Gastroesophageal Reflux Disease (GERD) - What medicine do you take ? Does it help ?

[jeab1980]

24 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

Omeprazole generic.  It's cheap if you know where to buy it.  You better start taking something, not only is it unpleasant, but it can give you cancer.

Before taking or self prescribing  medication you should always see a doctor. Telling someone to take medication without knowing the full facts is crazy. No one including the op has no idea whats wrong with him. 

[jeab1980]

3 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

The OP doesn't need a doctor. 

Why do you presume that?

[TonyClifton]

15 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Why do you presume that?

It's over the counter medication.  I presume nothing.  I know.

[jeab1980]

9 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

It's over the counter medication.  I presume nothing.  I know.

You have no idea whats wrong with the guy. Telling anyone to take something without knowing whats wrong is just stupid. Yes a pharmacist in thailand can perscribe/more like sell them as they ask nothing. So whilst you say you know and presume nothing about that. You presume and no nothing about whats actually wrong with op. Bad advise indeed

Edited June 24, 2017 by jeab1980

[TonyClifton]

4 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

You presume and no nothing 

 

I KNOW the difference between no and know.

[Flustered]

41 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

The OP doesn't need a doctor. 

?

[jeab1980]

24 minutes ago, TonyClifton said:

I KNOW the difference between no and know.

Sounds about right trot on forum quack

Edited June 24, 2017 by jeab1980

[Flustered]

5 minutes ago, jeab1980 said:

Sounds about right trot on forum quack

That's OK.

 

No one will take much notice of someone with stupid comments like his.

 

Aspirin is over the counter medicine but it can kill if taken for the wrong reasons.

[TonyClifton]

57 minutes ago, Flustered said:

That's OK.

 

No one will take much notice of someone with stupid comments like his.

 

Aspirin is over the counter medicine but it can kill if taken for the wrong reasons.

Drink too much water and you can die of encephalitis.  You didn't run to a doctor about water, did you? 

[bangkokairportlink]

4 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

You have no idea whats wrong with the guy. Telling anyone to take something without knowing whats wrong is just stupid. Yes a pharmacist in thailand can perscribe/more like sell them as they ask nothing. So whilst you say you know and presume nothing about that. You presume and no nothing about whats actually wrong with op. Bad advise indeed

 

You think too much like guys from nanny states were thinking before internet exists.

 

It's so easy nowadays to think more than most doctors who are anyway just interested but the money you give them.

 

 

[Flustered]

1 minute ago, bangkokairportlink said:

 

You think too much like guys from nanny states were thinking before internet exists.

 

It's so easy nowadays to think more than most doctors who are anyway just interested but the money you give them.

 

 

I thought at first you were a serious poster but now realise that you have no interest in help.

 

You have already decided to do your own thing regardless of good advice if in fact you have any problem at all.

 

In the end, just a plain old common or garden troll.

[TonyClifton]

2 minutes ago, Flustered said:

I thought at first you were a serious poster but now realise that you have no interest in help.

 

You have already decided to do your own thing regardless of good advice if in fact you have any problem at all.

 

In the end, just a plain old common or garden troll.

Translation: I'm taking my toys and going home.

[garrya]

If you reduce the amount of carbs you eat you will cure yourself.

Since I started low carbing I have not had a moment when I experienced reflux problems. Before it had been a weekly issue.

 

[Ulysses G.]

I stopped eating refined foods almost completely and fairly low carbs for a long period of time and mine went away. I'm back to eating some refined foods, but keep it at a minimum. I eat lots of carbs through. 

[bazza73]

10 hours ago, Mrjlh said:

The OP should be asking a real Doctor not here.

How does one identify a competent doctor in Thailand? Not that easy. I've had one doctor prescribe a tendon-snapping antibiotic, and two that failed to diagnose cellulitis. That's why I always check the side effects of medicines prescribed here - Thai doctors hand out medications like lollies.

The OP was asking for people with similar experience of GERD. What is your experience?

Edited June 25, 2017 by bazza73
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[bangkokairportlink]

10 hours ago, Flustered said:

I thought at first you were a serious poster but now realise that you have no interest in help.

 

You have already decided to do your own thing regardless of good advice if in fact you have any problem at all.

 

In the end, just a plain old common or garden troll.

 

 

As already said I met 3 "specialists" doctors who are just as ridiculous as I expected from any doctor in the world.

 

Yes, my lifestyle is the cause of my problems, and no, I do not want to change totally.

 

So this is the reason why I am asking, and I will keep repeating that only guys not able to find information on their own think that doctors know everything and are always needed. Especially in this situation, they are not.

 

So funny to keep thinking as when we were not able to get any information apart from books that we would have not been able to understand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TonyClifton]

10 hours ago, garrya said:

If you reduce the amount of carbs you eat you will cure yourself.

Since I started low carbing I have not had a moment when I experienced reflux problems. Before it had been a weekly issue.

 

 

You're correct.  I also eat low carb.  Depends on the op if that is enough. 

[Thongkorn]

Have you tried mushrooms, they are supposed to be a Natural  antacid, Usually there is a cause too  much flux,  spicey foods, the way you eat, Mine is Milk, i now have Lactose free milk which seems to work.

