Prayut to solve labour law issues

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Prayut to solve labour law issues
By The Nation

 

Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha

 

BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha promised Friday to solve problems that are arising out of the tougher foreign labour law.

 

A royal ordinance on foreign workers, which took effect on June 23, prescribes a fine of at least Bt400,000 per illegal worker an employer hires in Thailand. 

 

The amount of fine is at least four times higher than before. 

 

However, the tougher law has prompted an exodus of migrant workers out of Thailand, adversely affecting several business sectors as well as housemaid hirers. 

 

“I will find solutions about what to during the transition,” Prayut promised. “I will look into how to help small-scale employers.”

 

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/breakingnews/30319558

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-06-30

[whatawonderfulday]

Well I am sure he will find a way to ensure the corrupt Elite, who supports the Junta, can continue to use illegal workers at a fraction of the legal minimum wage to make massive profits for themselves on Junta awarded major projects.

[Chang_paarp]

I thought he did that last year and the year before. 

 

I must be confused.

[ukrules]

They will fine the small businesses out of existence, problem solved.

 

I wonder why he thinks there's a problem, it's only been around a few days ?

Edited June 30, 2017 by ukrules

[colinneil]

Prayut to solve labour law issue.

As i have said many times, this ,man lives in la-la land.

Every week he spouts more nonsense, he will fix this, he will fix that.

At the end of the day he fixes absolutely nothing.

[Ceruhe]

Some countries take years, even decades and hundreds and thousands of people to solve issues on that scale and fail miserably, meet Thailand, single country in the world which has 1 man solving everything on the side like a snack.

[Bluespunk]

1 hour ago, Chang_paarp said:

I thought he did that last year and the year before. 

 

I must be confused.

Someone's confused anyway. 

[darksidedog]

I'm not at all confident that Prayut can fix this. After all, it is his stupidity, narrow mindedness and obvious lack of foresight that has created the problem in the first place. The new laws were brought in under charter 44 without any of the normal discussions with relevant departments who could have advised on a sensible approach. The labour laws here were already ludicrously over the top, so tightening them further, without considering the adverse consequences,  just proves how badly the country is being run under this imbecile. Scary as it is to admit, even Donald bloody Trump could probably do better.

 

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Junta to use Article 44 to delay new migrant law

 

 

BANGKOK — The National Council for Peace and Order announced Friday it would use its absolute power to delay the implementation of a migrant labor law that would levy heavy fines on employers of illegal migrant workers.

 

Wissanu Krea-ngam, the junta’s legal advisor, said Friday afternoon it would use Article 44 to delay by 120 days a new law imposing heavy fines on employers who hire illegal migrants to allow both employers and workers to adjust to the regulations. Wissanu did not say when the junta order would be carried out.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2017/06/30/junta-uses-article-44-delay-new-migrant-law/

 

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2017-06-30

[Bluespunk]

6 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said:

Junta to use Article 44 to delay new migrant law

 

 

BANGKOK — The National Council for Peace and Order announced Friday it would use its absolute power to delay the implementation of a migrant labor law that would levy heavy fines on employers of illegal migrant workers.

 

Wissanu Krea-ngam, the junta’s legal advisor, said Friday afternoon it would use Article 44 to delay by 120 days a new law imposing heavy fines on employers who hire illegal migrants to allow both employers and workers to adjust to the regulations. Wissanu did not say when the junta order would be carried out.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2017/06/30/junta-uses-article-44-delay-new-migrant-law/

 

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2017-06-30

Ah, there you go. 

 

Should have thought of that...

[Bluespunk]

Now if only they can stop the killings and cover ups on koh tao as easily. 

[ukrules]

I wonder what prompted this sudden change

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

His so called government came up with these new rules and now he have to back paddle because it was a stupid law for a country dependent on cheap migrant workers. Lower the fees and cut out the red tape for the Burmese, Lao and Cambodians workers if they want them registered, but maybe too difficult for them to figure out.

 

[BuckBee]

^ spot on, only way make it work is introduce suitable simple work permits for suitable migrant workers in required fields and run it efficiently and within a clear legal framework . They mainly doing jobs thais won't do but indeed some are for super cheap labour and that needs weeding out and fixed . Thailand without massive amount of lao and bermese will grind to a halt lol .

[clockman]

An empty bucket, makes the most noise, Or please engage brain. before opening mouth!

[pookiki]

One can only be a bit stupefied that the PM must use Article 44 to nullify laws passed by a legislative body that is completely controlled by the NCPO! 

[Cadbury]

Mr Fixit. No problem too big or too small. Problem solver extraordinaire. Call me now on my hotline.

You name it; footpaths, foreign labour law, twerking dancers. lotteries, bicycle lanes, wide scale corruption, Thailand 4.0, democratic elections. All easily fixed in the blink of an eye. Personal attention assured.

Call now to the Officers Mess HQ Army Bangkok. Please leave your home address so we can drop by to discuss matters.

[tomacht8]

Anyway.
I think it's a good thing that the new employment law for foreigners is / will be stopped.
Actually, only the penalties were increased and the real problem was not solved.
At least 120 days to think about the whole thing.

