'I will keep fighting,' Yingluck says in Facebook post

[webfact]

 'I will keep fighting,' Yingluck says in Facebook post 

By The Nation

 

Photo from Yingluck Shinawatra Facebook page.

 

BANGKOK: -- Yingluck Shinawatra has taken to Facebook to say she will continue to fight to prove her innocence in the negligence court case against, apparently in response to the government’s move to block her supporters and seize her assets.

The verdict in the negligent case, relating to the her then-government’s rice-pledging scheme, will be read on August 25.

 

“I did not do anything wrong,” the ex-premier said on her Facebook. “What I can say is that I’m still strong, and ready to fight to prove my innocence.”

 

Yingluck said she wanted to speak out to reflect the current effort to “create a condition” before the court rules on her case.

 

She implicated the government in that effort, because she believes that it might think that it has the power and has not taken into consideration her petitioning the Administrative Court to halt the attempt to seize her assets. 

 

Yingluck said she will speak candidly about the matter on August 1, and she aimed to do her best in response to it.

 

She said she will use her supporters’ moral support to bolster her own strength and tolerance in the face of the ongoing trial.

 

High-ranking officials, including Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha, have warned Yingluck supporters against mobilising when the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders delivers its verdict next month. 

 

Prayut said anyone who planned to mobilise in Bangkok should be aware that doing so would be illegal. 

 

“Such an act is against the law. You may not face legal action immediately but you can’t escape it eventually. The law is still the law,” he said. 

 

“You may like or love anyone as you please. But you don’t need to cause trouble for other people while doing so.”

 

His remarks came amid concerns about an attempt to mobilise large numbers of people from the provinces to gather at the court for the verdict.

 

The Department of Legal Execution, meanwhile, is eyeing seizing 12 of Yingluck’s bank accounts in the first civil liability action against her.

 

While the Finance Ministry, representing the government as the plaintiff in the case, is also pursuing other assets belonging to the ex-premier. 

 

The asset seizure attempts are being conducted in accordance with the civil liability committee’s resolution for Yingluck to pay Bt35 billion in compensation to the state to cover heavy losses in the rice-pledging scheme, estimated at several hundred billion baht.

 

Yingluck has been charged with criminal negligence for allegedly failing to stop irregularities stemming from the rice-pledging scheme.

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30321732

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-07-25

[sweatalot]

yeah - who would not fight for their money honestly gotten or not

[sujoop]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

“I did not do anything wrong,” the ex-premier said on her Facebook.

More poor, poor Pou (Yingluck)... Meanwhile, the poorest farmers weren't even part of the rice scheme... The program was a fraud from the outset. Here's a sample from rice scheme corruption cases - a fictional China deal which links a red-shirt leader,  a Yingluck/Pheu Thai party MP and a Thaksin insider:
 

Dummy firm tied to govt figures
*Guangzhou-based GSSG Import and Export Corporation, was actually represented by a Thai man called Rathanit Sojirakul, who later authorised Phichit-based Nimon Rakdi to (sign) a contract to purchase 5 million tonnes of rice on the company’s behalf. ...Rathanit was a close aide to Pheu Thai MP Rapeephan Phongruangrong, who is the wife of red-shirt leader Arisman Phongruangrong. ...Rathanit, who claimed to be the authorised representative of the Chinese firm, only has Bt64.63 in his bank account...
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/politics/aec/30195106
 

Notable comment from Yingluck's (Thaksin's) Commerce minister:
“(After buying the rice) I won’t be investigating what buyers do with it,” he said.

So, Yingluck + Commerce Minister obviously were not interested in investigating their corruption laden program but some may ask, what happened to the rice in this supposedly innocent 'normal subsidy' deal?
 

