MAJIC

Its the farangs fault she died and he was not their, simple as that, Thai logic and proud.

Maybe the brit guy was better looking and she whispered to him to stay seated, she might not have wanted a woos next to her in an extreme situation, better a real man, but if not a brit will do.

Normal flying practice when travelling with others,is to ask at the checkin stage for adjoining seats,or is that too simple? i've never been refused, or split up from my family,ever! over many years of flying.

...it appears that Submaniac is having the same.

Now I can talk to the Pseudolus but not Submaniac. Does this have to do with we are both farangs? One could try to insinuate that but doing so without concrete proof that I'm a racist and a bigot would make it a foolish endeavour. Yet SM assumes this and that makes his statements not only invalid but also he is the one that comes out as a racist.

I'm not saying that I totally agree everything the OP has to say but that is not the point I'm making either. To give creds to Submaniac that is he is a man of his words... He couldn't cope and is moving home but if he tried to actually talk to some westerners he would see that the skew perception some farangs have about Thais also applies to the Thais have about farangs.

A few years ago I was in love with a beautiful girl from Vienna. We had talked about flying to Thailand for many many years. She had a terrible fear of flying. For three years, I tried to coach her onto a plane. It didn't work. Finally, finally, finally, I managed to get her on this plane. I wanted to sit next to her and hold her hand to make sure she did not have a panic attack. The airline had the plane at capacity. Everybody was there with someone--girlfriend, wife, kids, family. There was one British individual that was obviously flying by himself. I asked if he would mind changing seats so we could sit together. He initially said yes. But nobody was in their correct seats so everyone went to find their corect seats. When the correct seats were found, I found that I could still sit next to her if he changed. His response was, "no I've already tried to change seats onece and I am not doing it again." Now I had paid $3k for these tickets. I had tried to do this flight for three years. And, my girl was going to have some serious anxiety without me sitting next to her.

But this Brit would not change. His attitude was well it's my seat you can't have it. The typical 50 year old thin bald British uppercrust "lord of the manner".

It turns out that this flight, was the last time I saw her again. She died about 3 months later. And this was my last chance, and it was ruined by a British snob that was full of himself and his "Britishness" to do a simple thing to change seats. During that flight, I burned his face into my memory. And when I am in Thailand, I am looking for him. He may even be on this forum. (And if you are, know that I am searching for you.)

But the crux of this matter is, that whenever I see some Brit on this board shooting his mouth off about Thailand, or the Thai people I think of the Brit on the plane. Yes, you think you are better and more important than me. You took away my lost opportunity to be with the girl I loved for the sake of your arrogance.

I point out that there are alot of Brits here that I absolutely adore, and am friends with like Thaicbr, Bigbikebkk, BKKjames, and if you count the Scotts as British I adore eek, and theblether and smokie35 and whatnot. So I am not anti British per se. I am anti-the ones that think they are the lord of the plantation during colonial days, and we Thais are there little brown servants. That is what I hate.

And Maxme, I know what I am about. I do not need your psychoanalytical drivel.

I always thought you were a rational and open minded person,and a good poster. But now it seems your hatred of the British people,stems from one unfortunate incident. Did you think to explain to the English Guy the true reason you wanted to change seats? had you done so, he may have changed seats for the second time! and to intend to track him down,for your retribution indicates that you have gone far beyond Bigotry.

For your information: not all Thais feel the same as you obviously do about British people,try asking the 30,000 Thai Residents in the UK,that enjoy a good life there,and appear to have no intentions of returning to Thailand. Not to mention the 100,000 immigrants a year pouring into the UK,from many other countries around the world.

Don't let one incident poison your life!

I have had 4 stolen over a 4 year period,had to smile though,when a tatty old helmet was left,as part exchange for my good one.

When someone makes such a public display of devotion to religion it's a pretty good bet that he/she is a first-class slimeball (to put it nicely).

Religeon and scoundrels,is very often the refuge of a perfect marriage!

Maybe I'm barking mad however my reading of court politics throughout history ( and that's a hobby of mine ) is that it's the courtiers that turn the heads........the OP is a story about court politics and that's where the danger lies for TS.......the court will split.......and he will not be able to do anything about it.

The longer he is out of the country.........the tighter the grip the courtiers will have on power.......and you'll find an internal coup will emanate from the most unexpected source.

Read the story again...................an attempt to blacken a name back fired..........it won't be the last time the rule of unintended consequences comes into play.

Game of Thrones is a good television series which truly mimics the feudalistic power struggles going on in Thailand.

Spot on, sir. And what a series it is. Read all the books with much pleasure.

Actually, I think theblether has a point. Although TS has not become irrelevant, it might just be that the new power "elite" are starting to get comfy in their places. The upcoming re-shuffle should make things a little clearer. Instructions and "suggestions" might still come out of Dubai, but you know how it is. Talking on Skype is just not the same. " Yeah sorry the connection is bad, we talk later, na?"