Labor rights need to be more differentiated and produce specific solutions for different stakeholders and sectors.
For the Chinese workers and designers who are to build the high-speed train, specific solutions from the perspective of labor law have already been proclaimed.
Specific, case-oriented implementing regulations would be appropriate.

For example:
Special work permits for the masses of Burmese, Lao and Cambodian factory workers and housemaids.
Special work permits for the workers in the tourist resorts.
Special work permits and labor rights for the many workers on the fishing boats.
Special work permits for the many foreign English teachers.
Special work permits for foreigners who want to work voluntarily.
Special work permits for foreigners who are married to Thai people. Here, foreign husbands/spouse must also be allowed to support their Thai family by working.
etc.
And the whole should be bureaucratically simple.
Thailand needs foreign workers, experts and know-how for its economic development.
It is important to legalize the many foreign workers.
Would also eliminate corruption and the traffickers.
And hard penalties for slave traders.
This requires a clear differentiation in labor legislation and not the current sledgehammer with high penalties uniform for all.

Edited June 30, 2017 by tomacht8

[rkidlad]

We've just amended the laws without any rationale and they're awful. Don't worry, I'll solve it. 

 

Like watching a dog chase its tail. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Stupid is as stupid does....

[smedly]

the reality is that every time art 44 is used it just highlights an issue that needs to be resolved , there should be no need for any articles, if something cannot get done then there needs to be change so it can get done without 44....and it is not about control, it is about having a workable process .............................that actually works....art 44 is just bypassing something that needs fixed

 

and to you the PM.............every time you use art 44 if it is not to do with criminality  and is just about bypassing good governance then you have failed and everyone will look at it as corruption

 

everything you do needs to be accountable, if you cannot be accountable when using 44 then you are no better than those before you...............corrupt

[Oziex1]

So the workers from Myanmar who were just sent  home (see other story) can now turn around return to Thailand and continue to be exploited by the Thai's 

[SOUTHERNSTAR]

First they use a decree (these decrees are normally used for security emergencies) to pass the law without civilian input and then in the same week they use S44 to undo the decree, because of a labor shortage created due to the decree. Absolute clueless, just another example of how far removed they are from reality. 

[Happyman58]

Does this mean the Thais will be doing the jobs of the immigrant workers which in my mind should be the right way to go  The only problem there is How to get the Thais to actually apply for these jobs It is called now what is that dirty word to them Again WORK

[lvr181]

The guy is a genius (?) - pity he didn't think through the issues before having the new laws enacted! DUH!

 

But, then again, this could be very clever ploy because he will be seen as the all round good guy fixing up problems. More kudos and power to the "boss". 

 

Damn, I am becoming some sort of conspiracy theorist now 

[starky]

Thailand should thank Buddha for finding such a brave, wise and noble leader as the omnipotent Mr. P. No problem too big, no problem too small, no backflip too difficult. 

[Tilacme]

The solution to bad Thai law is to put the word out that it will not be enforced and simply sweep it under the carpet along with no passengers in the back of pick ups, mini bus replacement and, no food vendors on soi, et al.  That way nobody looses face.

[Happyman58]

3 minutes ago, Tilacme said:

The solution to bad Thai law is to put the word out that it will not be enforced and simply sweep it under the carpet along with no passengers in the back of pick ups, mini bus replacement and, no food vendors on soi, et al.  That way nobody looses face.

Its like a Merry Go Round One day its in The next day its out 

[Happyman58]

7 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

So the workers from Myanmar who were just sent  home (see other story) can now turn around return to Thailand and continue to be exploited by the Thai's 

As i said a thousand times those workers are only here because Thais Hate work

[billd766]

15 hours ago, tomacht8 said:

Anyway.
I think it's a good thing that the new employment law for foreigners is / will be stopped.
Actually, only the penalties were increased and the real problem was not solved.
At least 120 days to think about the whole thing.

Labor rights need to be more differentiated and produce specific solutions for different stakeholders and sectors.
For the Chinese workers and designers who are to build the high-speed train, specific solutions from the perspective of labor law have already been proclaimed.
Specific, case-oriented implementing regulations would be appropriate.

For example:
Special work permits for the masses of Burmese, Lao and Cambodian factory workers and housemaids.
Special work permits for the workers in the tourist resorts.
Special work permits and labor rights for the many workers on the fishing boats.
Special work permits for the many foreign English teachers.
Special work permits for foreigners who want to work voluntarily.
Special work permits for foreigners who are married to Thai people. Here, foreign husbands/spouse must also be allowed to support their Thai family by working.
etc.
And the whole should be bureaucratically simple.
Thailand needs foreign workers, experts and know-how for its economic development.
It is important to legalize the many foreign workers.
Would also eliminate corruption and the traffickers.
And hard penalties for slave traders.
This requires a clear differentiation in labor legislation and not the current sledgehammer with high penalties uniform for all.

 

Thank you for a breath of fresh air and common sense among the complainers on this thread.

 

You have come up with some common sense ideas whereas the others talk and complain a lot but make no suggestions on a way out of the problem.

 

I very much doubt if any of your suggestions would even be considered by the government but at least you came up with something.