*The G-to-G deal was a fake because no rice was exported to the Chinese firm. Instead, the huge amount of milled rice was sold locally at below market price by the Foreign Trade Department to a ghost buyer who then sold the rice at market price to the two Thai firms which have their own rice mills and later on the same amount of rice were pledged with the government at pledging prices which are about 40 percent above market price. The gang, it was alleged, made double profits from the same amount of rice.
http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-yingluck-probed-connection-fake-rice-deal/
 

'Nimon previously worked at President Agri Trading, a company that was found to have been involved in shady dealings under a rice price-pledging scheme launched in 2003-2004 during Thaksin Shinawatra’s administration.  President Agri is connected to Apichart’s Siam Indica, which was also involved in the scam in 2004'.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/aec/30195106
 

Floods and Rice scheme, connect the dots:

Besides 'losing' multi-billions in the rice scheme, there was also another significant loss event caused by the very same Thaksin program re-launch under Yingluck in 2011. The Democrat Govt advised against planting a 3rd rice crop in the basin but Yingluck's Govt encouraged it to kick off the new rice scheme program (and ordered dams NOT to release water so those same farmers could harvest rice in the basin and plain areas:
 

November 11, 2011

“Decision to delay the release of water from the country's major dams had been made by the government”
('so that farmers could harvest their crops first')
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/aec/30169695
 

And finally this chestnut, the 1st of many attempts to free Thaksin came amidst those same floods:
 

As floods wreak havoc on Thailand, government sneaks in a plan to bring Thaksin Shinawatra home?
Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, who chaired Tuesday's Cabinet meeting, from which Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra was conspicuously absence, waved off reporters, saying he would address the issue when he is at Parliament Wednesday afternoon. Media reports said that during a high-confidential Cabinet forum Tuesday limited to only a handful numbers of ministers and officials, it was decided that people convicted of corruption would be entitled to receive this year amnesty.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/aec/30170004
 

Back to the current matter - there's a civil liability law which is designed to protect state officials against liability , 'unless they were found to have deliberately violated the laws',  or *to be  found in gross negligence of duty*. Unfortunately Yingluck went along with 'Thaksin speaks - Puea Thai does'. The result was turning a blind eye to multi-billion $$ plunder, therefore guilty of 'gross negligence of duty' as charged, which is NOT excused under the civil liability law.
 

Yet despite obvious malfeasance, massive losses in a rice program which poorest farmers had NO stake in,  plus acerbated floods directly by closing dams to get ill advised rice crops in (to kick off rice scheme)  and then under the cloak of floods, try to sneak in an amnesty for Thaksin, many on this forum still go on saying 'Way to go Yingluck,'....

[ratcatcher]

                                                                                        

[webfact]

Former Thai PM Yingluck questions junta move to freeze bank accounts

 

Ousted former Thai prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra greets supporters as she arrives at the Supreme Court in Bangkok, Thailand, July 21, 2017. REUTERS/Athit Perawongmetha

 

BANGKOK (Reuters) - Former Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra on Tuesday questioned a move by Thailand's military government to freeze her assets in relation to a $1 billion fine it imposed over her government's rice buying scheme.

 

Yingluck, whose administration was ousted in a 2014 coup, was banned from politics for five years in 2015 after a military-appointed legislature found her guilty of mismanaging the rice scheme.

 

Yingluck denies she is guilty. Her supporters accuse her opponents of political persecution and the courts of bias in frequently ruling against Yingluck and her family members.

 

Last year, a state-appointed committee recommended she pay a 35 billion baht ($1 billion) fine or about 20 percent of the 178 billion baht that it said the schemes cost the state in 2012 and 2013.

 

The justice ministry on Monday began freezing several of her bank accounts.

 

She had filed a court petition to revoke the action to freeze her bank accounts saying the move was unlawful.

 

"The government has chosen to go ahead with it because they think they have the power to do whatever they want, without even waiting on the court's decision on my injunction request," Yingluck wrote on her official Facebook page, adding that she would continue the fight to prove her innocence.

 

Yingluck is currently fighting a criminal charge for alleged negligence over the rice scheme. The Supreme Court is due to give its verdict on Aug. 25.

 

"This action creates a condition that could influence the Supreme Court decision on the rice case," Yingluck wrote, referring to the criminal case.

