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18 hours ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

Tourists aren't coming in from overseas for a good while yet, even if the borders opened tomorrow with no restrictions.

 

International travel won't return to normal for many months yet.

 

Business owners and people employed in the foreign tourism sector will continue to suffer, but those that diversified or rely on domestic tourism will survive. 

 

The whole thing was a massive, unsustainable bubble anyway, and the environment is no doubt breathing a sigh of great relief.

Thailand was not benefiting from Chinese tourism, only the rich benefited, and a billionaire thai minister is touting there return . Meanwhile the wuhan high speed railway is flying ahead with Chinese financing and Burmese labour, Myanmar is now full of c19 Bangladesh also the thai borders are surrounded with C19. On top of this Thailand is taking credit as being a safe country after letting thousands of  Chinese into Thailand when the virus was running wild in wuhan.  Now they want Winnie wuhan flue bear back as soon as possible. One thing is certain, airlines will never be the same . The world has gone mad this virus has exposed how mad the worlds leaders are. Donald Duck  versus Joe Alzheimers  Biden for the next president of Disney land

11 hours ago, Jimbo2014 said:

There is only one country Thailand really wants back.....  

Yes!  NZ Herald detailed article yesterday said China figures for c19 were ten times higher than they reported and something like close to 100k cases still active , surprisingly a billionaire minister wants them to return to los. Seriously this would be the nail in the coffin for Thailand’s tourism . I would say that 75 percent of thai’s don’t want Winnie wuhan back from China . Once’ bitten twice shy

On 6/4/2020 at 1:25 AM, SunsetT said:

At New Year and the week or 2 afterwards, one of the 3 times annually that I stay in Udon, there seemed to be more farangs around, and not just in Soi Sampan (Bar Street?), than there have been for a couple of years. But what the future holds is anyone's guess!

How’s the Irish Clock going, I think it would survive, as to soi faluung some bars might close and reopen later with new tenants 

5 hours ago, habuspasha said:

Thank you, Rooster.  Great read--as always.  As an American I've been struck by the way George Floyd's death has triggered responses throughout the world.  Surely long overdue in the States, but why everywhere else?  My first answer was that it reflected global angst and anger about America's new isolationism and disavowal of responsibility--a chance to deflate American claims to exceptionalism.  But I am pleased to see other countries taking the opportunity to explore their own traditions of racism: Australia and the Aborigines, Britain and the Raj, France and Algeria.  Are their no similar developments in Thailand?  

New Zealand has been protesting and tearing down statues in an act of what deputy pm Winston peter’s, himself Maori call acts of lunacy. He says you should learn from the past, not destroy it 

9 hours ago, Tropposurfer said:

Agree! To those who peddler hoax ideas like this pandemic is some sort of liberal leftist conspiratorial hoax take a look at the numbers out of Spain Italy Brazil and the next terrible phase that seems to be unfolding in the US to see a glimpse of what would have, and might still happen, if this things is not taken seriously.

According to my relatives in Hua hin there is no problem with c19 they say the problems are Bangkok and Issan

as the bar girls fled home from Phuket and other parts . The numbers touted for the virus remain in the shade, we may see a second wave when the girls return 

19 hours ago, worgeordie said:

So now they have found the Phone,which was in her bag

all the time, but they were looking everywhere for it ,and

first reported they could not find it. what a tangled web

we weave....

regards Worgeordie

Maybe ,just maybe someone important gave the phone to mr plod

3 hours ago, ukrules said:

This is going to be fun, games, finger pointing and quite possibly a blame game as to who brings the first case to Thailand from inside the 'bubble'.

 

 

This will be Show Time!

14 hours ago, ukrules said:

Of course it will have a zero effect on the spread of COVID-19.

 

Right now there are ZERO cases of COVID-19 in the country outside of the quarantines, or so they claim.

 

They've walked themselves into a trap by announcing zero infections over an extended period of time and there's no clear and easy way out of this situation for them.

 

Removing curfew will not in any way change the fact that there's zero COVID-19 cases in the country, the number will continue to be zero regardless of what people inside the country do.

 

The only way there will be new COVID cases inside Thailand now is if the government allow them to enter from abroad.

 

When that happens everyone knows who to blame.

 

Seems to me, the government is very keen to let the Chinese back in, I wonder if he will let NZ citz in.

If he does let Aussies and Kiwis back in then the problem would be flying in as there won,t be flights and the NZ govt will not let you back in until the border is regarded as safe.

On RT news yesterday the Russians are set to release a drug that they are testing that stops the effects of c19 on the lungs, the very thing that kills people is when the lungs cant process oxygen to the blood.

