Australia looks forward to return of democracy in Thailand

[anon789561]

where we decided to live is in my opinion one of the best places in the world. we can make miserable people happy. ive seen it so many times

[joeyg]

1 minute ago, Happy enough said:

where we decided to live is in my opinion one of the best places in the world. we can make miserable people happy. ive seen it so many times

I don't understand.

[anon789561]

Just now, joeyg said:

I don't understand.

go to eat some nice food and perhaps stop for a massage and tell me you're not happy

[joeyg]

Just now, Happy enough said:

go to eat some nice food and perhaps stop for a massage and tell me you're not happy

I've already done that today.  I was happy before that.  Now I'm just more relaxed.

[balo]

I thnk Prayut is the answer , he "is " democracy .

Just let him have the job for 20 years. That's what he wants.

  

 

[anon789561]

1 minute ago, balo said:

I thnk Prayut is the answer , he "is " democracy .

Just let him have the job for 20 years. That's what he wants.

  

 

yes. your sarcasm holds many truths. maybe a year or 2 as promised?

[anon789561]

let's think logically. ok. take me out of the equation because I'm a royalist and a supporter of the military. what is your other option? there isn't one for now. so, wait. maybe i'm crazy? don't think so

[JigaloJack]

53 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

let's think logically. ok. take me out of the equation because I'm a royalist and a supporter of the military. what is your other option? there isn't one for now. so, wait. maybe i'm crazy? don't think so

No, there is another option - let all the people of Thailand decide what they want for their country.

[BasalBanality]

1 minute ago, JigaloJack said:

No, there is another option - let all the people of Thailand decide what they want for their country.

Haven't the Thais decided? Looking at the current state of affairs, one would conclude its been decided a couple of administrations ago.

[JigaloJack]

8 minutes ago, BasalBanality said:

Haven't the Thais decided? Looking at the current state of affairs, one would conclude its been decided a couple of administrations ago.

A few, backed by the military's guns, have decided for the many - an unsustainable situation.

Edited August 7, 2017 by JigaloJack

[BasalBanality]

Just now, JigaloJack said:

A few have decided for the many - an unsustainable situation.

The Thais exhibited indifference over different administrations, no reasons for change now.

[InMyShadow]

On 8/5/2017 at 8:09 PM, JAG said:

The Thai people should get the government which they select, not the one which the entrenched wealthy elite impose , and the one which you take it upon yourself to claim they deserve.

 

The Thai people have lost personal and political freedoms. Today there are reports of an opposition activist being tried in a secret court, in camera and with the evidence being kept secret. That rather suggests a significant loss of personal and political freedom.

 

I am delighted that the junta has made zero difference to you or your girlfriend or her friends. That doesn't mean. that they haven't made a difference to the lives of other people.  No farangs have been dragged into the woods and shot. No Thais have either, but plenty have been detained, ""threatened (because that is what "attitude adjustment" is) and some tried by military courts and imprisoned.

 

The Junta do not scare me, and I have no intention of leaving, not least because that would mean abandoning my family. "Drama queen"? Is that the best epithet you can muster for someone with whom you disagree?

nonsense you quote one rumor about an activist lol. get real 99.9999% of thais are unaffected and 100% of farang are unaffected.

There will never be a real democracy here, deal with it, accept it!

Is it really worth living a country under a government you despise , possibly in power for another 10 years? Why not take your family to your own nanny state. Not worth the stress and your post I see a stressed person...remember health first!

[JigaloJack]

Just now, BasalBanality said:

The Thais exhibited indifference over different administrations, no reasons for change now.

The Yellows certainly weren't indifferent in 2005-06, 2008 and 2013-14

And the reds certainly weren't indifferent in 2010

And there was also little indifferent shown by all in 1973, 1976 and 1992

 

As for the current administration - is it indifference or fear be exhibited?

[BasalBanality]

1 minute ago, JigaloJack said:

The Yellows certainly weren't indifferent in 2005-06, 2008 and 2013-14

And the reds certainly weren't indifferent in 2010

And there was also little indifferent shown by all in 1973, 1976 and 1992

 

As for the current administration - is it indifference or fear be exhibited?

If all that historic lack of indifference accounted to anything, it certainly isn't reflected in the state of affairs today?

 

Indifference seems apt.

