iosufm Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 I professionally trade stocks/bonds/currency for my own account and when asked in english i describe my occupation as being a "trader" or "securities trader". I don't know the equivilant of this in thai other than "len huun" which i've picked up as meaning 'play stocks'. I am wondering if there is a better translation for my profession in thai, can someone help me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loong Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Well stockmarket is Dtalaat Hun ตลาดหุ้น So could it be Person buy/sell stocks? kon seu kai hun คนซี้อขายหุ้น Just a suggestion, but it may get your meaning across Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Loong's suggestion is correct and descriptive. Still, the common term is เล่นหุ้น 'lên hûn' just like people have been telling you. In Thai, what politicians do is เล่นการเมือง 'lên kaan mueang' = 'play politics' too. Do not focus so much on the most common translation of the verb เล่น. In expressions like this, it doesn't sound quite as casual in Thai as in English. One general difference between Thai and English is that English makes more heavy use of nouns, whereas Thai uses mostly verbs. Hence, in list items stating occupation, the Thai will typically have verb phrases instead of nouns. It is of course not wrong to use a noun, but most would opt to not do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoot Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 As for being a stock trader myself, when anyone asked me what I do for earning, I would tell them that one of them is ' len hoon'- เล่นหุ้น. But if you want a formal term, then it should be นักลงทุน(investor)- nak loeng toon. For this term it's not specific only being stock trader, it can be used with investor who trades bonds and currency too. I think this term might suit with you more than len hoon which means trade stocks only. Another term is 'ซื้อขายหลักทรัพย์' (buy and sell stocks). For example, if anyone ask you what is your occupation(คุณมีอาชิพอะไร) and then you reply that you are a businessman(ผมเป็นนักธุรกิจ). They might ask you 'what kind of business(ธุรกิจอะไร)?' Then you can answer ' trade stocks business(ธุรกิจซื้อขายหลักทรัพย์)' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Posts unrelated to the Thai language were erased to avoid the the thread going off topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rai! Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I agree นักลงทุน -investor is probably the easiest way to get the message accross.. เป็นนักลงทุนในตลาดหุ้น ben nak long thoon nai dalart huun. Might do the trick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannork Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Surely with the fluctuations and at times manipulations in the Thai stock market he should be called นักพนัน ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Sounds good to me too. Very transparent and descriptive anyways. (Oops, I was referring to ITR's post although bannork has a point too ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rai! Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Surely with the fluctuations and at times manipulations in the Thai stock market he should be called นักพนัน ! Yes great point Bannork. นักพนัน makes me laugh. I teach a group of kids and at the end of some lessons I play cards with them (no money involved) just trying to get them speaking in English. 1 child came to me and said my mother doesnt want us to play cards, that I am supposed to be a teacher not a gambler! made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 You do know it is illegal to be playing cards, even without money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rai! Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 You do know it is illegal to be playing cards, even without money? yeh and it makes me laugh at the damage a game of cards can do. They are so dangerous. I know I shouldnt but it is just such an easy game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Agreed. It takes considerably less effort to be a rebel here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rai! Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 Agreed. It takes considerably less effort to be a rebel here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rikker Posted January 8, 2007 Share Posted January 8, 2007 I'm not a gambler myself, but I've heard the same things about playing cards. Supposedly the only "legal" cards are the ones produced by the Excise Department (and sold behind the counter at 7-11s, etc for 10 times the price of the illegal decks), but just what exactly is legal and illegal to do with them? Why do they sell them at 7-11 if they're so dangerous? All seems so silly.. what, they've never heard of gin rummy? Go fish? Solitaire??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In the Rai! Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I'm not a gambler myself, but I've heard the same things about playing cards. Supposedly the only "legal" cards are the ones produced by the Excise Department (and sold behind the counter at 7-11s, etc for 10 times the price of the illegal decks), but just what exactly is legal and illegal to do with them? Why do they sell them at 7-11 if they're so dangerous? All seems so silly.. what, they've never heard of gin rummy? Go fish? Solitaire??? Exactly, I only use them to play go fish etc to try and get responses to "do you have?" I am not playing black Jack. The funny thing is you can get away with riding a motor bike drunk to a party with no helmet at night (seriously injuring yourself or someone else), but when you get there you cant play cards with your friends because it encourages gambling. This is Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjackson Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 According to Langhub.com: Stock Broker นายหน้าซื้อขายหุ้น NAAI-NÂ SÊU-KĂAI HÛN The "Stock Market" lesson is available here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Doesn't นักลงทุน have a slightly negative connotation. I seem to recall one of the Bangkok Post's columnists (Sanitsuda?) using it disparagingly for someone lacking a social conscience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Hoping a native Thai will come along to answer that one Briggsy. If you are correct, does that mean that นักลงทุน is slightly disparaging while นายทุน is the neutral term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meadish_sweetball Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 According to Langhub.com:Stock Broker นายหน้าซื้อขายหุ้น NAAI-NÂ SÊU-KĂAI HÛN The "Stock Market" lesson is available here Hi mrjackson - good effort with the website, I'll definitely take a closer look. Just one thing, I noticed all instances of ซื้อ (to buy) are incorrectly transcribed with the ^ falling tone mark while it should be ´ for high tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoot Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Surely with the fluctuations and at times manipulations in the Thai stock market he should be called นักพนัน !Not quite. There are two types of stock trader. One is long term trading which interested in dividend payment and inflation of the business they invest. Another is short term trading. For short term trading there are two types of them. One invest by following the stock analysis and another is purely gambling. So, it’s not fair to take all of them as gamblers. I'm not a gambler myself, but I've heard the same things about playing cards. Supposedly the only "legal" cards are the ones produced by the Excise Department (and sold behind the counter at 7-11s, etc for 10 times the price of the illegal decks), but just what exactly is legal and illegal to do with them? Why do they sell them at 7-11 if they're so dangerous? All seems so silly.. what, they've never heard of gin rummy? Go fish? Solitaire??? It’s not always illegal for playing cards, as long as there is no money get involved or you don’t put money on the table, it’s fine. You can plays any card games such as Bridge, Solitaire, Hearts, etc. without having any problem. Doesn't นักลงทุน have a slightly negative connotation. I seem to recall one of the Bangkok Post's columnists (Sanitsuda?) using it disparagingly for someone lacking a social conscience? No, that is not true. นักลงทุน simply mean investor. There is no negative connotation for this term. But for นายทุน there is. นายทุน means capitalist, financial backer. But sometimes it’s used in the meaning of people who gain their benefit from the poor which is used as a sarcastic term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjackson Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 According to Langhub.com:Stock Broker นายหน้าซื้อขายหุ้น NAAI-NÂ SÊU-KĂAI HÛN The "Stock Market" lesson is available here Hi mrjackson - good effort with the website, I'll definitely take a closer look. Just one thing, I noticed all instances of ซื้อ (to buy) are incorrectly transcribed with the ^ falling tone mark while it should be ´ for high tone. Thanks for the compliment, but it's not my site – although I do know the guys who run it. They're quite particular about wiping out mistakes, so if you send them an e-mail (I believe there is a form on the site especially to alert them about mistakes) they'll be sure to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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