written in an unbiased manner byu the Guardian in my last post.
 
Read MSNBC or CNN etc, and it is usually written with bias - against Trump.
 
If Trump walked on water, they would accuse him of refusing to swim with normal people.
 

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[simple1]

2 hours ago, ELVIS123456 said:

As soon as someone posts accusations of fake news and has a record of liberal left-of-lenin posts, you just know it's blah, blah, blah....

 

Quote:  " At the time, the state treasurer, Ken Booth, said he had received reports on the bids from the police board, the state’s Treasury, the Darling Harbour Authority, and an independent financial consultant.  “I wish to inform honourable members that in light of these reports the government has decided to eliminate three tenderers from further consideration,” Booth told the state parliament. “These are the HKMS consortium, the Federal-Sabemo consortium and the Kern-Trump consortium.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/16/trumps-bid-for-sydney-casino-30-years-ago-rejected-due-to-mafia-connections

 

As any of the few rational objective thinkers on TV will know or understand, the decision to cancel all three bids in 1987 was because of political corruption and influences. There was no police investigation (in AUS or USA), it was all conjecture about mafia influences in casinos, as an excuse to get rid of the 3 'better' bids, in favour of the supported bid. However, that bid too failed when public concerns over the corruption came to light - driven by the Packer media empire. 

 

I lived in Sydney at that time and everyone knew that the Packers wanted the casino, and that the NSW Govt was corrupt. The winning NSW casino owner (Tabcorp - NSW Govt) didnt get announced until 1994 after 7 more years of corruption and dirty deals. But Packer got there in the end and created Star Casino.

 

For those that dont know, the Packer family are an extremely wealthy and 'influential' family in Aust, especially in NSW were they live.  Quote from Google Search:  "The 2008 BRW Rich 200 listed Packer as the third richest person in Australia with a personal wealth of A$6.1 billion. That was the first time in 21 years that a member of the Packer family had not topped the list."

 

Oh, but don't let the truth get in the way of more unfounded Trump hysteria and criticism will you mate.  Liberal bandwagon rolling - gotta get on it. Go right ahead - but here's a tip - its heading for the cliff mate. Trump will be POTUS until 2020 - get over it - and try to get on with it.

 

By the way, how are those charges of rape, molestation and sexual assault going against Trump? Oh, that's right, they were all fake news made up with the support of the Dems and MSM.  Just like your rubbish story about mafia, the MSM rubbish about Russia, etc etc etc.

 

 

2 hours ago, ELVIS123456 said:

As soon as someone posts accusations of fake news and has a record of liberal left-of-lenin posts, you just know it's blah, blah, blah....

 

Quote:  " At the time, the state treasurer, Ken Booth, said he had received reports on the bids from the police board, the state’s Treasury, the Darling Harbour Authority, and an independent financial consultant.  “I wish to inform honourable members that in light of these reports the government has decided to eliminate three tenderers from further consideration,” Booth told the state parliament. “These are the HKMS consortium, the Federal-Sabemo consortium and the Kern-Trump consortium.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/16/trumps-bid-for-sydney-casino-30-years-ago-rejected-due-to-mafia-connections

 

As any of the few rational objective thinkers on TV will know or understand, the decision to cancel all three bids in 1987 was because of political corruption and influences. There was no police investigation (in AUS or USA), it was all conjecture about mafia influences in casinos, as an excuse to get rid of the 3 'better' bids, in favour of the supported bid. However, that bid too failed when public concerns over the corruption came to light - driven by the Packer media empire. 

 

I lived in Sydney at that time and everyone knew that the Packers wanted the casino, and that the NSW Govt was corrupt. The winning NSW casino owner (Tabcorp - NSW Govt) didnt get announced until 1994 after 7 more years of corruption and dirty deals. But Packer got there in the end and created Star Casino.

 

For those that dont know, the Packer family are an extremely wealthy and 'influential' family in Aust, especially in NSW were they live.  Quote from Google Search:  "The 2008 BRW Rich 200 listed Packer as the third richest person in Australia with a personal wealth of A$6.1 billion. That was the first time in 21 years that a member of the Packer family had not topped the list."