 

Yingluck's Puea Thai Party swept to power in 2011 in part by appealing to rural voters with the rice buying scheme which eventually saw her government buy rice from farmers at up to 50 percent above market prices which resulted in 18 million tonnes of the grain in stockpiles, which the military government has been trying to offload since 2014.

 

The military-backed Bangkok establishment, which took part in protests in 2013/14 that helped to overthrow the Yingluck government, called the subsidies wasteful and corrupt.

 

Her supporters say the ruling junta has deliberately targeted Yingluck and wants to silence her family's political machine.

 

Voters in the northeast told Reuters earlier this month that the trial against Yingluck had failed to break her family's political machine.

 

Yingluck will deliver her closing statement in the criminal case against her next week.

 

(Reporting by Panu Wongcha-um, Patpicha Tanakasempipat and Panarat Thepgumpanat; Editing by Amy Sawitta Lefevre and Michael Perry)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-07-25

[JAG]

Its a really difficult choice isn't it....             Elected

By the votes of the Thai people.

or   (self) appointed, by the guns of the military...

 

 

 

Edited July 25, 2017 by JAG

[tracker1]

Concerns about an attempt to mobilise large numbers of people from the provinces to gather at the court for the verdict. No doubt someone will mobilise the troops to counter for a gathering with more then 5 persons ! Interesting times

[Jim1000]

Putting party politics aside  , seems to me she had the looks and verty  polite  Thai  manner and could have been a great
 for Thailand on the world stage .

 

Instead , being weak , she  was forced into an attempt to   corner the rice market  - the supposed benefit to the rice farmers

was secondary to this .

 

This was doomed  to fail   - as Bunker Hunt  said , a  billion dollars aint what it used  to  be !

Wonder who the real " geniuses  ' behind this caper were ?
 

 

[seajae]

problem is she has never had to take responsibility her whole life, everyone else does it for her, now all the chickens have come home to roost she refuses to accept it all rest with her, she was in charge, she never did anything to stop the fraud pointed out but simply let her ministers etc rip the country off. The evidence is all that is important here not her sob stories

 

[Freed1948]

Why does anybody need 12 [or more?] bank accounts?

[AGareth2]

can't they wait for the court decision before they rob her?

[JAG]

23 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Pictures speak a thousand words.

Yes, how does it go?

 

"Is that a draft of the new constitution in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me?"

[sweatalot]

16 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

can't they wait for the court decision before they rob her?

 

"rob her"

come on

[NCC1701A]

1 hour ago, Freed1948 said:

Why does anybody need 12 [or more?] bank accounts?

people with a lot of money need many bank accounts.

 

I have six as an example.

 

I had a girlfriend in Los Angeles who carried $20,000 in cash with her everywhere she went. She had $10 million in the bank.

[kannot]

27 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

people with a lot of money need many bank accounts.

 

I have six as an example.

 

I had a girlfriend in Los Angeles who carried $20,000 in cash with her everywhere she went. She had $10 million in the bank.

Thats  only one account, what was in the other........s

[NCFC]

More poor, poor Pou (Yingluck)... Meanwhile, the poorest farmers weren't even part of the rice scheme... The program was a fraud from the outset. Here's a sample from rice scheme corruption cases - a fictional China deal which links a red-shirt leader,  a Yingluck/Pheu Thai party MP and a Thaksin insider:
 
Dummy firm tied to govt figures
*Guangzhou-based GSSG Import and Export Corporation, was actually represented by a Thai man called Rathanit Sojirakul, who later authorised Phichit-based Nimon Rakdi to (sign) a contract to purchase 5 million tonnes of rice on the company’s behalf. ...Rathanit was a close aide to Pheu Thai MP Rapeephan Phongruangrong, who is the wife of red-shirt leader Arisman Phongruangrong. ...Rathanit, who claimed to be the authorised representative of the Chinese firm, only has Bt64.63 in his bank account...
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/politics/aec/30195106
 
Notable comment from Yingluck's (Thaksin's) Commerce minister:
“(After buying the rice) I won’t be investigating what buyers do with it,” he said.
So, Yingluck + Commerce Minister obviously were not interested in investigating their corruption laden program but some may ask, what happened to the rice in this supposedly innocent 'normal subsidy' deal?
 
