Equality group files complaint after Korat school bans LGBT pupils

[rooster59]

Equality group files complaint after Korat school bans LGBT pupils

By PRATCH RUJIVANAROM
THE SUNDAY NATION

 

 

ENFORCEMENT of the Gender Equality Act is still insufficient as the law has many loopholes that discourage the prevention of gender discrimination, an LGBT group has said.

 

The Togetherness for Equality Action (TEA) group expressed concern after a gender discrimination committee rejected a petition by TEA to investigate Tawanchai Wittaya School in Nakhon Ratchasima over an admissions rule that bans lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students.

 

Chumaporn Waaddao, a TEA member, said she was disappointed that the committee refused to review Tawanchai Wittaya School’s policy on the grounds that her organisation had been unable to identify particular individuals harmed by the prejudicial policy.

 

“We were told that our petition to the committee was incomplete, as we could not find anyone who was disadvantaged by the school’s admission rule. But it is very obvious that the rule is discriminatory against LGBT people, as the school denies this group of people the right to study,” Chumaporn said.

“An investigation into this issue is in the public interest, because the school’s rule disadvantages the LGBT community as a whole, not just individual victims. Moreover, most victims of such discrimination in a conservative society are too afraid to publicly identify themselves as LGBT.”

 

She said the experience made it clear that the Gender Equality Act had problems. First, she said, the law failed to encourage gender equality and prevent discrimination. Second, the law had loopholes that made investigations into gender discrimination ineffective. Supensri Pungkoksung, a member of the gender discrimination investigation committee, said the panel acknowledged the problem at Tawanchai School. It also conceded that the Gender Equality Act was not perfect and needed to be improved.

 

“The committee does not have any power over the act and we have to follow the rules. The case request for Tawanchai Wittaya School was incomplete, so we could not investigate the issue even if we wanted to,” she said.

 

Supensri said the TEA Group should find another agency to help address the issue, such as the National Human Rights Commission, which could investigate rights violations immediately even without a complaint from a ‘victim’.

 

Supensri admitted that the Gender Equality Act was quite new, so further improvement of the law was needed to better protect the rights of all people regardless of their gender or sexual orientation.

 

“We still have to work hard to prevent gender discrimination and we admit the complaint from the TEA Group calls for improvement of our duty in the future, while the promotion of gender equality is a task for the Women’s Affairs and Family Development Office,” she said. 

 

“I have heard that they are working hard to change the mindset of people to embrace gender diversity and equality.”

 

Meanwhile, Tawanchai Wittaya School principal Saiwarun Sompong said the school banned non-heterosexual students from attending because it was a boarding school.

 

“We do not accept LGBT students because we are afraid that we cannot take care of them well. We are a boarding school, which separates clearly between male and female dorms. If a student is homosexual, they could face trouble adapting to the society here,” Saiwarun said.

 

Another reason, she said, was because the school had a religious basis and aims to produce students with “good morals”, according to Buddhism values.

 

“We are open and ready to teach everyone, but we fear for the students’ well-being, so LGBT student can register with other schools that suit them more,” she said.

 

Meanwhile, Ratchasima Wittayalai School, also in Nakhon Ratchasima, reportedly compiled a list of male students who were |“sexually deviant”. School principal Boonlert Phuangphet said the list was only to enrol targeted students |for “personality improvement |programmes”, adding that names on the list were kept strictly confidential.

 

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-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-06-04

[wirat69]

"It is OK to be gay, provided you do not live in my house".... Thai culture at its best!!

[ChrisY1]

Given the number of Toms in Thailand.....half the female school population could be expelled!

[Fulwell53]

1 hour ago, ChrisY1 said:

Given the number of Toms in Thailand.....half the female school population could be expelled!

So you are seriously suggesting that 50 % of school age thai females are gay???

Troll post at its most blatant?

Or do you hang around schools and have regular contact with this demographic?

The latter being the case I'd be careful the police dont get on your case.

[Jonmarleesco]

11 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Moreover, most victims of such discrimination in a conservative society are too afraid to publicly identify themselves as LGBT.”

If they'd been banned by the school, it already would be public. As for a conservative society, this is the same one that sees katoys as an acceptable, if not a normal, part of Thai society.

[Jonmarleesco]

11 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Meanwhile, Ratchasima Wittayalai School, also in Nakhon Ratchasima, reportedly compiled a list of male students who were “sexually deviant”. School principal Boonlert Phuangphet said the list was only to enrol targeted students for “personality improvement programmes”

Wow! A variation of the attitude adjustment programme.

Edited June 4, 2017 by Jonmarleesco

[mrwebb8825]

On 6/4/2017 at 10:10 AM, ChrisY1 said:

Given the number of Toms in Thailand.....half the female school population could be expelled!