So that may be  a game changer due to be released in July.

If Thailand opens the gates again to China and recieves a second wave of c19 then tourism will be in complete chaos, chaos like in America and Britain where the virus and the people are still going crazy.

NZ latest score , no new cases for the last 20 days, 1500 0dd total cases recorded-- no active cases, 21 deaths of which 10 were from an old peoples home.

I hope I can come back soon.

Cheers to all you guys, keep clean and Healthy.

16 hours ago, smedly said:

took the 5 months to figure out

 

so how many were/are infected in Thailand and how many have died undiagnosed ?

I watched a interview with 2 top experts on c19 and they said asymtomatic people are healthy people 

17 hours ago, SkyFax said:

And just to note, on the Forbes list of The 100 Safest Countries In The World For COVID-19, PR China is ranked #7.

New Zealand has no active cases an no new cases for 20 days now. 20 deaths, so why are we ranked 9th. Switzerland ranked number 1 and they     now admit to making a big mistake over not locking down, the virus went through their old people’s homes killing 33 percent of their dead. They have high infection and the virus is still active there so the poll is a crock 

15 hours ago, KhunKenAP said:

A superior office had to tell them to widen the search area? Are all low ranking police incompetent in Thailand?

 

Now they are considering a covered body as a possible suicide. Guess that question I just asked has been answered.

 

I personally think it was the mushroom picker. There was another news report earlier about a mushroom picker finding another body. Do we have a serial mushroom picker murderer, or a copycat? Police must look at this as another possible theory.

 Could be, forensics would be able to tell if there has been any sexual contact or cause of death, I think you do not kill your self and cover your own body 

18 hours ago, andre47 said:

Thailand has already a list with countries of low risk.

China with Hong Kong and Macau
South Korea

maybe they will add

Taiwan
Australia
New Zealand
Vietnam

Europe and USA for sure not, they are still high risk areas and this probably will not change until we have a vaccine

Okay assuming that they add New Zealand and Australia, there probably will not be flights available ,and if there are they will be expensive , then if you manage to get to Thailand you will probably have to go into quarantine when you return .Nz and Australia are not going to allow their people to travel at will to Los when covid19 countries like China that the virus originated from are flooding through Thailand’s borders.It would be senseless said Scot Morrison and Jacinda Adern would Agee .

19 hours ago, steven100 said:

OP ;  as with THAI airways, there is also a cash flow problem being played out here. They don't have any cash to run daily operations domestically, let alone internationally. 

They are currently in the hands of receivership or voluntary administration.

 

I seriously doubt they will be even operating in August.  Why do you think they keep pushing the date back ?

 

" In any case, the rehabilitation plan must be approved by creditors before it can be carried out. If the plan is not approved, the court will issue an order canceling the rehabilitation process, and the automatic stay will lose its validity. "

"It is therefore unclear how Thai Airways will emerge from this process," 

I am currently stuck in NZ we have 2 thai students with us. They’re flying back to Thailand on Thai airways on 17th June to reunite with their parents . Cost 3600$ nz each,so thaiair are still flying plane Limited to120 passengers 

9 hours ago, phkauf said:

THAI hasn't flown to the US in maybe 10 years so that excuse is nonsense. THAI debt held by some of the leasing companies most likely is under US Law so they would ABSOLUTELY need to file in the US or just hand back the planes to avoid that. Also if THAI entered into any aircraft lease securitization that would also be under US Law, but I doubt they did that.

They want to avoid filing BK in the US at all costs since the US Bankruptcy Court will have zero tolerance for the type of shenanigans they can pull off in Thailand.

If THAI were to play games with the leasing companies, those aircraft could never leave Thailand at risk of being impounded. Imagine getting stuck at an airport in Europe with no plane to take you home is not good for business.

This will be fun to watch.

Quick solution! Impose a three thousand bht airport tax on the 65 million Chinese tourists set to flood back in, problem solved, next problem please 

15 hours ago, ChipButty said:

I find that hard to believe no Thai women involved, who opened the bank accounts for them and normally they are the one who pretend to be from the customs dept getting the money transfers

 Interesting that some arrests were made in Hua Hin I know an old guy there who has major problems with his wife’s invisable boyfriend who is going to do wonderful things for her .She has spent all her savings and wants to kick my friend out after being together for many years.I told her and him that the unseen BF was sitting inside a container in Nigeria smoking a havanna cigar,possibly may have been in Hua hin with his laptop and cigar 

17 hours ago, Quickmill said:

I don't see the big problem here, basically are simple and already in force hygiene and cleaning rules/behavior in the "regular" massage parlor or Spa, the only difference is the temperature check, and the mask, obviously the big room with many seats will be penalized, but this is mostly in tourist area and actually i don't think there will be soon a flock of tourists.