*The G-to-G deal was a fake because no rice was exported to the Chinese firm. Instead, the huge amount of milled rice was sold locally at below market price by the Foreign Trade Department to a ghost buyer who then sold the rice at market price to the two Thai firms which have their own rice mills and later on the same amount of rice were pledged with the government at pledging prices which are about 40 percent above market price. The gang, it was alleged, made double profits from the same amount of rice.
http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-yingluck-probed-connection-fake-rice-deal/
 
'Nimon previously worked at President Agri Trading, a company that was found to have been involved in shady dealings under a rice price-pledging scheme launched in 2003-2004 during Thaksin Shinawatra’s administration.  President Agri is connected to Apichart’s Siam Indica, which was also involved in the scam in 2004'.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/aec/30195106
 
Floods and Rice scheme, connect the dots:
Besides 'losing' multi-billions in the rice scheme, there was also another significant loss event caused by the very same Thaksin program re-launch under Yingluck in 2011. The Democrat Govt advised against planting a 3rd rice crop in the basin but Yingluck's Govt encouraged it to kick off the new rice scheme program (and ordered dams NOT to release water so those same farmers could harvest rice in the basin and plain areas:
 
November 11, 2011
“Decision to delay the release of water from the country's major dams had been made by the government”
('so that farmers could harvest their crops first')
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/aec/30169695
 
And finally this chestnut, the 1st of many attempts to free Thaksin came amidst those same floods:
 
As floods wreak havoc on Thailand, government sneaks in a plan to bring Thaksin Shinawatra home?
Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, who chaired Tuesday's Cabinet meeting, from which Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra was conspicuously absence, waved off reporters, saying he would address the issue when he is at Parliament Wednesday afternoon. Media reports said that during a high-confidential Cabinet forum Tuesday limited to only a handful numbers of ministers and officials, it was decided that people convicted of corruption would be entitled to receive this year amnesty.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/aec/30170004
 
Back to the current matter - there's a civil liability law which is designed to protect state officials against liability , 'unless they were found to have deliberately violated the laws',  or *to be  found in gross negligence of duty*. Unfortunately Yingluck went along with 'Thaksin speaks - Puea Thai does'. The result was turning a blind eye to multi-billion $$ plunder, therefore guilty of 'gross negligence of duty' as charged, which is NOT excused under the civil liability law.
 
Yet despite obvious malfeasance, massive losses in a rice program which poorest farmers had NO stake in,  plus acerbated floods directly by closing dams to get ill advised rice crops in (to kick off rice scheme)  and then under the cloak of floods, try to sneak in an amnesty for Thaksin, many on this forum still go on saying 'Way to go Yingluck,'....

It's amazing how you've got all that back story, links and even dates all stored tidily away.

Makes me wonder what your 'interest' really is.

[inThailand]

2 hours ago, sweatalot said:

 

"rob her"

come on

who's robbing who?

[bangrak]

'I will keep fighting', 'I did nothing wrong': when you would have been fighting, while you were supposed to be in charge, in the way most Thai women have to do, with common sense and hard work, to reach the end of each month, you wouldn't be where you are today, and when you pretend to have done nothing wrong, even for a privileged rich girl, it is no excuse, you were the PM, for heaven's sake, why do you think even when you did nothing at all (erm ...) you would not be responsible for what the people under your command(!) did wrong, are you that silly, or are you playing your part in a dirty game to raise havoc via your family's red militia?

By the way, you didn't forget you're banned from all political activities, don't you, or are the ones pulling your strings pushing to get you involved in a new court case...?

[bangrak]

1 hour ago, NCFC said:

It's amazing how you've got all that back story, links and even dates all stored tidily away.

Makes me wonder what your 'interest' really is.

The hypocrisy of some people... They always cry murder when someone posts an opinion different of theirs, and always demand proof, sources, links , etc. (they mostly don't provide themselves NB). And now that 'sujoop' hands it all over on a platter, you are twisted enough to serve him that s..t comment?