Half would be an exaggeration but clearly 20%-ish of the females and 30%-ish of the males would be banned. I also find it amusing that this TEA group couldn't find a single victim to complete their silly complaint. This reminds me of the stupid lawsuit filed in the states because some girl wanted to join the Boy Scouts instead of the Girl Scouts.

I couldn't care less if someone wants to be gay but do the other 90% of us have to be bent over and have it shoved down our throats?

[tomwct]

In Thailand the school sets the policy, if you don't like it go to America (San Francisco). Cup of Tea please!

[Jingthing]

10 minutes ago, tomwct said:

In Thailand the school sets the policy, if you don't like it go to America (San Francisco). Cup of Tea please!

It's an ignorant, bigoted, unfairly discriminatory policy and the group fighting it is on right side of morality, and hopefully history. 

Edited June 7, 2017 by Jingthing

[tomwct]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's an ignorant, bigoted, unfairly discriminatory policy and the group fighting it is on right side of morality, and hopefully history. 

Now I'm not going to sleep good tonight worrying about those students left behind. Get a Life!

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, tomwct said:

Now I'm not going to sleep good tonight worrying about those students left behind. Get a Life!

Yes, I believe you that you don't care about sexual minority civil rights. But a lot of people do. 

 

Cheers. 

[Jingthing]

29 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Half would be an exaggeration but clearly 20%-ish of the females and 30%-ish of the males would be banned. I also find it amusing that this TEA group couldn't find a single victim to complete their silly complaint. This reminds me of the stupid lawsuit filed in the states because some girl wanted to join the Boy Scouts instead of the Girl Scouts.

I couldn't care less if someone wants to be gay but do the other 90% of us have to be bent over and have it shoved down our throats?

Let's take your argument and apply it to racial or religious minorities to reveal how utterly hateful your POV is.

 

Of course your rude, crude,  intentionally provocate SEXUAL insinuations (bent over / shoved down our threats) is clearly related to a severe case of homophobia specifically.

 

I couldn't care less if someone is black but do the other xx% of us have to be bent over and have it shoved down our throats?

 

I couldn't care less if someone is Muslim but do the other xx% of us have to be bent over and have it shoved down our throats?

 

Edited June 7, 2017 by Jingthing

[Luckysilk]

I commend them, it's a boarding school.

 

“We do not accept LGBT students because we are afraid that we cannot take care of them well. We are a boarding school, which separates clearly between male and female dorms. If a student is homosexual, they could face trouble adapting to the society here,” Saiwarun said.

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, Luckysilk said:

I commend them, it's a boarding school.

 

“We do not accept LGBT students because we are afraid that we cannot take care of them well. We are a boarding school, which separates clearly between male and female dorms. If a student is homosexual, they could face trouble adapting to the society here,” Saiwarun said.

But it's obviously not about caring about the sexual minority students. That's a lame excuse. 

To reveal that, do the race and religion substitution test as I did above. That would not be acceptable but somehow the bigotry against sexual minorities is to some people. 

Edited June 7, 2017 by Jingthing

[mrwebb8825]

On 6/7/2017 at 4:53 PM, Jingthing said:

But it's obviously not about caring about the sexual minority students. That's a lame excuse. 

To reveal that, do the race and religion substitution test as I did above. That would not be acceptable but somehow the bigotry against sexual minorities is to some people. 

So, society as a whole should be forced to fork out extra money because of a few? You obviously keep a life sized poster of H. Clinton over your bed so you can sleep well.

 

If my use of "bent over and have it shoved down our throats" creates homophobic nightmares for you then how another old adage, "having it force fed to us"? When is it ok in your world for the majority of the people to make the rules?

There are tolerances and your reaching to compare it to "race" (which there is no such thing if you truly look at the word) and "religion" where, in this instance, most religions ban same sex relations of an intimate nature, you still make an ignorant argument. 

Those sexually deviant minorities have plenty of places to go get an education. 

By your way of thinking, the school should build a special dorm to house this minority, hire additional staff to care for this minority and pass the expense along to the MAJORITY that doesn't WANT their young, impressionable children overly exposed to what they clearly deem inappropriate behaviors which is why they pay extra money in the 1st place.

[Jingthing]

9 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

So, society as a whole should be forced to fork out extra money because of a few? You obviously keep a life sized poster of H. Clinton over your bed so you can sleep well.
...

Worthless tripe, dude.

By resorting to your completely MORONIC and totally OFF TOPIC personal attack related to Hillary Clinton, you basically forfeited this little debate.

If you can't do better than that, kindly desist from ever replying to me directly again. 

Edited June 13, 2017 by Jingthing

[Luckysilk]

35 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

So, society as a whole should be forced to fork out extra money because of a few? You obviously keep a life sized poster of H. Clinton over your bed so you can sleep well.

