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31 minutes ago, 007 RED said:

The reason why they won’t allow someone to go to the ATM in the arrivals area at the airport is that they are inside Thailand.  At the arrivals immigration desk the passenger is still airside, which is technically still in ‘no-man’s land’.  If the IO did allowed the person to go to the ATM, even escorted, he/she has then allowed the person to enter Thailand without proper entry clearance, not to mention the potential risk of them doing a runner.

I just wonder why there aren’t any ATMs airside, certainly the would help alleviate the problem.  

Of course, there are (US dollar) ATM machines airside (and, once denied, you are allowed to visit them). They are just not available in the corridor between the gate and incoming immigration.

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20 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

given the asian mindset, probably not….they will probably march you to an atm in the arrival area, make you withdraw 20K and wave it in their face.

you cant expect them to perform laterally…only literally

quite a few reports saying they wont even let you go show them at an ATM. if they single you out for too many entries and you dont have cash on you then it is just an excuse to stop entry.  i will bring a couple thousand US$ when i come over in sept. hope that will do it.

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Is there the possibility that they may deny if you carry cash in a currency they do not see often (pesos, liars,etc) or if in large denominations (1000 chf, 500 eur).

 

If they accepted the 1000 chf note then it would be easy to permanently keep one in passport purely for IO.

 

I'm concerned they may start to insist it has to be THB.

 

also do visa elite people need to show cash when coming in?

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6 hours ago, BritTim said:

http://www.suvarnabhumiairport.com/en/896-atm-suvarnabhumi-airport

 

This is a mix of those airside and elsewhere. Note that passengers in the transit area (and those departing once through immigration) can only withdraw US dollars.

As you mentioned in an earlier post (#8), there are no ATMs between the arrivals gate and arrivals immigration, all of the airside ATMs are in the departure area which most arriving passengers will not have access to.

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6 hours ago, BritTim said:

http://www.suvarnabhumiairport.com/en/896-atm-suvarnabhumi-airport

 

This is a mix of those airside and elsewhere. Note that passengers in the transit area (and those departing once through immigration) can only withdraw US dollars.

As you mentioned in an earlier post (#8), there are no ATMs between the arrivals gate and arrivals immigration, all of the airside ATMs are in the departure area which most arriving passengers will not have access to.

I am not disputing that. I was responding to someone who said immigration could not escort you to an ATM machine because that would involve letting you into the country. It is hard not to conclude that the lack of ATM machines for arriving passengers is a deliberate ploy to give control over withdrawing money to immigration.

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16 minutes ago, JayBird said:

Is there the possibility that they may deny if you carry cash in a currency they do not see often (pesos, liars,etc) or if in large denominations (1000 chf, 500 eur).

 

If they accepted the 1000 chf note then it would be easy to permanently keep one in passport purely for IO.

Right now, I am pretty sure Swiss francs and euros would be fine. I would not risk Mexican pesos which definitely cannot be converted at the exchange booths in the arrival area, and are hard to exchange anywhere in Thailand.

Of course, what rules immigration might invent in the future is unknowable.

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13 minutes ago, JayBird said:

Is there the possibility that they may deny if you carry cash in a currency they do not see often (pesos, liars,etc) or if in large denominations (1000 chf, 500 eur).

If they accepted the 1000 chf note then it would be easy to permanently keep one in passport purely for IO.

I'm concerned they may start to insist it has to be THB.

also do visa elite people need to show cash when coming in?

It the currency appears on a Thai banks list of currencies that can be exchanged then it would be accepted. For example this list: http://www.bangkokbank.com/BangkokBank/WebServices/Rates/Pages/FX_Rates.aspx

As long the denomination is equal to or greater than 20k baht it would be accepted.

At a airport they will certainly accept other currency than Bant. There have been reports of a crossing from Malaysia insisting on seeing baht.

I don't think a person with a Thai Elite PE visa would be asked to show it.

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6 hours ago, JayBird said:

Is there the possibility that they may deny if you carry cash in a currency they do not see often (pesos, liars,etc) or if in large denominations (1000 chf, 500 eur).

 

If they accepted the 1000 chf note then it would be easy to permanently keep one in passport purely for IO.

 

I'm concerned they may start to insist it has to be THB.

 

also do visa elite people need to show cash when coming in?

I have an Elite Visa and have never been ask for cash. Also the concierge escorts you through immigration. They do a background check before you can be accepted into the Thailand Elite program. It took a week or two after I applied (not sure what they check). I assume that if you can afford it 20000 THB isn't an issue.

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29 minutes ago, reallybigken said:

I have an Elite Visa and have never been ask for cash. Also the concierge escorts you through immigration. They do a background check before you can be accepted into the Thailand Elite program. It took a week or two after I applied (not sure what they check). I assume that if you can afford it 20000 THB isn't an issue.

I think the check is mostly AML (anti money laundering) that occurs pretty much any time significant sums of money are involved. Online systems for expedited AML have recently appeared, but it is no surprise that Thailand Elite would take a week or two to get it done.

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5 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

had i a thai  debit cash card loaded with 20 k baht , would the io let me in ???

 

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Unlikely, as they want to see cash or travellers cheques, how could they verify that it is 'loaded' ?

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7 hours ago, JayBird said:

I'm concerned they may start to insist it has to be THB.

If immigration were to start to insist on seeing it in THB, then there are exchange booths that are available prior to going through immigration, so worse case you would have to go and change the other currency first, it is highly unlikely that they would ever insist on THB only, as I'm sure that even immigration realise the importance of an influx of foreign currency, having said that though, the exchange booths on the air side of immigration could make an absolute fortune!!!!

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On 7/17/2017 at 1:26 PM, 007 RED said:

The reason why they won’t allow someone to go to the ATM in the arrivals area at the airport is that they are inside Thailand.  At the arrivals immigration desk the passenger is still airside, which is technically still in ‘no-man’s land’.  If the IO did allowed the person to go to the ATM, even escorted, he/she has then allowed the person to enter Thailand without proper entry clearance, not to mention the potential risk of them doing a runner.

I just wonder why there aren’t any ATMs airside, certainly the would help alleviate the problem.  

Reports of people being denied at land crossings as well, such as Padang Besar.

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On 7/17/2017 at 2:01 PM, BritTim said:

Of course, there are (US dollar) ATM machines airside (and, once denied, you are allowed to visit them). They are just not available in the corridor between the gate and incoming immigration.

Well apparently they also offer Euros and UK pounds. But why not also offer Thai Baht, which is the currency of Thailand?

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7 hours ago, jimster said:

Well apparently they also offer Euros and UK pounds. But why not also offer Thai Baht, which is the currency of Thailand?

I speculate that this is because export of Thai baht is restricted (see http://www.doingbusinessthailand.com/blog-thailand/doing-business-in-thailand/bank-accounts-thailand/thailand-bank-foreign-exchange-control-regulations.html and read Local Currency Restriction). When traveling to most countries, travelers are limited to taking out 50,000 baht.

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On 7/17/2017 at 11:00 PM, ThaiWai said:

One would need to ensure his daily withdrawal allowance was high enough as well.

And, depending on your bank or institution, some may refuse the transaction, judging it as suspicious.  They may send you a text on your phone, which like me you may not get because my USA phone and account won't be used in Thailand.

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