The small foot massage shop or a simple small massage shop will be penalized as well, but honestly, do you think that people are spasmodically waiting to get their foot massage again?

I think it' will be more give the opportunity to people to back to work....but how many are going to reopen, not because the difficult to respect the "restriciton"??

 

 I can just imagine undercover police policing parlours ,more likely businesse as usual as it can be,with fewer customers .I would still go to get a good foot massage 

13 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

Even more puzzling, then, why the THB continues to be so strong although the economic situation apparently is in such shambles. Something stinks.

 

 

One theory is Thbt is kept strong as the filthy rich are buying up overseas assets at large 

On 5/26/2020 at 7:48 PM, darksidedog said:

Given that pretty much the only cases here in the last 3 weeks have come from quarantine facilities, you have to ask why the continuation of the emergency decree? You can't catch it, if there isn't anyone out there with it, to catch it from. The only conclusion you can then draw is that power hungry regimes never like to give any freedoms back to the people once they have it. I suspect many personal liberties will somehow never be fully returned, such as large crowds, which very soon may be in the form of starving and angry mobs.

Don’t worry,there are plenty of people dying daily from pneumonia, not c19.Insider information paints a different picture.The second wave will come from China and Europe as soon as the borders open but don’t worry China has a vaccine that’s why the enlightened ones haven’t caught the virus, and it is true China are now testing the vaccine and it looks successful.Dont fret the high speed wuhan express will soon be opened delivering spitting smoking mobs to BK and Pattaya move over falung,falung go home 

On 5/22/2020 at 10:24 PM, Game Program said:

Heh low risk areas like China and Korea. The places that originally had the worst infection rates, while US has been almost no infection whatsoever at least where I live. Many people here where I live did not wear masks at all until it was mandated last month? And I don't know of anyone being sick here. The only really bad infection rates seem to be out of NYC. I've heard also some other states but I haven't heard anything about where I live.

 

From talking with my fiance and her telling me about cases in her town that she knows about and people talking about it. No one here talks about it at all. For me here other than the stay at home orders everything seems completely normal.

 

I would literally bet everything I have that I could fly there, do everything I need to do whatever, come back and never be sick like at all. I would bet all my money, everything. Already been there twice in the middle of when it broke out and I'm fine. So frustrating.

 

Funny you should say that ,I was on a plane from Chiang Mai to BK full of  Chinese in late January many had masks and many were sneezing.I got sick about ten days later with fever and low energy my wife also got sick.We recovered quick and went to NZ, where we are stuck now , no one ever got sick in the district here,hence  I think many have caught this and got better,probably a milder form and have now developed immunity.

On 5/24/2020 at 4:51 AM, kingofthemountain said:

I should be more concerned by the potential infected same pen used by hundreds of people to sign the form.

 

Anyway i am not ready to let anybody know where i go and what i do 

and i am sure the risk is 1000 far higher to be contacted for some ''promotions''

from the shops using the data than for someone infected by the virus in the shop at

the same time than me

(65 millions of Thais, 56 deads so far in 3 months, i am not that paranoid sorry)

 

Then for now i avoid every shop where the data collect is mandatory

anyway the malls are not a necessity at all for me, they were closed

during 2 months and i have hardly noticed the closure

According to a highly respected professional teacher in Esan ,things are not what they seem to be.They are staying at home and keeping their children at home.They say 2 scared 2 go out Another source from Bumingrad hostpital said more than the official death count went out the back door daily. Deaths are  being listed as pneumonia.Overseas newspaper says los Is covering up truth and the true death toll more likely up to 50000 plus. Otherwise why all the fuss at 7 eleven and malls.I think that the Chinese are driving this government and they want to open up the flood gates of tourism,a potential disaster .  

On 5/20/2020 at 10:02 PM, DrJack54 said:

Exactly. 

Just a guess but thinking next step will involve opening borders/airports to folk from  designated "safe countries"/states

That list will initially consist of China, Sth Korea, Taiwan, HK, Japan.

USA along with many others, no invitation .

Do you think New Zealand will be listed as safe country as they have Covid almost completely eliminated 

11 hours ago, mehrdad said:

good for one month more curfew and in night sleep better with quiet street and no teenage motorcycle racing sound ! 

Possibly because the covid19 situation is not as good as it is made out to be