manarak Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 what happened, with a police box there, this thing might have been a huge money maker as 90% of local drivers don't understand roundabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) Lately there's been a stationary patrol up Bun Alley just off 2nd Rd. going towards Sukhumvit. Not sure what they've been doing there. Occasionally they'll be talking with a motorist. This has been going on for a few weeks off and on. Edited May 25, 2017 by Roger Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokairportlink Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 6 hours ago, KhunBENQ said: Yep, is there anything more dangerous than a straight trough path at a traffic light at night in Thailand? I have no idea why so many people are against the roundabout. At least it forces them to slow down. Maybe many don't know how to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou62 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) ^ Agreed, love roundabouts in the UK (If you need one) as opposed to lights. Living on Wat Boon and having to run this gauntlet multiple times per day, lights are the safest option. Edited May 25, 2017 by lou62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger101 Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 4 hours ago, bangkokairportlink said: Maybe many don't know how to use them. I was told many years ago to be very careful at roundabouts because the Thai way gives preference to traffic entering the roundabout and not traffic on the roundabout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazly Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Why not install a square roundabout or in the shape of a parallelogram as a behavioural study...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I never had any problems with the roundabout , been driving both a car and riding a bicycle almost daily last year . Just go with the flow , thai drivers understand that . They also understand they have to slow down unless they want to crash . So the roundabout worked. Now with traffic lights were back to speedy driving , especially at night and we will read about the first deadly accident within a year, no I'll give it 6 months. Speed kills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystal sauce Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 I have been here over a year and only the accidents I hear about are on line> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 17 hours ago, bobbin said: Well, depending on whether the light is green or red for you, you might have to stop at the traffic lights. Quelle surprise.. The roundabout was a free for all. The fact that it worked at all is because nobody understood how it worked.. Maybe true but in Thailand lights are also only considered a recommendation. Personally I liked the round about there. It possibly needed some rumble strips (not speed bumps) on the second road section to alert drivers they were approaching a round about so they would not just barrel through. Americans are not that familiar with them but they do work well. In regards to lights, even if you have the green slow down and make sure traffic has stopped for the red light. Certainly not a given here in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crystal sauce Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ulic said: Americans are not that familiar with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazly Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 hours ago, Ulic said: Maybe true but in Thailand lights are also only considered a recommendation. Personally I liked the round about there. It possibly needed some rumble strips (not speed bumps) on the second road section to alert drivers they were approaching a round about so they would not just barrel through. Americans are not that familiar with them but they do work well. In regards to lights, even if you have the green slow down and make sure traffic has stopped for the red light. Certainly not a given here in Thailand. It's because in the US, they are called roundabouts......it's roundabout the time you figured that out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 21 hours ago, gmac said: Why? The roundabout worked so much better than traffic lights. I always come into town that way when I need to visit Jomtien immigration and usually waste 2+ minutes sitting at the earlier traffic light which holds every one up sitting waiting for a green light to appear from a direction that actually has some traffic. The roundabout on the other hand was always completely clear no hold up at all. Other than the slight danger that you would get knocked off by someone coming straight on without giving way I agree with you. I too use this as a route to immigration, it avoided many of those damned long-wait lights around town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keesters Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I prefer roundabouts to traffic lights. But then I know how to use them. Thais it seems have no concept of 'give way'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 They give way to the biggest vehicle thats why the double decker tour bus,cement lorriesAnd "for too nas" zoom around like they own the road....at least the roundabout confused most drivers enough to slow down a bit...though some of the tour busses just barreled on straight through...just like they do at red lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joepattaya1961 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, crystal sauce said: Why do you live with them! Probably because he's not living at/near/on a roundabout. There's more in Thai life than taking roundabouts. Besides that, most Thais but most foreigners as well don't know how to 'take' a roundabout. In most Western (read: European and the UK) countries there's no uniform way. Edited May 26, 2017 by joepattaya1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 22 hours ago, KhunBENQ said: Yep, is there anything more dangerous than a straight trough path at a traffic light at night in Thailand? How about a sharp end at the end of a long straight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 In most Western (read: European and the UK) countries there's no uniform way. Of course there is a "uniform way"In the UK (and other left had drive countries) when approaching the "roundabout" your focus of attention is on other vehicles already on the roundabout that are coming from your right (there shouldn't be any coming from the left but best to look) if there is a vehicle to your right then you stop at the marked white lines and wait till there is no traffic to the right or there is enough distance to pull out onto the roundabout without making anyone slam on their brakes...If everyone follows these simple rules then roundabouts work extremely well.They can still suffer from gridlock when an exit is not clear and the tail back blocks everyone from going anywhere frequently seen at the North Pattaya Dolphin roundabout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 12 hours ago, crystal sauce said: I have been here over a year and only the accidents I hear about are on line> That puts you up one step, from a two week tourist. There are many steps in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, tazly said: Why not install a square roundabout or in the shape of a parallelogram as a behavioural study...... Benjy and Frankie mouse, maybe interested in your concept. They have some previous experience of this in the past / future Edited May 26, 2017 by stanleycoin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 hours ago, johng said: They can still suffer from gridlock when an exit is not clear and the tail back blocks everyone from going anywhere frequently seen at the North Pattaya Dolphin roundabout. In the UK, when a tailback starts to form across a roundabout, most drivers will stop behind the white line or try and leave a gap so as not to impede any cross flow. The pillocks here will dive into the last place on an already stuck roundabout and bugger the whole thing up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 The pillocks here will dive into the last place on an already stuck roundabout and bugger the whole thing up.Yes that happens 100% of the time at Dolphin roundabout North Pattaya....the one on Wat Boon was working ok..ish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmac Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 51 minutes ago, johng said: Yes that happens 100% of the time at Dolphin roundabout North Pattaya....the one on Wat Boon was working ok..ish Big difference is that the Wat Boon one was proper roundabout with traffic flow helped by traffic from all directions, the Dolphin North Pattaya version is not a proper roundabout in that two of the roads can only be used in one direction which negates the usual traffic flow benefits a roundabout should provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokairportlink Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I think it's stupid that people on the roundabout stop to let the ones waiting come inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 I think it's stupid that people on the roundabout stop to let the ones waiting come inside. Yes its stupid because thats not how roundabouts a supposed to work ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 the Dolphin North Pattaya version is not a proper roundabout Its also not even a 100% roundaboutIn that you can't go round it 360 degrees because of the blocked offNorth pattaya road exit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazly Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 6 hours ago, stanleycoin said: Benjy and Frankie mouse, maybe interested in your concept. They have some previous experience of this in the past / future Are you referring to the pandimensional beings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazly Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 11 hours ago, joepattaya1961 said: Probably because he's not living at/near/on a roundabout. There's more in Thai life than taking roundabouts. Besides that, most Thais but most foreigners as well don't know how to 'take' a roundabout. In most Western (read: European and the UK) countries there's no uniform way. Well the way to use them in the Uk and many countries is definitely different by definition since they drive on different sides of the road.....sorry I am a bit of a stickler for detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazly Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 hour ago, johng said: Its also not even a 100% roundabout In that you can't go round it 360 degrees because of the blocked off North pattaya road exit. good point....what would that be called, partial roundabout, halfway roundabout, a 75er? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazly Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 2 hours ago, johng said: Yes its stupid because thats not how roundabouts a supposed to work ! Who made the international rules you are referring to? Is this the international roundabout federation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkokairportlink Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 6 hours ago, johng said: Yes its stupid because thats not how roundabouts a supposed to work ! Yes, I don't know how they must be used where you come from, but the genius where I come from give priority to people who already are on the roundabout, which is a lost smarter, but certainly too much for Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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