[JigaloJack]

6 minutes ago, InMyShadow said:

nonsense you quote one rumor about an activist lol. get real 99.9999% of thais are unaffected and 100% of farang are unaffected.

There will never be a real democracy here, deal with it, accept it!

Is it really worth living a country under a government you despise , possibly in power for another 10 years? Why not take your family to your own nanny state. Not worth the stress and your post I see a stressed person...remember health first!

Not sure you're correct about 99.9999% of thais not being affected.

 

http://thediplomat.com/2016/10/torture-under-thailands-military-junta/

https://prachatai.com/english/node/7296

http://prachatai.org/english/node/6178

https://prachatai.com/english/node/6025

 

 

 

[InMyShadow]

5 minutes ago, JigaloJack said:

Not sure you're correct about 99.9999% of thais not being affected.

 

http://thediplomat.com/2016/10/torture-under-thailands-military-junta/

https://prachatai.com/english/node/7296

http://prachatai.org/english/node/6178

https://prachatai.com/english/node/6025

 

 

 

"has documented 74 cases " from your first link. You do know how many people are in Thailand right? you have an online calculator

work it out

 

Im not pro torture but neither am I impressed by silly farang posts pretending that 74 is actually 7.4 million.

[anon789561]

47 minutes ago, JigaloJack said:

No, there is another option - let all the people of Thailand decide what they want for their country.

didn't they decide? oh yeah. they did

[JigaloJack]

16 minutes ago, InMyShadow said:

"has documented 74 cases " from your first link. You do know how many people are in Thailand right? you have an online calculator

work it out

 

Im not pro torture but neither am I impressed by silly farang posts pretending that 74 is actually 7.4 million.

Oh, you want your 99.9999% to be taken literally.

Thailand's current population according to worldometers.info is 68,832,922.

0.00001% of that equals 688 people.

So you actually think only 688 Thais have been affected by the coup.

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/05/21/thailand-junta-entrenched-3-years-after-coup

http://time.com/121624/thai-coup-thais-escape-junta/

https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/04/05/thailand-rights-groups-condemn-juntas-sweeping-powers-order

 

Out of curiosity  - how many torture cases do you feel is the acceptable amount of torture?

As long as its less than 7.4 million, you're fine with it?

 

It would appear you are more than willing to turn a blind eye to torture and have gone as far as urging those who are unhappy with a government that tortures to "take your family to your own nanny state".

 

 

Edited August 7, 2017 by JigaloJack

[JigaloJack]

2 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

didn't they decide? oh yeah. they did

When?

 

[anon789561]

Just now, JigaloJack said:

When?

 

next year when they are told perhaps

[InMyShadow]

Just now, JigaloJack said:

Oh, you want your 99.9999% to be taken literally.

Thailand's current population according to worldometers.info is 68,832,922.

0.00001% of that equals 688 people.

So you actually think only 688 Thais have been affected by the coup.

 

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/05/21/thailand-junta-entrenched-3-years-after-coup

http://time.com/121624/thai-coup-thais-escape-junta/

https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/04/05/thailand-rights-groups-condemn-juntas-sweeping-powers-order

 

It would appear you are more than willing to turn a blind eye to torture and have gone as far as urging those who are unhappy with a government that tortures to "take your family to your own nanny state".

Bravo champ.

 

 

how about vietnam? in one year 2016

 

"There were frequent physical assaults against human rights bloggers and campaigners at the hands of anonymous men who appear to be acting with state sanction and impunity. During the first seven months of 2016, at least 34 people—including children—reported that unknown assailants beat them. "

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/vietnam

 

I could go on and on with Cambodia , china, Myanmar, Laos but you get the picture ..do some more research buddy.

Yep amaaaaazing isnt ?

 

where you gonna run to with your family now..looks all same same but different doesn't it?

[anon789561]

Just now, InMyShadow said:

how about vietnam? in one year 2016

 

"There were frequent physical assaults against human rights bloggers and campaigners at the hands of anonymous men who appear to be acting with state sanction and impunity. During the first seven months of 2016, at least 34 people—including children—reported that unknown assailants beat them. "

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/vietnam

 

I could go on and on with Cambodia , china, Myanmar, Laos but you get the picture ..do some more research buddy.

Yep amaaaaazing isnt ?