It will be interesting to see how YS develops as a leader. If she is starting to collect a court of friendlies and sycophants, they might not all be selected by Big Brother T. If the YS group is blocking the TS faction from contacting her, that would certainly be new.

Her government might become just a tad more popular/credible (by Thai standards) if she manages to get rid of Jatuporn and Chalerm. Both are liabilities.

One an instigator who is basically a street thug, the other a barking bully with questionable morals and shady sons. Both have a heavy sense of entitlement.

All the bravado about TS returning is starting to look silly. Every day he stays away, the less likely it is.

The day she manages to get those 2 to <deleted>, she will have come into her own.

One can only pray that your above underlined statement is correct,but after the demeaning American round of Thai Restaurant speeches (hasty retreat and retiring with loss of face),to raise his publicity,it does look as though he's running short on ideas publicity wise.

Horrible post.

Poking fun at less fortunates and then thinking you are a kind-hearted benefactor by giving her a bag full of bottles.

What a jerk!

You must be very short of cash yourself as you seem to be aware of every little baht's worth of everything you mention.

Be a person, give her 1000 and put the poor sole out of her obvious misery for at least a week.

Horrible post. Mocking the poor lady, thoroughly horrible.

What gives you the right to be so condescending to your fellow beings. She's probably worth ten times you.

Saddo.

She should have charged him for being his Dustman .

Seems things have changed for the worst. My own experience some eight years ago,was absolutely brilliant.

My wife and I went to the relevant department,and there was 60 or 70 people there waiting,so we was preparing for a long wait.

5 minutes later a lady came out from the office,and in we went,she looked at my UK Licence,and said I can see you are a good driver (not especially true) and then she said I will give you a 1 year Driving Licence,come back next year and I will give a 5 year Licence,and sure enough she did.

No tests or hassle, amazing! Apparently from later reports she was moved deep into the office heirachy and never got to meet Farangs again,I think maybe she was too bright for the system.

Hold on there Majic. You claim she was was too bright for the DLT system yet say she issues UK (only) drivers unchallenged 1 year & 5 year Thai drivers licenses even though you claim you were not a good driver???? I think they should have fired her and rehired her at immigration! Are Aussies, Canadians, Americans and Eurpeans inferior to you Brits? I did not have to do the computer or driving tests on my 1 or 5 year licenses but the color, reaction and depth perception tests were required - you would think with the number of older retirees here it would be mandatory for safety reasons?

Seems things have changed for the worst. My own experience some eight years ago,was absolutely brilliant.

My wife and I went to the relevant department,and there was 60 or 70 people there waiting,so we was preparing for a long wait.

5 minutes later a lady came out from the office,and in we went,she looked at my UK Licence,and said I can see you are a good driver (not especially true) and then she said I will give you a 1 year Driving Licence,come back next year and I will give a 5 year Licence,and sure enough she did.

No tests or hassle, amazing! Apparently from later reports she was moved deep into the office heirachy and never got to meet Farangs again,I think maybe she was too bright for the system.

Hold on there Majic. You claim she was was too bright for the DLT system yet say she issues UK (only) drivers unchallenged 1 year & 5 year Thai drivers licenses even though you claim you were not a good driver???? I think they should have fired her and rehired her at immigration! Are Aussies, Canadians, Americans and Eurpeans inferior to you Brits? I did not have to do the computer or driving tests on my 1 or 5 year licenses but the color, reaction and depth perception tests were required - you would think with the number of older retirees here it would be mandatory for safety reasons?

I didn't say she issued only UK Drivers Licences. I hold a full UK Licence. So it was safe for her to issue me with a Thai Licence,considering to pass a uk driving test is much more stringent than a Thai Test. And yes I consider she was pretty smart,enough to make decisions,or would you rather clog up the system with Farangs? I don't suppose you would have considered that her job may have been to deal with Farangs only? for that very reason?

What's more amazing is the PM gave a nice old pre opening ceremony speech about how we should admire people with disabilities when he is cutting disability benefits. Rot in hell Cameron!

The usual Breathtaking Hypocracy!

I never met him,but what's wrong with characters larger than life? we can't all be boring!

She a competitor for the inheritence of a seriously ill man. Sadly, that probably weighs heaviest on their minds right now.

A valid point, however I think the Thai wife would be delighted to know that she can get some contribution towards the upkeep of her daughter every month, and possibly to receive some clarity as to her pension rights if her husband passes away.

And possibly? if the child is a British Citizen by Birthright from the father? it may be worth a phone call to the DWP UK to see if she is entitled to anything from the UK? from his contributions.

His wife should be due for £2000 for widows Bereavement Allowance,and maybe more???

