But not relative to the earth. It appears to rise and set, but as we've known for 600 years, this is an illusion, as you say, caused by the earth turning on its axis. 600 years ago the Catholic Church burned people at the stake for proclaiming this "heresy". They're still pretty much at it today, maybe only metaphorically. But the current Pope's unwarranted lobbying is extremely unwelcome, to me, at least. Millions, if not billions, of people live in dire poverty and ignorance because of his outrageous bs doctrines.