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I have said many time that EVs are not for everyone and the test case I usually use is "can you do a self-checkout at Tops without asking for help" Charging an EV is definitely more difficult that handing over a 500 Baht note at PTT. Case in point a 900km return trip to BKK we were returning yesterday and shared the driving with the wife. While she was driving I purchased a magic keyboard from the Apple store. The transaction went through and I thought nothing more about it. We arrived at Korat and I used a BYD dealership to "Plug and Charge" my BYD Seal. Everything went fine until I tried to pay. Each time I got a message from SCB: "You are over limit for the day please change the limit at any SCB ATM" Changing the limits on my SCB app had no effect. Luckily I was using a BYD EV charger which said please clear the balance within 24 hours. Back home today I tried to buy a new mouse to go with my new keyboard and was informed again "You are over limit for the day please change the limit at any SCB ATM" Calling SCB I was informed that they thought my keyboard purchase from the apple store was a potential fraud so they had reduced my available balance limit to zero! SCB informed my that as I hadn't used the apple store in over a month they thought my transaction was suspicious. I told them that the AI engine they were using for fraud detection lacked any "I" and the next time they put a hold on my account please tell me that they had put hold on my account not that I was over limit for the day. The point I am trying to make that is that it might be worth topping up your wallets on a few EV charging apps before a long trip as you might not have access to your Bank account when you need it.
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Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
I was planning to do a video review of my new BYD M6, but before it was my time to have a play with the car my wife parked it at 7-11 at a "pump" She was returning to the car with baby in hand when a Nissan pickup truck reversed straight back 10m into the M6 barely missing wife and baby. Despite the desperate scream of my wife and shouts from passersby he continued his rearward trajectory into the car. Wife was quite shaken and it was left to the passersby to berate the Nissan driver over his near infanticide and also damaging a red plate, which apparently is a very unlucky thing to do in Thailand. He apologized and blamed the accident on his broken reversing camera! Wife called me and told her to: 1) call the insurance company 2) get photos of everything and everybody 3) get contact details of any witnesses 4) check the dashcam if she had left the Aircon on while she was in 7 Only number 1 was accomplished but it turned out we had the same insurance company which simplified matters as he admitted responsibility. The bonnet and the 2 sections below it had a big dent in them while the Nissan had a broken tail light. By the time I got there the lower two section which were plastic had popped back to their original shape. We have just got back from the body repair shop who checked the car and will be ordering parts from BYD. I will do an update on how things progress. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
BYD Atto 2 -
Practically the only H2 Fuel Cell car you can buy now is the Toyota Mirai which launched in 2021 and cost $70,000. "If you’re a resident of Southern California, you can, today, buy a new Toyota Mirai for $17,005. That makes it the cheapest new car in the U.S. Oh, and did we mention that Toyota is also offering $15,000 of free fuel?" https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlyon/2025/01/28/at-17000-toyotas-fuel-cell-mirai-is-now-americas-cheapest-car/ They literally can't give them away
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You need to cross H2 off your list for passenger vehicles. Fossil fuel companies were pushing it to try and stall the EV revolution but they were losing so much money on it that they are pulling out. "Shell scrapped its plans to build 48 hydrogen refueling stations for light duty vehicles in California. The company was in line for over $40 million in state incentives to install those fueling stations, but even that was not enough to move the project forward" https://cleantechnica.com/2024/02/10/shell-shuts-down-its-us-hydrogen-filling-stations/ I have gone all electric: 2 EVs; electric motorbike; I have an induction cook top; I use the same batteries for power tools, vacuums, and garden equipment and yet I don't have a PEA meter so no bills for electricity (I don't use gas) and no fuel cost for my vehicles if the journey is less than 600km. I installed solar 8 years ago and it took 5 years to payback.
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Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
I'm not an expert on EV Charging in CM as I've never charged there, so I would use an app like PlugShare. PlugShare uses a community based approach where members update the map as new chargers appear and they report any problems. My house is on PlugShare as one of the first EV chargers in my area for emergency use only As for suitability of chargers. The vast majority of EVs sold in Thailand have the CCS type 2 adapter and so therefore so do the vast majority of chargers. You can filter for them in PlugShare. -
H2 is a monumentally dumb idea for a fuel for passenger vehicles. Not economic. When I make power from my solar system to put in my electric car there is some small efficiency loss due to the inversion process, but over 90% of the energy ends up in my car. With current electrolyzers, green hydrogen's efficiency is around 30%, which means 70% of the renewable energy put into producing green hydrogen is lost across the full cycle of production and use. But you probably weren't thinking of green H2. The most common type of H2 is Grey hydrogen. It's made from natural gas or coal using steam methane reforming or coal gasification so it's basically a fossil fuel and way less efficient than gasoline. Really the only place in the world where you find H2 cars in any numbers is California and if you want to know how it's going there you should watch the video below
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Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Many people who don't own an EV seem to think that they are experts on all EV charger locations; EV Traction battery chemistries; Cradle-to-grave CO2 emissions of all vehicles etc etc. It must be the Dunning–Kruger effect. -
Interesting, seen Atto 3s in Europe on YouTube fitting the BYD camera.