 

Oh, but don't let the truth get in the way of more unfounded Trump hysteria and criticism will you mate.  Liberal bandwagon rolling - gotta get on it. Go right ahead - but here's a tip - its heading for the cliff mate. Trump will be POTUS until 2020 - get over it - and try to get on with it.

 

By the way, how are those charges of rape, molestation and sexual assault going against Trump? Oh, that's right, they were all fake news made up with the support of the Dems and MSM.  Just like your rubbish story about mafia, the MSM rubbish about Russia, etc etc etc.

 

I too lived in Sydney at the time (Lower North Shore). We are not talking about other contenders for the project, only Trump. As clearly stated in your link the Police Board identified Trump connections as "dangerous". In addition I have sold IT Services to a well known casino in Australia and fully cognisant of the very vigorous vetting of suppliers prior to contract signing by appropriate government agency.

 

I have no interest whatsoever in your unproven conspiracy theories, nor do I have any confidence Trump is an appropriate person to fulfill the extremely important role of President of the USA for US domestic, foreign policy and trade leadership. Given Trump's destructive performance to date I find it extraordinary people still support him. Looks like the same people in Oz supporting Trump also support Hanson. Hanson lied about the process for a One Nation (LOL) representative to be invited to Trump's inauguration - the same mold as Trump - deliberate misinformation for self serving ego - currently just as useless for the future of the people of Australia as Trump is for the US.

Edited September 3, 2017 by simple1

[MRTELLYOUSTRAIGHT]

11 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

If I were you, I'd stick to posting only images, too.

 

When dealing with infantile anti Trump protesters that are so dense, light bends around them one has to accommodate.

[Meljames]

6 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Given Trump's destructive performance to date I find it extraordinary people still support him.

 

I was open to giving him a chance when he started, especially given the opposition.  However since he's taken office he has literally accomplished nothing, outside of reducing the US' standing in world affairs and bringing chaos to the Oval Office.  Months ago claiming support for Trump was acceptable, today, it really does show ones colors in a dark light.

[ilostmypassword]

12 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

If I were you, I'd stick to posting only images, too.

14 minutes ago, MRTELLYOUSTRAIGHT said:

 

When dealing with infantile anti Trump protesters that are so dense, light bends around them one has to accommodate.

 

And  the emptiness of your comment here just supports my original observation.

[mogandave]

 

I was open to giving him a chance when he started, especially given the opposition.  However since he's taken office he has literally accomplished nothing, outside of reducing the US' standing in world affairs and bringing chaos to the Oval Office.  Months ago claiming support for Trump was acceptable, today, it really does show ones colors in a dark light.

 

Yes, I think it fair to say we all wanted to give him a chance and hoped that he might have been successful for the good of the country.

 

But that chance has come and gone and we are left with criminal in the White House that wants nothing but to line his own pockets while he wipes his a** with our Constitution.

 

The lying orange buffoon must go!!!!!

 

Impeach 45!!!

[dundas]

17 hours ago, Global Guy said:

Putin bought Trump? Wow, that was a mainstream media puppet response if I ever read one. So how exactly did Putin buy this billionaire? And what exact crime did Trump commit? Hillary lost, get over it already. You guys going to whine for four years? 

I agree, he won. I didn't vote for him and I didn't vote against him --  I'm not a US citizen, but somehow people outside the US are now stuck with this 'leader of the free world' who (from what I see) most closely resembles a lying, bullying seven year old thug with links to money laundering and mafia types, and who trusts his own instinct (wherever it comes from) above the word of anyone with actual expertise. God help us all. 

[ilostmypassword]

17 hours ago, Global Guy said:

You won't produce anything to back up your statement. All I'm asking is something to support your accusation. I'm open to discussion.

 

What crimes were committed? Simple question based on your accusation. But you cannot cite any crimes you are accusing him of? If there are so many, it should be easy cite a few. How can you say someone committed a crime but you don't know what crime they committed? These vague "where there's smoke...." statements are MSM propaganda fluff.

 

What crimes were committed?

Money laundering from Russian criminals comes to mind. Remember that in the 90's after all of Trump's disastrous bankruptcies he was massively in debt. The banks considered him toxic. So where did the money come from that revived his fortune?

