Anger at acquittal of ex-PMs

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Typical red response.. if it goes our way its encouraging.. if it goes an other way its political.

 

Same like.. if someone is guilty and we can't deny the facts we call it political.

 

It gets a bit boring. 

 

Spot on Rob. 

 

The attempted excusing of all and every charge as "political" is now the habit. 

 

Wonder if some posters will claim the Krungthai Bank fraud was political? 

[Baerboxer]

3 minutes ago, heybruce said:

In viewing the Supreme Court's rationale   https://assets.thaivisa.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2017_08/9f28c42d5a10c5e35f8d4799e64f8167.jpg.080da4f92653826985e1c4a42ee211d5.jpg  it seems they could not convict these defendants without leaving Abhisit and company open to conviction for the actions taken against protesters in 2010.

 

In this case, to be fair, the force used and response to the specific situation was reasonable. None of the defendants or any police officers could have known the tear gas canisters were likely to explode.

 

Seems to be a correct verdict.

[halloween]

26 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

In this case, to be fair, the force used and response to the specific situation was reasonable. None of the defendants or any police officers could have known the tear gas canisters were likely to explode.

 

Seems to be a correct verdict.

Police officers should have known the nature of the ordnance they were using. Use of ordnance against protesters without prior training and familiarisation is reckless endangerment at least. Continued use after it became obvious that serious casualties were being caused is even more serious.

somebody ordered the use of that particular ordnance by untrained troops, IMHO they have a case to answer.

[ramrod711]

11 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

 

They charged one who had already resigned. Just happened to be a relative of Prayuths nemises, Thaksin.

 

What sort of imbeciles are running this country? Worse still supporting them?

Poor Somchai, he was only P M to support the family "business". He may have preferred conviction, now he has to go back to his wife, the least lovely Shinawatra.

[Baerboxer]

Just now, halloween said:

Police officers should have known the nature of the ordnance they were using. Use of ordnance against protesters without prior training and familiarisation is reckless endangerment at least. Continued use after it became obvious that serious casualties were being caused is even more serious.

somebody ordered the use of that particular ordnance by untrained troops, IMHO they have a case to answer.

 

Do you know that for a fact? That the officers were not trained in the use of firing tear gas? That even after firing canisters which exploded splattering shrapnel around, the officers continued firing more? That someone specifically selected that brand and instructed it be fired?

 

If so, then you have a point. But all that should have been investigated at the time. And ensuring that was the case would be the responsibility of the government of the day.

[joecoolfrog]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Typical red response.. if it goes our way its encouraging.. if it goes an other way its political.

 

Same like.. if someone is guilty and we can't deny the facts we call it political.

 

It gets a bit boring. 

And I could just as easily say typical Rob remark , did you fail to notice that this thread highlights Yellow shirt whining ? Both sides , and their blinkered supporters , are equally at fault , they are all a bunch of hypocrites.

[robblok]

Just now, NanLaew said:

I reckon when they acquit Yingluck, you will be inconsolable.

Why ? Does not affect me personally. I don't lose any sleep over it. I like the debate. 

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

And I could just as easily say typical Rob remark , did you fail to notice that this thread highlights Yellow shirt whining ? Both sides , and their blinkered supporters , are equally at fault , they are all a bunch of hypocrites.

yes the yellow shirts are whining, but I agree with this verdict.. seems totally fair to me. How many yellow supporters here do you see whining about the verdict.. I guess none.. I have yet to see a red supporter agree with anything that goes against one of their own.

Edited August 3, 2017 by robblok

[halloween]

6 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Do you know that for a fact? That the officers were not trained in the use of firing tear gas? That even after firing canisters which exploded splattering shrapnel around, the officers continued firing more? That someone specifically selected that brand and instructed it be fired?

 

If so, then you have a point. But all that should have been investigated at the time. And ensuring that was the case would be the responsibility of the government of the day.

http://www.newmandala.org/tear-gas-grenades-in-bangkok-on-7-october-2008/

 

The government of the day had no interest in investigating its own crimes.

Edited August 3, 2017 by halloween

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Leaving aside politics in that's possible here...

 

If memory serves, I think there was an issue in this crackdown in the type of tear gas cannisters the police used -- ones that had previously been identified as unsafe and having the potential to cause those kinds of serious bodily injuries.

[Baerboxer]

2 minutes ago, halloween said:

http://www.newmandala.org/tear-gas-grenades-in-bangkok-on-7-october-2008/

 

Oh dear. Another buggers'muddle by the look of it.

 

First question would be why use Border Patrol Police, who won't have, and didn't have according to the article, training in riot control, the equipment and specifically the tear gas? And the inquiry should have progressed from there.

 

Was a full inquiry instigated by the government of the day?

 

Just out of interest, were those injured and bereaved families generously compensated?

[Ricardo]

47 minutes ago, Reigntax said:

 

They charged one who had already resigned. Just happened to be a relative of Prayuths nemises, Thaksin.

 

Is former-PM & then-DPM Chavalit related to Thaksin ?  He's the one of those four accused, who had resigned on the morning of the incident, seeing where events were leading and not wishing to get blamed for it.   

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chavalit_Yongchaiyudh

 

I think it may be former-PM Somchai Wongsawat, who is married to Thaksin's sister Yaowapha, that you're actually thinking of ?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somchai_Wongsawat

 

He was another of the accused, and who has now just been aquitted.

 

 

[Khun Han]

The response by yellow shirt leader Katasila (shouldn't he be serving time?) is straight out of the Mad Hatter's Tea Party .

[Khun Han]

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

In viewing the Supreme Court's rationale   https://assets.thaivisa.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2017_08/9f28c42d5a10c5e35f8d4799e64f8167.jpg.080da4f92653826985e1c4a42ee211d5.jpg  it seems they could not convict these defendants without leaving Abhisit and company open to conviction for the actions taken against protesters in 2010.

 

Bingo!

[metisdead]

More that 60 off topic posts and replies about Yingluck, the rice scheme, the budget under Yingluck have been removed.  This is what this topic is about:

 

BANGKOK: -- YELLOW-SHIRT leaders have called on the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) to appeal yesterday’s acquittal of four defendants in a case stemming from the fatal 2008 crackdown.

 

Back on topic please. 

[baboon]

1 hour ago, metisdead said:

More that 60 off topic posts and replies about Yingluck, the rice scheme, the budget under Yingluck have been removed.  This is what this topic is about:

 

BANGKOK: -- YELLOW-SHIRT leaders have called on the National Anti-Corruption Commission (NACC) to appeal yesterday’s acquittal of four defendants in a case stemming from the fatal 2008 crackdown.

 

Back on topic please. 

What fun it must (not) be to moderate these threads...

Edited August 4, 2017 by baboon

[Ricardo]

On 03/08/2017 at 2:48 PM, halloween said:

http://www.newmandala.org/tear-gas-grenades-in-bangkok-on-7-october-2008/

 

The government of the day had no interest in investigating its own crimes.

 

If it's possible to have a 'political prosecution', as many posters claim happens frequently, would this be a good example of a  'political investigation' , one that doesn't happen because of what it might find & who it might blame, do you think ?

[metisdead]

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