 

If my use of "bent over and have it shoved down our throats" creates homophobic nightmares for you then how another old adage, "having it force fed to us"? When is it ok in your world for the majority of the people to make the rules?

There are tolerances and your reaching to compare it to "race" (which there is no such thing if you truly look at the word) and "religion" where, in this instance, most religions ban same sex relations of an intimate nature, you still make an ignorant argument. 

Those sexually deviant minorities have plenty of places to go get an education. 

By your way of thinking, the school should build a special dorm to house this minority, hire additional staff to care for this minority and pass the expense along to the MAJORITY that doesn't WANT their young, impressionable children overly exposed to what they clearly deem inappropriate behaviors which is why they pay extra money in the 1st place.

I liked everything you said except the word deviant.

 

Their school, their rules.

[mrwebb8825]

22 hours ago, Luckysilk said:

I liked everything you said except the word deviant.

 

Their school, their rules.

The origin of "Deviant" is much like the origin of "Queer" which simply means different from the accepted norm.

Edited June 14, 2017 by mrwebb8825

[mrwebb8825]

23 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Worthless tripe, dude.

By resorting to your completely MORONIC and totally OFF TOPIC personal attack related to Hillary Clinton, you basically forfeited this little debate.

If you can't do better than that, kindly desist from ever replying to me directly again. 

Be that as it may, it seems to have prompted you to change your avatar.

You fight for those you do not know (or maybe you do?) but how would the situation suit you if it were your son or daughter being forced to shower, sleep and eat with people who find them sexually attractive? If the school forced both females and males to use the same bathroom and sleeping facilities you'd be up in arms. How is this any different?

Impressionable adolescents have a delicate enough psyche without being forced by an outside entity  to do things against the wishes of their families.

Edited June 14, 2017 by mrwebb8825

[jak2002003]

3 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Be that as it may, it seems to have prompted you to change your avatar.

You fight for those you do not know (or maybe you do?) but how would the situation suit you if it were your son or daughter being forced to shower, sleep and eat with people who find them sexually attractive? If the school forced both females and males to use the same bathroom and sleeping facilities you'd be up in arms. How is this any different?

Impressionable adolescents have a delicate enough psyche without being forced by an outside entity  to do things against the wishes of their families.

Are you for real?  Are you really so ignorant, scared and hateful to CHILDREDN who are gay?

 

What is your problem with gay students in school?  What extra money would need forking out.. why would they need to housed away from other students?  What do you think these children are going to do... go around raping their classmates in the showers?  What a sick a perverted view about gay people you have!

 

What things do you think these children would be 'forced to do against their will' exactly? 

 

You have some serious issues going on.  You meet gay people every day of your life (unless you never leave your house).  Do they go around molesting you or forcing you to do things against you will? 

 

You find it so bad if someone finds you sexually attractive?  That is nature.  I am sure you find other people sexually attractive.. but don't go about trying to do sexual things to them against their will... I hope not.

 

News flash for you.. every school has gay students mixed in with the rest.  It's a fact of life that a percentage of people are gay. There will be gay kids in this school also.. but they will be scared and intimidated into hiding their personalities from the others.. and grow up in an environment where they will suffer great emotional distress by being made to feel they are sinners and not accepted by society. 

 

[mrwebb8825]

10 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Are you for real?  Are you really so ignorant, scared and hateful to CHILDREDN who are gay?

 

What is your problem with gay students in school?  What extra money would need forking out.. why would they need to housed away from other students?  What do you think these children are going to do... go around raping their classmates in the showers?  What a sick a perverted view about gay people you have!

 

What things do you think these children would be 'forced to do against their will' exactly? 

 

You have some serious issues going on.  You meet gay people every day of your life (unless you never leave your house).  Do they go around molesting you or forcing you to do things against you will? 

 

You find it so bad if someone finds you sexually attractive?  That is nature.  I am sure you find other people sexually attractive.. but don't go about trying to do sexual things to them against their will... I hope not.

 

News flash for you.. every school has gay students mixed in with the rest.  It's a fact of life that a percentage of people are gay. There will be gay kids in this school also.. but they will be scared and intimidated into hiding their personalities from the others.. and grow up in an environment where they will suffer great emotional distress by being made to feel they are sinners and not accepted by society. 

 

Someone pull your chain Mary?

I'm defending the right of the school and the rights of the parents who chose that school for their beliefs to NOT have to kowtow to activists groups.

Newsflash: Not every school is a full time boarding school.

[Jingthing]

Be that as it may, it seems to have prompted you to change your avatar. [emoji6]

No connection.

[Jingthing]

Are you for real?  Are you really so ignorant, scared and hateful to CHILDREDN who are gay?
 
What is your problem with gay students in school?  What extra money would need forking out.. why would they need to housed away from other students?  What do you think these children are going to do... go around raping their classmates in the showers?  What a sick a perverted view about gay people you have!
 