[bill59]

It seems my whole Thai family is afflicted with it. My daughter who is a P.A. In the US recommended Nexium for them and it has helped them tremendously.

 

 

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[Thongkorn]

i use Lansoprazole 30mg. If i sleep horisontal i get acid reflux, 

[superal]

I have had a hiatus hernia and used to eat Rennies as if they were sweets . Had 2 endoscopies with biopsies  but returned negative . Body making too much acid with the reflux burning and disgusting taste .  I have been on  omeprazole 20 mg  for at least 15 years .Taken first thing in the morning 20 minutes before breakfast .  Avoid over spicy food especially 3 hours before sleeping even when taking omeprazole as I found out to my horror . A couple of years ago woke at 02 00 am with the worse reflux imaginable after eating spicy curry and on top of a few beers  , thought I was dying  ( details not nice ) .  

  As many of you will know omeprazole and similar medicines are a preventative and not a cure i.e. on the rare occasion  if I forgot to take it I will get reflux or indigestion within 4 hours and have to take antacids such as Gaviscon liquid which gives quick relief . Omeprazole is not available over the counter in the UK , only by prescription from your doctor who will look for underlying causes . Can buy it here in Thailand over the counter for 60 baht which gives a 2 weeks supply  12 to 14 tablets . 

[phuketrichard]

I have it and have found changing my diet has helped immensely. 
cut out oily foods, spicy foods ( very hard to do as i love spicy foods) , potato chips, orange, mango juice, coffee after noon.

Try and not go to bed until at least  3hours after eating

 

If i do feel it coming on i chew a tums ( 1,000 mg) tablet and sit upright, most of my problems occur at night when i am laying down.

Edited June 26, 2017 by phuketrichard

[Jai Dee]

One post containing possibly dangerous medical advice has been removed from this thread.

 

Topic moved to Heath Forum.

 

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[TallGuyJohninBKK]

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Usually there is a cause too  much flux,  spicey foods, the way you eat, Mine is Milk, i now have Lactose free milk which seems to work.

 

Weird related thing:

 

I'm from the U.S., and been eating dairy products all my life with no health/stomach issues at all -- milk, yogurt, cheese, ice cream, you name it. All good.

 

Came to Thailand, and because fresh milk is less common here, started using Foremost UHT milk on my morning cereal when I started eating cereal as a regular breakfast. Didn't realize it then, but started having stomach problems. And that ultimately led to seeing a gastro dr., getting prescribed omaprazole, etc etc. No explanation from the doctor of why I was having stomach problems, just given medicine to remedy the symptoms.

 

Later, just by chance (not purposefully) when I started varying my breakfasts away from cereal, and thus stopped using/drinking UHT milk every day, my stomach problems went away and absolutely no need for any medication ever since. Even now, I can still eat all the regular dairy I want -- fresh milk, ice cream, cheese, yogurt, etc.  But for some reason, UHT milk here wreaks havoc with my stomach.

 

So these days, I still eat cereal periodically for breakfast, but instead of Thai UHT milk, I've been using Freedom Foods' rice milk from Australia, which is easy to find and buy at the expat supermarkets.

Edited June 26, 2017 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Sheryl]

A number of bickering and off-topic posts have been removed

[jeab1980]

There is only one way to find out what is causing the reflux. You can debate all you want about thevinternet quacks take on things and internet solutions it means nothing untill you have an exact cause of the problem. If the OP is to be belived he has seen 3 specialist so you must have a diagnosis. Have you had an endoscopy? What did it show? You should now know the cause and the remedies to help check it. If you are saying you have seen 3 specialist and you are saying either you dont belive them? or they could find no cause ?.

Which is it ?

[Flustered]

On 2017-6-26 at 2:22 AM, superal said:

I have had a hiatus hernia and used to eat Rennies as if they were sweets . Had 2 endoscopies with biopsies  but returned negative .

If you had a hiatus hernia, the endoscopy would have shown this and not be negative as to cause of reflux.

 

Edited June 27, 2017 by Flustered

[superal]

7 minutes ago, Flustered said:

If you had a hiatus hernia, the endoscopy would have shown this and not be negative as to cause of reflux.

 

What is your point ?  overproduction of acid  has nothing to do with the hiatus hernia 

[Flustered]

If you had Had 2 endoscopies with biopsies but they returned negative, how could you have a hiatus hernia? It would have shown up with the endoscopy.

 

Unless you are trying to say that you were looking for the cause of the hiatus hernia or the cause of the acid reflux? Not very clear.

[Sheryl]

Presumably what he means is that biopsies of gastric lesions (polyps etc) were negative for malignancy.

 

Endoscopy will show if there is a hiatal hernia.

 

However that information is not really necessary to management of GERD as that is the same whether HH is present or not, except in the very rare case where surgery is indicated.

 

Regardless:

 

 - weight loss will diminish or even stop the reflux

 

- drugs that suppress acid productions (PPIs, H2 bl;ockers) will decrease the pain associated with reflux but in no way decrease the reflux. These drugs once started are very difficult to stop due to acid rebound.

 

- avoiding/reducing caffeine, ensuring a 2 hour gap between eating and lying down, reducing the size of the evening meal, reducing the amount of fat eaten before bedtime and elevating the head of the bed will all usually help