Yabbys

[farmerjo]

Hi all,

Just wondering is there anybody growing yabbys or kunacs in thailand?

(a yabby is similar to a prawn)

Thanks farmerjo

[IsaanAussie]

Hi all,

Just wondering is there anybody growing yabbys or kunacs in thailand?

(a yabby is similar to a prawn)

Thanks farmerjo

FJ,

There was a guy who either started or was at least planning a yabbie farm here around about 1999-2000. Cant remember the details but you may be able to find out by contacting Austrade at the Oz Embassy. I used to work there at the time but was not personally involved. I currently live in a large fresh water prawn growing area and see no reason why yabbies would not do well.

Isaanaussie

[Bagwain]

You guys are obviously from the southern states as in Qld we call them freshwater crays.

We us yabbies for fishing and we pump them out of the sand with a yabbie pump. (salt water)

[Farma]

Bagwain it depends where you grew up. Out west in queensland we called them yabbies and used them for fishing bait. Used a rectangular wire frame with 1/2" chicken wire that we would throw into dams and drag to the bank. We'd store them in an old concrete wash tub with lots of grass covered in a damp hessian bag until ready to go fishing. They're great for catching cod and yellow belly.

He's a link to an earlier thread on yabbies. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Crawfish-t179540.html

Dakhar had too many and wanted to get rid of some.

Edited September 28, 2008 by Farma

[farmerjo]

Thanks issanaussie,

Will look up,theres a bussiness where i come from called cabinatta yabbys who export all over the world.

Wouldnt be for commerical purposes,just a few on the bbq.I am not into import/export but would be good to get some here to breed up.Easy to look after ,feed them soya beans and would grow like hel_l in this climate.

From a little town called jerramungup on the south coast in western australia

[farmerjo]

Thanks farma,

Did anyone get any off dakhar in the knon kaen,loei area?

[IsaanAussie]

Thanks issanaussie,

Will look up,theres a bussiness where i come from called cabinatta yabbys who export all over the world.

Wouldnt be for commerical purposes,just a few on the bbq.I am not into import/export but would be good to get some here to breed up.Easy to look after ,feed them soya beans and would grow like hel_l in this climate.

From a little town called jerramungup on the south coast in western australia

FJ,

I think you are right, they would get to be enormous here.

Can you imagine the fear you could conjure up amongst the Thais in the Mobahn with a "Big Banana" size model of a yabbie set up near your pond and the skull and cross bones sign next to it. Tell them "This is a small one, you should see them when they grow up!" "But its the ghost yabbies you really have to look out for". "One dragged our biggest pig into the pond last week, bloody hungry buggers. They are also very protective of their young, you wouldn't want to try and take any little ones out of that pond mate. SNAP, there goes your arm."

Hook, line and sinker..... Come in Spinner... Up-along, down-along, belong-along

[Gary A]

Thanks issanaussie,

Will look up,theres a bussiness where i come from called cabinatta yabbys who export all over the world.

Wouldnt be for commerical purposes,just a few on the bbq.I am not into import/export but would be good to get some here to breed up.Easy to look after ,feed them soya beans and would grow like hel_l in this climate.

From a little town called jerramungup on the south coast in western australia

FJ,

I think you are right, they would get to be enormous here.

Can you imagine the fear you could conjure up amongst the Thais in the Mobahn with a "Big Banana" size model of a yabbie set up near your pond and the skull and cross bones sign next to it. Tell them "This is a small one, you should see them when they grow up!" "But its the ghost yabbies you really have to look out for". "One dragged our biggest pig into the pond last week, bloody hungry buggers. They are also very protective of their young, you wouldn't want to try and take any little ones out of that pond mate. SNAP, there goes your arm."

Hook, line and sinker..... Come in Spinner... Up-along, down-along, belong-along

You can bet your last baht the Thais would steal them. I remember some years back when the Bangkok crocodile farm flooded and a lot of big crocodiles escaped. The government made everyone aware of how dangerous they were and gave telephone numbers to call if anyone spotted one. There were no calls and none of the crocodiles were returned. That was the first time for many Thais to eat crocodile meat.