A very sad story Blether,even though the title of your Topic may not be quite be correct,considering the father would not have wanted to be of ill health and would seem not to have seen his Daughter in this plight.

However, I am sure like many members here,I would be prepared to donate to this young ladies well being,if only someone had the knowledge to set up a fund for her??? any ideas? which I am sure there are many things to consider.

That's a very kind offer MAJIC.......the chances are that I will fund this young lady from my own pocket. I have known her and her mother for three years and my girlfriend regards her as a sister, she is very very close to her.

Amusingly the wee girl regards my girlfriend as her "mother" and she calls her own mother "Yai".....much to the chagrin of her own mother who is in her early forties.

I have a few issues I need to consider, and this is off my own back, I haven't been asked..........If I decide to fund the child I'll need to be discrete about it, I'll funnel the money through my girlfriend as another farang being on the scene may give the Canadian family and easy out.

I'll need some input from our Canadian members as to the law in this matter, at the end of the day both a wife and daughter have been abandoned, and I will need to decide if I want to take on the lifetime commitment to this little girl irrespective of how my relationship works out with my gf. Hence I said I'll need to have a good think about this.

Right now I'm minded to do it........my youngest daughter is now 17 and I'm funding her through college......I've been a Dad for 26 years and I'm used to the funding demands of parenthood. I don't intend to be a step father type figure to this little girl that cannot be my role, however I could be an "angel ".

I'll need time for this to settle into my head I think.

I know the business definition of an Angel: "Parties who provide money and invest in a startup company",but you are truly an Angel in the best sense of the word.

But do consider some Basic figures from Thai Visa members..........150,000 members? x 5% contributers @ £10 minimum contribution = £15'000 = 735,000 baht.

I'm probably going to get a warning for this,contravening tv rules.

Good work, and a

A very sad story Blether,even though the title of your Topic may not be quite be correct,considering the father would not have wanted to be of ill health and would seem not to have seen his Daughter in this plight.

However, I am sure like many members here,I would be prepared to donate to this young ladies well being,if only someone had the knowledge to set up a fund for her??? any ideas? which I am sure there are many things to consider.

Oh! no not another dog poo topic, spare us please.

Hmmmm! about right,all front, and no thought behind it.

Asking the price of everthing is called:the keeping up with the Jone'ses syndrome,or: I must get what you have got,otherwise i'm a second class Citizen.

No! .....But my 6 year old English/Thai Daughter does!

I think mainly you are right it has lifted the Doom and Gloom,from a previously dispirited Nation somewhat,and strangely the escapees on the run from the UK have gone pretty silent too. Perhaps the Courts and Banks have given them a reprieve?

Seems like the Paralympics have kicked off with another 3 hour,amazing opening Ceremony.

Seems things have changed for the worst. My own experience some eight years ago,was absolutely brilliant.

My wife and I went to the relevant department,and there was 60 or 70 people there waiting,so we was preparing for a long wait.

5 minutes later a lady came out from the office,and in we went,she looked at my UK Licence,and said I can see you are a good driver (not especially true) and then she said I will give you a 1 year Driving Licence,come back next year and I will give a 5 year Licence,and sure enough she did.

No tests or hassle, amazing! Apparently from later reports she was moved deep into the office heirachy and never got to meet Farangs again,I think maybe she was too bright for the system.

And if he got one,he'd only set fire to it,if he didn't get his own way!

And Pattaya has been colonised by the Brits.

Pattaya has been colonized by the Russians, the days of the Brits are over

Why feel the need to hijack an interesting thread with an attack on Brits? I suggest if you don't like it, go home.

And how can they attack the Brits? considering they also have been Colonised. And for 900 years,if you can't beat that.Go Home!

You know though......there is one thing that unites everyone who has chosen to live an ex-pat life, on a company package or otherwise.......each and every one of you has had the bottle to have a go.

As Norman Tebbit said, you " got on your bike ", and you got on your bike to make a better life for yourself or family. The motivation could have been travel, employment, retirement whatever, the bottom line is that you stepped out of the norm and tried.

Far too many people go through lives in the starting gate, you can't say that about ex-pats. Many ex-pats shot out of their starting gate as soon as they could, ( villagefarang is a prime example, finished Uni then took off to Thailand where he has now lived for 35 memorable years ), many may have lived conventional lives in their own countries for a substantial period before moving, however every single ex-pat has one thing in common......eventually they went through the departure gate.

So that unites all of you, you have all had the bottle to go through that departure gate and try..............and that's a far better way to live your life than entrapping yourself within small horizons.

I'll be quiet now.

I have to say Blether your quote from Norman Tebbit was pretty rich,and taking the P*** considering he never "had to get on his bike" in his life,and probably never had to stoop so low,even as an analogy either!

