Provincial Electricity Authority Tariffs

[tomhale]

My landlord is trying to charge me 8 Baht per KWh for electricity, saying that's what he's getting charged.

 

I found some old info that says the rates should be about 4.x Baht.  The link on https://www.pea.co.th/en# goes nowhere.

 

Where can I find the current PEA Tariffs?

Note:
1. I'm after the commercial rate (as it's a "resort" with separate houses). 

2. My meter reading was 450.9 KWh.

Edited July 7, 2017 by tomhale

[shady86]

Why don't you negotiate to pay the bill directly?

[ubonjoe]

The about 4 baht is close to correct. Just calculate it using our last bill and comes out to 3.665 per unit.

The 8 baht number seems to be the standard that owners charge.

[ubonjoe]

9 minutes ago, shady86 said:

Why don't you negotiate to pay the bill directly?

Not possible since there is only one main meter for the incoming power and then individual meters for each house that the owner installed.

[KhunBENQ]

1 hour ago, tomhale said:

2. My meter reading was 450.9 KWh.

At original PEA tariff, 451 kWh would cost (rounded): 1753 Baht.

8*451 = 3608 Baht.

 

More than 1800 Baht that the landlord puts in his pockets.

A popular method to show a somewhat lower rent and cash in on utilities.

1 hour ago, tomhale said:

My landlord is trying to charge me 8 Baht per KWh for electricity, saying that's what he's getting charged.

Blatant lie.

If he's not going in for a reasonable rate you have no other chance than finding a new place with better conditions.

 

Our last bill: 445 kWh for 1795.05 Baht (house with four people).

4.03 Baht/kWh,

[ubonjoe]

20 minutes ago, KhunBENQ said:

Our last bill: 445 kWh for 1795.05 Baht (house with four people).

4.03 Baht/kWh,

I did my calculation without the fuel tariff or VAT added in.

[KhunBENQ]

3 hours ago, tomhale said:

Where can I find the current PEA Tariffs?

This is the MEA site but tariffs are identical nationwide.

Use tariff 1.2.

 

http://www.mea.or.th/en/profile/109/111

 

These are the prices before VAT and fuel surcharge.

 

EDIT: deleted

Still fighting to explain slight differences to our bill

[tomhale]

@KhunBENQ Thanks for that link - exactly what I was after.

The VAT is 7% right?

How much is fuel surcharge, and is it applied before or after VAT?

 

[KhunBENQ]

From my bill:

The fuel "surcharge" (Ft) is currently a deduction of -0.2477 Baht/kWh (due to the low oil/gas prices).

It's applied before VAT which is 7%.

 

The Ft is valid until August and will then be newly determined by some "committee".

[Windynoi]

My fuel surcharge on last months bill was -0.2477, reducing my total and then the 7% vat was added.

My usage was 786.00
My bill; 3249.50
+ 38.22 (not sure what this is, will have to check with my wife)
- -194.69 (fuel FT)
Total 3093.03
+ 7% 216.51 (vat)

Grand total 3309.54 (approx 4.21)

This is in Khon Kaen

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[KhunBENQ]

Just now, Windynoi said:

+ 38.22 (not sure what this is, will have to check with my wife)

This is the "service fee", a fixed base amount per month.

 

Just now, Windynoi said:

This is in Khon Kaen

Everywhere. Electrical power is still a state monopoly (EGAT -> MEA/PEA).

[KittenKong]

18 hours ago, tomhale said:

My landlord is trying to charge me 8 Baht per KWh for electricity, saying that's what he's getting charged.

 

I found some old info that says the rates should be about 4.x Baht.

 

The domestic tariff does indeed average around 4B/unit, though the exact amount will vary due to standing charges and also due to a different unit rate being charged according to how much you use.

 

But there are also other business rates and some owners of some rental units (notably company-owned ones) may be paying these rather than the domestic rate. These business rates have higher standing charges depending on the size of the supply. This would also be the rate applied if you are buying electricity from the building, as happens in some older condos.

 

And to confuse the issue even more there are various sub-categories of business tariff. This pdf file contains details from 2015 though I think that the tariff structure was changed last year.

 

http://aookaui.fireexit.co.th/MJUnew/pro_detail/4/Rate2015.pdf

 

In practice landlords/agents often seem to charge anything from 4B to 10B, and it seems to be based entirely on what they think they can get away with.