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Probably the Thai built cars are different
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Congratulations on your purchase, I have 2 BYDs. You might find these discussions helpful: https://aseannow.com/topic/1310792-byd-seal-tips-tricks-and-help/ https://aseannow.com/topic/1279914-ev-charging-stations-cs/ https://aseannow.com/topic/1257405-electric-vehicles-in-thailand/ When the Atto 3 was made in China it had a dash cam built in but when they shipped them to Thailand they removed the camera. It was a relatively easy to buy the camera online and fit it yourself. Here is a video I made when I fitted one to my Seal
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Not only Grumpy but also ignorant of modern EV battery chemistry. BYD Cathodes use a LiFePO4 chemistry that doesn’t suffer from thermal runaway. LiFePO4 Drill Test by battery expert Will Prowse https://youtu.be/D8xNjz73p80
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My personal journey to electric vehicles began in 2019 when MG launched the ZS EV. I put down a deposit and MG sent the company that they had chosen to install the free wall charger to do a site survey at my house. The company wanted me to have 2 PEA meters, one for the house and another for the EV. I had a single small PEA meter for backup, but 99% of the time I was running the house from Solar. They refused to install a charger and it was agreed (once I had included the MD of MG Thailand into the conversation) that I could have a Plug-In Hybrid instead and charge it just from Solar. In 2023 BYD introduced the BYD Seal and I purchased an AWD Performance. In the picture below it looks like the Seal is plugged into the charger, but in fact it's plugged into the house using bi-directional charging. My home solar system had 36kWh of battery storage and the BYD had added 85kWh more, I gave my meter back to PEA at the end of 2023. In-between the 2 EVs you will see our electric motorbike. When the MG HS PHEV turned 4 years old I started to look for a full EV to replace it. We purchased a BYD M6 Extended Range which added another 72kWh to our back-up battery. As a second car it was chosen for practicality and price ฿899k
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Don't see that here Don't see that here Don't see that here
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Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
They're FB friends so most are friends in name only or guys I was at Boarding School with 40 years ago who hardly spoke to me then but now feel it's imperative that we rekindle our long lost friendship! -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
We sold it through FB rather than through the dealer as they just call round the local tents. The wife did a soft launch to her 1,600 FB friends (I have 110 friends by comparison) before posting on FB market place. Fortunately she had a already sold it to one of her friends before the FB market place time wasters had taken up too much of her time. The girl had never even heard of regenerative braking and she has booked my wife for an intro to plug-in motoring. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
We ordered a Seal RWD in 2023 and after a month of waiting, while all the time seeing the Seal AWDs getting quickly delivered to forum members here, we asked our dealer about an AWD and got it within a week. We recently looked at the Sealion 7 Premium and it is a lovely car if a bit much for a second car. Buriram BYD told us about 3 months delivery. We swapped to the M6 Extended that the dealer had in stock and saved ฿350,000. It only cost us ฿400,000 to swap a 4 year old PHEV with a 17kWh battery for a full EV with a 72kWh battery and V2L. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
I hope to get some time with the car in a few days when the red plate tour of extended family is concluded! -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Just got home with my Second BYD and 3rd plug-in car a BYD M6. The M6 sits in the shadow of it's more expensive and sexy Sealion sisters, the 6 DM-i and 7, but it is an extremely capable and we'll spec'd car for the price. ฿899,000 71.8 kWh LFP BYD Blade Battery Charging 115kW 8yr warranty car + 8yr battery 3 rows 7 seats 1,000L of boot space when the rear 2 rows lay completely flat. Those of you who were here when we purchased our BYD Seal in 2023 will know the ongoing naming debate in the Bander Household. We already had a Mot Dang (red ant) our electric motorbike. A Moo Dang (red pig) our MG HS PHEV and decided to go for "Water Cat" which is a literal translation of the word for Seal in Thai. Apparently เทา เทา T'Ow T'Ow (Grey Grey) is the best the wife could come up with after the metallic Harbour Grey colour of the car. Will post a review after we have driven it for a bit. -
Electric Vehicles in Thailand
Bandersnatch replied to Bandersnatch's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Eloquent? The statement lacked any support or citation. So neither articulate nor persuasive and therefore definitely not “Eloquent” Pilgrim? Maybe if he continues his wanderings to another place -
BYD Seal tips, tricks and help
Bandersnatch replied to macahoom's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Enter your starting battery % and log your vehicle type and ABRP gives good estimates of % at various stages. Enter your requirements for battery % at the end of the journey and choose short but many or fewer but longer charging stops I also find it less intrusive than Google maps eg "in 5km keep going straight" I'm not an expert - anybody else have any suggestions about ABRP? -
BYD Seal tips, tricks and help
Bandersnatch replied to macahoom's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Gbox YouTube while driving is a big hit with our little monkey. Don't worry I have no problems keeping my eyes on the road -
BYD Seal tips, tricks and help
Bandersnatch replied to macahoom's topic in Thailand Motor Discussion
Love using ABRP (A Better Route Planner) in portrait mode. If you use ACP or AA you can't use Portrait and have to pay for premium ABRP -
EV Charger Recommendations
Bandersnatch replied to carlyai's topic in Alternative/Renewable Energy Forum
Not sure where to post this, here or on the alternative energy forum as Crossy is a great source of info on anything electrical. When I had a 7kW AC powdered EV and a 3.5kW AC powered PHEV I could make enough power from solar to charge them both at the same time Now I will have 2 x 7kW AC chargers going at the same time. I was thinking of adding 5kW of PV+inverter and possibly a battery to purely run an EV charger. So I'm looking for a charger that will charge with whatever power it's supplied with. I know the MyEnergi Zappi can supply variable current in real time based on whatever excess power is being exported to the grid. Another option would be a couple of granny chargers. I know that you can buy variable voltage chargers, but I'm not sure if they change dynamically or have to be set. Any thoughts? -
I had no problems using the EleXA app, but hadn't used it for many months so tried today. Logged in and failed the scan my passport picture. My passport is 10 years old and I've just applied for a new one, hopefully will have more success next time.