webfact Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Police prohibited from bar connections By The Nation BANGKOK: -- Police officers are prohibited from being involved either directly or indirectly in alcohol and night-entertainment businesses, police deputy spokesman Krisana Pattanacharoen confirmed on Monday. At the order of Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha, as National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) chief, police had recently begun strict checks on night entertainment venues, especially booze-selling venues near educational institutes/schools. The order also requires that police refrain from any involvement with such businesses, Krisana said. The authorities have detailed knowledge of these businesses in each police jurisdictions, so any officers ignoring the regulations would face punishments as per policing regulation number 234/2558, he added. Krisana’s comment was in response to people’s criticism about some police having interests, including holding shares, in night-entertainment businesses. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30323078 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-08-07 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasalBanality Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 At least they acknowledged police involvement and influence as well as the plausibility of punishment if convicted. Better late than never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, webfact said: Police officers are prohibited from being involved either directly or indirectly in alcohol and night-entertainment businesses, Good time to be in the business of making of "For Sale" signs ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 This is a very good move and a constructive commencement from the current Thai government. Wonder nevertheless, how and if, the law will be enforced? And for the cops currently involved in such business ventures, what steps will be taken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark131v Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 minute ago, observer90210 said: This is a very good move and a constructive commencement from the current Thai government. Wonder nevertheless, how and if, the law will be enforced? And for the cops currently involved in such business ventures, what steps will be taken? Enforced.....No Steps taken.....None More hot air from the self appointed expert on everything and another wasted opportunity to actually do something constructive for the country rather than personal enrichment.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaidDown Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Would expect to see a large number of bars transferring shares and/or involvement to police wives and mia nois in the coming couple of weeks. (Maybe even to maids or drivers as well) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 One of my very first hand and early experiences of late nights in one of the bars behind Chandrakesem University was seeing Cops riding up in their bikes after 12midnight for their weekly collection and sometimes to ask for some unfinished bottles of whiskey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techno Viking Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 1 minute ago, Moonmoon said: One of my very first hand and early experiences of late nights in one of the bars behind Chandrakesem University was seeing Cops riding up in their bikes after 12midnight for their weekly collection and sometimes to ask for some unfinished bottles of whiskey. So the bar was not police owned then !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigaloJack Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Do the same rules apply to the military? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Does this mean the Police Chief loses his 'advisory role' and 50k a month? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Does police not being involved directly, or indirectly, mean that they will not even be allowed to visit the bars every month to pick up their brown envelopes? I also foresee lots of bars, especially the really seedy ones having to go into new ownership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 19 minutes ago, edwinchester said: Does this mean the Police Chief loses his 'advisory role' and 50k a month? No. It was formally decided by superior powers that it was all legit and above board. High ranking police officers, army officers and politicians are exempt and have immunity under Article 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf99 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 How stupid am I ?..... I thought it was to do with the Lawyers...... "A bar association is a professional body of lawyers"................................but in LoS everything is skewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Who's going to enforce this edict against the police??? The police??? BTW, so does that mean that brothels, soapy massage parlors, gambling establishments etc. are OK for them to be involved in??? Edited August 7, 2017 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 38 minutes ago, ThaidDown said: formal Would expect to see a large number of bars transferring shares and/or involvement to police wives and mia nois in the coming couple of weeks. (Maybe even to maids or drivers as well) Like you I suspect the status quo will remain. All that will happen is that a lot of formal paperwork will be created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essecola Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 What will they do? Catch and apprehend themselves? Hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf99 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 I never saw a bar in Jomtien with chandeliers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwinchester Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Cadbury said: No. It was formally decided by superior powers that it was all legit and above board. High ranking police officers, army officers and politicians are exempt and have immunity under Article 44. Thank <deleted> for that, for a second I thought privilege, rank and influence were about to be ignored. Edited August 7, 2017 by edwinchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Every problem or issue here is "solved" by some big pronouncement or edict. Never mind that there's rarely if ever anything done to actually implement their big words and promises. In the past a few years back, it was widely reported that police were involved in the ownership or operation of the Santika nightclub, which ultimately burned and killed 66 and injured 200+. And AFAIR, that was never publicly addressed by the authorities nor was any action taken. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/4443294/Bangkok-nightclub-fire-Police-tried-to-protect-guilty-colleagues.html http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7981841.stm Edited August 7, 2017 by TallGuyJohninBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 the army will take over the ownership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tracker1 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Police officers are prohibited from being involved either directly or indirectly in alcohol and night-entertainment businessesThe order also requires that police refrain from any involvement with such businesses Bit confusing it's prohibited but their asked to refrain from involvement ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Beautiful imagination.But practically not implementable. There are too many ways around, with lawyers, trustees, familymembers, company structures,etc. At least the same rules should also apply to members of the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Beautiful imagination.But practically not implementable. There are too many ways around, with lawyers, trustees, familymembers, company structures,etc. At least the same rules should also apply to members of the army.I think you may find that the army have stepped up to the plate and are proactively assuming the role formerly performed by the police in " managing" relationships with many bars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 2 hours ago, mark131v said: Enforced.....No Steps taken.....None More hot air from the self appointed expert on everything and another wasted opportunity to actually do something constructive for the country rather than personal enrichment.... You mean the former governments? The S- ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bheard Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 This is a very good move and a constructive commencement from the current Thai government. Wonder nevertheless, how and if, the law will be enforced? And for the cops currently involved in such business ventures, what steps will be taken?Ah yes, enforcement. We'll get the police to enforce it. That should work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Real Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Police officers are prohibited from being involved either directly or indirectly in alcohol and night-entertainment businesses That must directly mean that consultation for a beer company is totally of the table, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KamnanT Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 It will be interesting to see what happens to that bar on Sukhumvit 23 (called "Insane Residence" or something like that???). It opened offering a certain type of exotic dancing by staff members who clearly can't afford any clothing, despite no new licenses being made available in Bangkok for this kind of entertainment venue for at least a decade. Personally, I could never believe the rumours of BiB financial participation, but one does wonder sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Hmmm, watch this space ..... Quite a few fire sales coming up, or transfers to trusted reli's !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark01 Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 An order that will never be followed up, unless there's a "very good reason" to. And what about military and immigration involvements? This country, full of <deleted>! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIWIBATCH Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 More hot air.......nothing will happen........nothing will change......Thailand "Hub of Daily BS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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