I'll just let that comment pass MAJIC

Sorry buddy! but circa 45 year olds? often mistakenly think Tebbit and Maggie was the greatest since sliced bread. Sorry about the slight deviation off topic.

Oh well you've started it now MAJIC so I may as well rise to the bait........so my family were employed in the steel industry in Motherwell, I was an apprentice engineer at Ravenscraig steel works, my father was the local chair of ASTMS. So we were both union card holders. Other members of my family were employed in texstyle's and mining.

So there you go, card carrying union men, all of us......what's your point? I suggest you be very careful making it as you may find yourself in a battle that will embarrass you.......go ahead.

As you know Blether we are going to go off Topic big time on this one,so I will be happy to engage this subject at,another time. As long as the Topic is within TV rules,embarrass me,by all means, if that is your intention,but of course the members will always decide.

And by the way there was no bait for you to rise to,merely my comments! on a particular obnoxious MP,of that particular era, of which you seem a bit tetchy about.

You know though......there is one thing that unites everyone who has chosen to live an ex-pat life, on a company package or otherwise.......each and every one of you has had the bottle to have a go.

As Norman Tebbit said, you " got on your bike ", and you got on your bike to make a better life for yourself or family. The motivation could have been travel, employment, retirement whatever, the bottom line is that you stepped out of the norm and tried.

Far too many people go through lives in the starting gate, you can't say that about ex-pats. Many ex-pats shot out of their starting gate as soon as they could, ( villagefarang is a prime example, finished Uni then took off to Thailand where he has now lived for 35 memorable years ), many may have lived conventional lives in their own countries for a substantial period before moving, however every single ex-pat has one thing in common......eventually they went through the departure gate.

So that unites all of you, you have all had the bottle to go through that departure gate and try..............and that's a far better way to live your life than entrapping yourself within small horizons.

I'll be quiet now.

I have to say Blether your quote from Norman Tebbit was pretty rich,and taking the P*** considering he never "had to get on his bike" in his life,and probably never had to stoop so low,even as an analogy either!

I'll just let that comment pass MAJIC

Sorry buddy! but circa 45 year olds? often mistakenly think Tebbit and Maggie was the greatest since sliced bread. Sorry about the slight deviation off topic.

You know though......there is one thing that unites everyone who has chosen to live an ex-pat life, on a company package or otherwise.......each and every one of you has had the bottle to have a go.

As Norman Tebbit said, you " got on your bike ", and you got on your bike to make a better life for yourself or family. The motivation could have been travel, employment, retirement whatever, the bottom line is that you stepped out of the norm and tried.

Far too many people go through lives in the starting gate, you can't say that about ex-pats. Many ex-pats shot out of their starting gate as soon as they could, ( villagefarang is a prime example, finished Uni then took off to Thailand where he has now lived for 35 memorable years ), many may have lived conventional lives in their own countries for a substantial period before moving, however every single ex-pat has one thing in common......eventually they went through the departure gate.

So that unites all of you, you have all had the bottle to go through that departure gate and try..............and that's a far better way to live your life than entrapping yourself within small horizons.

I'll be quiet now.

I have to say Blether your quote from Norman Tebbit was pretty awful,and taking the P*** considering he never had: "got on your bike" in his lifetime,and probably never had to stoop so low,even as an analogy either!

You obviously was too young to grasp that era?

You mean when the UK made the transition from manufacturing industry to bugger all industry?

Yeah I remember it....and many towns and villages in Scotland have never recovered from the fallout.

I'm sure its the same in the North of England.....you don't need to be that old to remember those times.....none of us understood the whole loadsamoney character either...

You got it! and there's much, much, more,that can't be discussed on this topic.

You know though......there is one thing that unites everyone who has chosen to live an ex-pat life, on a company package or otherwise.......each and every one of you has had the bottle to have a go.

As Norman Tebbit said, you " got on your bike ", and you got on your bike to make a better life for yourself or family. The motivation could have been travel, employment, retirement whatever, the bottom line is that you stepped out of the norm and tried.

Far too many people go through lives in the starting gate, you can't say that about ex-pats. Many ex-pats shot out of their starting gate as soon as they could, ( villagefarang is a prime example, finished Uni then took off to Thailand where he has now lived for 35 memorable years ), many may have lived conventional lives in their own countries for a substantial period before moving, however every single ex-pat has one thing in common......eventually they went through the departure gate.

So that unites all of you, you have all had the bottle to go through that departure gate and try..............and that's a far better way to live your life than entrapping yourself within small horizons.

I'll be quiet now.

I have to say Blether your quote from Norman Tebbit was pretty awful,and taking the P*** considering he never had: "got on your bike" in his lifetime,and probably never had to stoop so low,even as an analogy either!

You obviously was too young to grasp that era?