[Pond Life]

Pm Dakhar, he had some breeding stock for sale in Bangkok.

I think he's was interested in a good sized deal rather than just a half dozen for the back yard.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Crawfish-t17...&hl=yabbies

Edited September 28, 2008 by Pond Life

[wagner54]

Pm Dakhar, he had some breeding stock for sale in Bangkok.

I think he's was interested in a good sized deal rather than just a half dozen for the back yard.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Crawfish-t17...&hl=yabbies

Hello All

I contacted Dakhar a couple weeks ago and he doesn't have them up for sale any longer. Good luck with finding some and if anyone does please post it here. The larger tropical fish suppliers have them on occasion but they are quite expensive for buying the quantity you would need to set up a breeding population.

[Maizefarmer]

Yes - there's an Aussie Pak Chong breeding Yabbies - his house is on the high res part of Google maps - I will message you the Long & Lat position of the house after I have had a word with him and its all okay his side.

He brought them back in his luggage - packed in ice! - they survive the journey!

[Smithson]

I was interested in doing freshwater prawns as a hobby, but I'm told they're difficult to raise. Yabbies seem easier, but are quite expensive and there's no market if you wanted to sell them.

What are ppl's thoughts on breeding yabbies vs fresh water prawns?

[Pond Life]

If youre talking about giant freshwater prawns Macrobrachiun rosenbergii,

then the main problem (depending on where you live),

Is that they only breed in brackish water (estuaries naturaly).

You can raise them in fresh water but only after they reach a certain larval stage.

[Smithson]

If youre talking about giant freshwater prawns Macrobrachiun rosenbergii,

then the main problem (depending on where you live),

Is that they only breed in brackish water (estuaries naturaly).

You can raise them in fresh water but only after they reach a certain larval stage.

I guess that's what I'm talking about! I've only spoken to Thais, who refer to 'kung nam jute'.

Regarding the yabbies, apparently they do well on cassava.

[GungaDin]

Yabby Dabby Doo

Super yabbie

http://www.abc.net.au/landline/ (9:44 minutes long)

You will need a good connection, shown yesterday.

Transcript: http://www.abc.net.au/landline/content/2008/s2375575.htm

[Somtham]

I was interested in doing freshwater prawns as a hobby, but I'm told they're difficult to raise. Yabbies seem easier, but are quite expensive and there's no market if you wanted to sell them.

We raised some giant freshwater prawns last year and I don't think they were that difficult. We bought 5,000 PL10 or 15's from the Tak Dept of Fisheries at 15 satang each and planted them in a 200 sq m pond at the end of June '07. We harvested 22kg Jan 1, 08 for New Years parties and they averaged 15/kg. We then emptied the pond and harvested another 50kg for Songkran this year and they averaged 12/kg.

Everybody had their fill of BBQ'd prawns and Tom Yam over the New Year and Songkran and we gave away about half of the harvest to neighbors, poo yai, and some shop owners. Total cost for feed and electricity for the blower was ~B290/kg.

A great downloadable publication from the FAO for breeding and raising the prawns can be found here: http://www.fao.org/docrep/005/Y4100E/y4100e00.HTM

What are ppl's thoughts on breeding yabbies vs fresh water prawns?

From what I've read I'd say the Yabbies would be much much easier to breed. If you read through the publication above you'll see you need to set up a salt water hatchery for the prawns and gradually wheen (sp?) them to freshwater towards the end of the larvae stage. You'll also need to make your own "egg custard' feed to start with and then you'll have to find a source and start raising artemia to be used for feed.

Seems the Yabbies can be put direct in a freshwater pond and left to their own to produce youngn'.

Good luck if you give either a go.

rgds

[farmerjo]

Where i came from all the farmers wifes use to grow them for pocket money.

No rocket science just a 20 ltr bucket of lupins every fortnight in the dam,good for protein to make them grow.Anything else they eat is usually to clear the oxygen in the water.If you want to get tecnical you then seperate the males from the females for faster growth.To start off you have a tank with 12 inches of dirt in the bottom to allow them bury if to hot or water level drops.Or just throw them in a pond and let them go but make sure the pond is free of fish and tadpoles.An old wifes tale was have tadpoles no yabbys.And when you dont need the tank after your numbers are up you use it with circulation to clean the little delights before eating.