 

where you gonna run to with your family now..looks all same same but different doesn't it?

you're cute. I'm not running anywhere. I might go to get some icecream

[JigaloJack]

Just now, InMyShadow said:

how about vietnam? in one year 2016

 

"There were frequent physical assaults against human rights bloggers and campaigners at the hands of anonymous men who appear to be acting with state sanction and impunity. During the first seven months of 2016, at least 34 people—including children—reported that unknown assailants beat them. "

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/vietnam

 

I could go on and on with Cambodia , china, Myanmar, Laos but you get the picture ..do some more research buddy.

Yep amaaaaazing isnt ?

 

where you gonna run to with your family now..looks all same same but different doesn't it?

What a ridiculous point it is that you are attempting to make here.

Because Vietnam or Cambodia or Syria or Afghanistan are worse, Thailand's situation is just fine.

Amaaaaazing indeed.

 

Wouldn't you rather that Thailand was heading in a direction that would lead to it being compared with the best countries in the world instead of the worst?

[anon789561]

8 minutes ago, InMyShadow said:

how about vietnam? in one year 2016

 

"There were frequent physical assaults against human rights bloggers and campaigners at the hands of anonymous men who appear to be acting with state sanction and impunity. During the first seven months of 2016, at least 34 people—including children—reported that unknown assailants beat them. "

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2017/country-chapters/vietnam

 

I could go on and on with Cambodia , china, Myanmar, Laos but you get the picture ..do some more research buddy.

Yep amaaaaazing isnt ?

 

where you gonna run to with your family now..looks all same same but different doesn't it?

aroi! nice mate

[InMyShadow]

2 minutes ago, JigaloJack said:

What a ridiculous point it is that you are attempting to make here.

Because Vietnam or Cambodia or Syria or Afghanistan are worse, Thailand's situation is just fine.

Amaaaaazing indeed.

 

Wouldn't you rather that Thailand was heading in a direction that would lead to it being compared with the best countries in the world instead of the worst?

Nope just neighboring countries close to the development cycle of Thailand

 

You seriously wanna compare Thailand to Singapore or USA ....Now thats Amaaaaaazing LMAO

 

Thailand is doing fine compared to its neighbors and thats under a coup. Funny though most thai bashers want to run to those countries to get away from the regime , now how stupid is that? out of the frying pan and straight into the fire

 

 

 

[JigaloJack]

2 minutes ago, InMyShadow said:

Nope just neighboring countries close to the development cycle of Thailand

 

You seriously wanna compare Thailand to Singapore or USA ....Now thats Amaaaaaazing LMAO

 

Thailand is doing fine compared to its neighbors and thats under a coup. Funny though most thai bashers want to run to those countries to get away from the regime , now how stupid is that? out of the frying pan and straight into the fire

 

 

 

Recent economic growth figures comparing Thailand to it's neighbours tell a different story to your claims - Thailand is not pulling further ahead, it's getting caught up to.

 

Singapore, US... You should always aim for the moon, even if you fall short, you'll land among the stars.

 

I think you'll find most opposed to the overthrow of democracy don't want to flee anywhere, they're all just a bit less selfish than you and would prefer that their hosts don't have to live under unnecessary fear, oppression, economic hardship and censorship.

[JAG]

nonsense you quote one rumor about an activist lol. get real 99.9999% of thais are unaffected and 100% of farang are unaffected.

There will never be a real democracy here, deal with it, accept it!

Is it really worth living a country under a government you despise , possibly in power for another 10 years? Why not take your family to your own nanny state. Not worth the stress and your post I see a stressed person...remember health first!

It was in fact a report here, taken from the Nation, so not a rumour.

 

As for what you see - you might need to consult an optician. I'm far from stressed, you however do seem rather excited that some one should hold to a position to which you do not subscribe. Perhaps you should try not to get so excited? Remember health first!

 

[observer90210]

How about asking the fine lady minister on softening a bit on visa requirements for Thai spouses//GF's/mia noi's , wanting to go to Australia?

[Thechook]

Wasn't even a mention of this in the aussie media

[Toshiba66]

What happened to..........Australia looks forward to return of democracy in Thailand

Gone a bit sideways boys!

 

"A Thai degree is equivalent to a chocolate teapot" was the best thing I read in the whole topic.