[Silurian]

4 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Money laundering from Russian criminals comes to mind. Remember that in the 90's after all of Trump's disastrous bankruptcies he was massively in debt. The banks considered him toxic. So where did the money come from that revived his fortune?

 

Just follow the money.

 

Deutsche Bank was caught being a part of a Russian money-laundering scheme. Deutsche Bank was the only bank to loan to Donny John after his series of bankruptcies. 

 

The Donny John's Taj Mahal casino was frequently visited by top Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov and other Brooklyn mobsters associated with the Russian mafia.

 

Russian-born Felix Sater (Donny John's real-estate adviser) was accused of being a co-conspirator in a $40 million fraud and money laundering scheme involving the Mafia. Donny John worked with Sater and the Bayrock Group on several real estate projects.

 

More and more evidence being found daily just sheds light on the Russian ties into Donny John's past and present. 

 

[Thakkar]

11 minutes ago, Silurian said:

 

Just follow the money.

 

Deutsche Bank was caught being a part of a Russian money-laundering scheme. Deutsche Bank was the only bank to loan to Donny John after his series of bankruptcies. 

 

The Donny John's Taj Mahal casino was frequently visited by top Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov and other Brooklyn mobsters associated with the Russian mafia.

 

Russian-born Felix Sater (Donny John's real-estate adviser) was accused of being a co-conspirator in a $40 million fraud and money laundering scheme involving the Mafia. Donny John worked with Sater and the Bayrock Group on several real estate projects.

 

More and more evidence being found daily just sheds light on the Russian ties into Donny John's past and present. 

 

Trump Taj Mahal Settles Over Anti-Money-Laundering Violations ...

Atlantic City, N.J.'s embattled Trump Taj Mahal casino has agreed to a settlement of federal findings that it violated anti-money-laundering requirements.

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-taj-mahal-settles-over-anti-money-laundering-violations-1423669834

[iReason]

34 minutes ago, Silurian said:

Just follow the money.

 

Russian-born Felix Sater (Donny John's real-estate adviser) was accused of being a co-conspirator in a $40 million fraud and money laundering scheme involving the Mafia. Donny John worked with Sater and the Bayrock Group on several real estate projects.

 

"Before working with the Trumps—and with the Bayrock Group, which is based two floors below the president’s office in Trump Tower—Sater previously worked on Wall Street and became involved in money laundering and stock fraud, which eventually led to him becoming an informant for the U.S. government."

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-felix-sater-real-estate-632690

 

[RobFord]

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What your point? Everyone knows the right can't do humor.


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[ballpoint]

1 hour ago, Silurian said:

 

Just follow the money.

 

Deutsche Bank was caught being a part of a Russian money-laundering scheme. Deutsche Bank was the only bank to loan to Donny John after his series of bankruptcies. 

 

The Donny John's Taj Mahal casino was frequently visited by top Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov and other Brooklyn mobsters associated with the Russian mafia.

 

Russian-born Felix Sater (Donny John's real-estate adviser) was accused of being a co-conspirator in a $40 million fraud and money laundering scheme involving the Mafia. Donny John worked with Sater and the Bayrock Group on several real estate projects.

 

More and more evidence being found daily just sheds light on the Russian ties into Donny John's past and present. 

 

You've really got to wonder why someone with his shady background would want to be president?  He must have surely known that his past would be gone over with a fine toothed comb and, to mix metaphors, it doesn't take too much rummaging in the closet to find the skeletons.  In fact, the closet appears to be overflowing with them to such an extent that the surplus are lounging about the White House, helping themselves to the drinks cabinet, making phone calls to Moscow, and topping up the swamp that is gradually taking over the South Lawn.  Is it stupidity?  Arrogance? A lust for power that over-rides self preservation?  Or a mix of all three?

[Skywalker69]

5 hours ago, Meljames said:

 

I was open to giving him a chance when he started, especially given the opposition.  However since he's taken office he has literally accomplished nothing, outside of reducing the US' standing in world affairs and bringing chaos to the Oval Office.  Months ago claiming support for Trump was acceptable, today, it really does show ones colors in a dark light.

You´re not alone.

 

https://twitter.com/trump_regrets