[GungaDin]

If plan A doesn't bear fruit,

Plan B might be to back someone with multiple, small dams and or freshwater tanks for breeding Super Yabbies.

If you have a well constructed business plan PM me initially with an outline.

I'll be in BKK in Dec.

In the meantime I'll contact the CSIRO & the NSW DPI for more info about the Super Yabbie featured on ABC's Landline last Sunday.

[PEP]

Hi all,

Just wondering is there anybody growing yabbys or kunacs in thailand?

(a yabby is similar to a prawn)

Thanks farmerjo

Yabbys or Yabbies, the ones that are edible size, not the ones that the "banana-benders" use for bait!

I may have missed it (not being too bright) but is there a contact who can supply a minimum breeding stock to here in Ubonratchatani province to start-up a small hobby enterprise. I would like to utalise the several backyard concrete tanks previously from a failed trial Frog Farm. we only have town, untreated water supply also an extended family who are racking up heaps of "hammock time". No Prawns or Super Yabbies thanks.

[mickmac]

Hi all,

Just wondering is there anybody growing yabbys or kunacs in thailand?

(a yabby is similar to a prawn)

Thanks farmerjo

Yabbys or Yabbies, the ones that are edible size, not the ones that the "banana-benders" use for bait!

I may have missed it (not being too bright) but is there a contact who can supply a minimum breeding stock to here in Ubonratchatani province to start-up a small hobby enterprise. I would like to utalise the several backyard concrete tanks previously from a failed trial Frog Farm. we only have town, untreated water supply also an extended family who are racking up heaps of "hammock time". No Prawns or Super Yabbies thanks.

I think that they are trying to grow the Red Clawed Crayfish at the Royal Project in Doi Inthanon. They can be reached at:-

Royal Project Foundation

65 Suthep Rd.

T.Suthep

A.Muang

Chiang Mai 50200

Tel: 053278332

www.doikham.com

Hope this helps you out

Regards

Mickmac

[neverdie]

An Aussie Yabbie smuggler

[mickmac]

An Aussie Yabbie smuggler

I remember seeing a program on ABC, where an Australian farmer was trying to breeder a yabbie that could not reproduce, so that live ones could be sold in other parts of the world without Australia loosing any of the market. Looks like he didn't succeed.

[GungaDin]

I'm bringing some yabby traps with me next month.

If anyone wants some traps, please PM me.

Cost is 350bt each, plus 200bt/kg

min. order 10 traps. Can be mixed.

No ring

With ring

[IsaanAussie]

I'm bringing some yabby traps with me next month.

If anyone wants some traps, please PM me.

Cost is 350bt each, plus 200bt/kg

min. order 10 traps. Can be mixed.

No ring

With ring

Gunga,

Mate I live next to a double shophouse full of fish traps similiar to those. If you like I'll check the local price and availability. Could save you a quid. PM if you are interested.

Isaanaussie

[GungaDin]

If made for Crayfish, great.

Same would be good, similar, no good.

check yr PMs.

[IsaanAussie]

If made for Crayfish, great.

Same would be good, similar, no good.

check yr PMs.

GD,

Will check both the store and the PM. If not the same will ask if he can source, he buys direct I think.

IA

[GungaDin]

If made for Crayfish, great.

Same would be good, similar, no good.

check yr PMs.

GD,

Will check both the store and the PM. If not the same will ask if he can source, he buys direct I think.

IA

Hi IA,

any news?

[IsaanAussie]

GD,

Heading up to Isaan tomorrow morning, at this stage back to Suphan Buri about the 16th. Off for a few days R&R until the 21st, undecided where. Then back up to Isaan for 3 to 4 weeks.

Thats the plan as it stands.

Isaanaussie

[GungaDin]

^^^^ I was referring to the cray traps.

[IsaanAussie]

^^^^ I was referring to the cray traps.

Sorry, I'm not with you. I sent you sketches and said the guy would make to design. Exactly what else were you waiting for?