I have no doubt what your 'interest' really is, NCFC, nor that of JAG or that <deleted> guy who both liked your post, or that of the members of the Shins' propaganda brigade here.

[Prbkk]

The double speak from Prayuth is astonishing even by his own lofty standards : " you may like or love who you wish but don't cause inconvenience to others".....says the man who gave tacit support to Suthep, the crazed monk , and their assorted thugs, in the massive disruption/inconvenience during the anti-government protests in 2013/14; and to the lunatic yellow fanatics during the airport siege in the years before that. 

Today's turkey is tomorrow's feather duster.

[grego49]

Well said sujoop  gives us all in insite into the real fraud.

[inThailand]

Please send the cliff notes of these long and boring posts.

[Squeegee]

1 hour ago, bangrak said:

The hypocrisy of some people... They always cry murder when someone posts an opinion different of theirs, and always demand proof, sources, links , etc. (they mostly don't provide themselves NB). And now that 'sujoop' hands it all over on a platter, you are twisted enough to serve him that s..t comment?

I have no doubt what your 'interest' really is, NCFC, nor that of JAG or that <deleted> guy who both liked your post, or that of the members of the Shins' propaganda brigade here.

It's a fair point, like an oasis in a desert, or a single strand of grass on a sun-baked lake bed, but a fair point it remains, standing all reasonable and alone.

[Throatwobbler]

1 hour ago, bangrak said:

The hypocrisy of some people... They always cry murder when someone posts an opinion different of theirs, and always demand proof, sources, links , etc. (they mostly don't provide themselves NB). And now that 'sujoop' hands it all over on a platter, you are twisted enough to serve him that s..t comment?

I have no doubt what your 'interest' really is, NCFC, nor that of JAG or that <deleted> guy who both liked your post, or that of the members of the Shins' propaganda brigade here.

Oh the boring Shin propaganda claim. Why not not let the Thais vote and choose their own leader. One person one vote. Would you like an election or are you scared that the Thai people would choose different to you.

 

[canuckamuck]

Of course the judges will be told. We already took her money so don't make us look bad and have to give it back now.

 

 

[JAG]

The hypocrisy of some people... They always cry murder when someone posts an opinion different of theirs, and always demand proof, sources, links , etc. (they mostly don't provide themselves NB). And now that 'sujoop' hands it all over on a platter, you are twisted enough to serve him that s..t comment?
I have no doubt what your 'interest' really is, NCFC, nor that of JAG or that guy who both liked your post, or that of the members of the Shins' propaganda brigade here.

Ah, guilt by " liking a post"!
Now where have I heard that before?

[wirat69]

17 hours ago, sujoop said:

acerbated floods

Edited July 26, 2017 by wirat69
Correction

[williamgeorgeallen]

14 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

people with a lot of money need many bank accounts.

 

I have six as an example.

 

I had a girlfriend in Los Angeles who carried $20,000 in cash with her everywhere she went. She had $10 million in the bank.

it is good to have an account for each property and each business venture. makes life simple come tax time.

yingluck was making US$50 000/year so she probably has many more than 12 bank accounts. thats serious investment capital.

[Baerboxer]

“I did not do anything wrong,” the ex-premier said on her Facebook. How many times have we heard that? Seems to be the family mantra.

 

Yet, still no attempt to explain how appointing herself to be the Chair, never bothering to actually attend and chair the meetings, ignoring all warnings about the scheme, treating people who gave warnings with scorn etc etc was actually managing things properly.

 

She also said 'the farmers will be paid next week"- and they weren't; and repeatedly said that she and only she was in charge.

 

So far AFAIK and can see, she hasn't offered one single explanation other than a denial of doing anything wrong.

[Baerboxer]

14 hours ago, NCFC said:

It's amazing how you've got all that back story, links and even dates all stored tidily away.

Makes me wonder what your 'interest' really is.

 

Perhaps he's used to a certain cadre who deny, deny, and deny those things happened. One or two of whom always ask for references?

 

Presumably you don't deny them then?