What things do you think these children would be 'forced to do against their will' exactly? 
 
You have some serious issues going on.  You meet gay people every day of your life (unless you never leave your house).  Do they go around molesting you or forcing you to do things against you will? 
 
You find it so bad if someone finds you sexually attractive?  That is nature.  I am sure you find other people sexually attractive.. but don't go about trying to do sexual things to them against their will... I hope not.
 
News flash for you.. every school has gay students mixed in with the rest.  It's a fact of life that a percentage of people are gay. There will be gay kids in this school also.. but they will be scared and intimidated into hiding their personalities from the others.. and grow up in an environment where they will suffer great emotional distress by being made to feel they are sinners and not accepted by society. 
 

Yes homophobia is a terrible thing and it's on full display daily on this forum.

[jak2002003]

2 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Someone pull your chain Mary?

I'm defending the right of the school and the rights of the parents who chose that school for their beliefs to NOT have to kowtow to activists groups.

Newsflash: Not every school is a full time boarding school.

''Someone pull your chain Mary?'  What does that mean?  My name is not Mary. 

 

Why are you defending that school... are you part of it or are you homophobic?

 

You did not answer any of my questions... which shows me you are not even thinking about the situation seriously... if at all. 

 

I would be happy for my children to mix with any other kids, gay, straight, various religions, colours, nationalities... what is important is people are good people, kind, considerate, tolerant, and treat each other with respect... so they grow up into good human beings. 

 

I would not want them to be anywhere near you for any length of time in fear of them becoming the kind of person you appear to be.

 

 

[mrwebb8825]

15 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

''Someone pull your chain Mary?'  What does that mean?  My name is not Mary. 

WHOOSH! Obviously that went over your head. I won't bother with the history lesson.

 

15 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

Why are you defending that school... are you part of it or are you homophobic?

So I either have to be a part of the school or homophobic to believe that everyone has a right to chose how they want to live without having some minority group coming along claiming they don't like YOUR choices and YOU need to change YOUR choices to suit THEM??

Not sure what planet you're from but it might be time to return. Or maybe you could invite me over to your house so that I can start pointing out all of your missteps and making a list of things you need to change to better suit me.

According to your point of view this would give you the opportunity to practice what you're preaching. 

[jak2002003]

On ‎15‎/‎06‎/‎2017 at 10:56 AM, mrwebb8825 said:

WHOOSH! Obviously that went over your head. I won't bother with the history lesson.

 

So I either have to be a part of the school or homophobic to believe that everyone has a right to chose how they want to live without having some minority group coming along claiming they don't like YOUR choices and YOU need to change YOUR choices to suit THEM??

Not sure what planet you're from but it might be time to return. Or maybe you could invite me over to your house so that I can start pointing out all of your missteps and making a list of things you need to change to better suit me.

According to your point of view this would give you the opportunity to practice what you're preaching. 

Calling me 'Mary' seems to be some kind of dig at me.  Right?

 

You would not like to come to my house.. because there might be someone, male or female, that might find you attractive... which you think is a disgusting and upsetting thing for you somehow.

 

You say 'everyone has the right to choose how they want to live'.  But in that school kids don't have that right.  So you must defend them too. 

 

You are against minority groups and agree with discriminating against them and giving them no help or protecting from abuse and verbally attack anyone who tries to help other human beings.  I understand what kind of person you are now. 

[mrwebb8825]

2 minutes ago, jak2002003 said:

Calling me 'Mary' seems to be some kind of dig at me.  Right?

 

You would not like to come to my house.. because there might be someone, male or female, that might find you attractive... which you think is a disgusting and upsetting thing for you somehow.

 

You say 'everyone has the right to choose how they want to live'.  But in that school kids don't have that right.  So you must defend them too. 

 

You are against minority groups and agree with discriminating against them and giving them no help or protecting from abuse and verbally attack anyone who tries to help other human beings.  I understand what kind of person you are now. 

You should careful, working as a "shrink" without a valid work permit might land you in trouble.

 

Other than that, you're so far off base that you're playing on a different continent. 

[bbi1]

On 2017-6-4 at 0:57 PM, wirat69 said:

"It is OK to be gay, provided you do not live in my house".... Thai culture at its best!!

They should ship all the gays and trannies to some secluded island to live together. Tasmania sounds like an ideal choice. All the lesbos could stay put though.

[Jingthing]

8 hours ago, bbi1 said:

They should ship all the gays and trannies to some secluded island to live together. Tasmania sounds like an ideal choice. All the lesbos could stay put though.

Ship yourself.

Imagine an island of bigots.

Would surely need to be bigger than Tasmania though. 

[bbi1]

31 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Ship yourself.

Imagine an island of bigots.

Would surely need to be bigger than Tasmania though. 

Do you have a liking for chicks with dicks & a bit of up the bum action?