Spellforce

5 minutes ago, Swimfan said:

There is usually a lag of about 4 weeks after infection rates spike for the death rate to start to increase

No that's only 14 days, look at the graph above about France:

- peak of the "daily new cases" = 31 th march

- peak of "daily new deaths" = 15 th april

That's also why the quarantines lasts 14 days.

For more information, please contact the Revenue and Benefits Department, Pattaya City from 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m. Mon.-Fri. Telephone number (038) 253148 -149, Mobile Line ID: 0839749584. 

            Or you can call to request the amount to be paid and transfer payments as details as follows 

            Account name:            Pattaya City 

            Bank:                           Krung Thai Bank, South Pattaya Branch 

            Account Number:        221-6-02322-1 

            Account Type:             Current Account

That Line ID doesn't work anymore.

Is it possible to do a bank transfer today (with that 90% discount + no penalty) and come back in september to the amphur when there will be less people ?

Quarantine in October while in January / February / March hundreds of thousands of Chinese spent their holidays in Thailand?

29 minutes ago, Berti said:

This whole article sounds like how they could use Phuket hotels as ASQ hotels when people arrive via Bangkok or Phuket airport.

Nothing more.

But this is a step in the right direction: allow foreigners to come to Thailand early september BUT isolate & test them for 14 days.
That's a very good news for many expats that want to come back to Thailand.

23 minutes ago, scammed said:

this will be my first 5 year DL, (my current is 2y) do i need medical or residence certificate ?

You only need to bring a medical certificate, residence certificate (= immigration), photocopies of your passport and your driving licence.

For a renewal 5 years to 5 years, a medical certificate is not required.

2 minutes ago, Oldie said:

What tests? The health check? 

Eyes & psychomotor tests.

Or maybe they stopped those tests during that covid ?

I think you are right, show an appointment to the police must be ok.

@topt

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

They have every right to judge whatever they like.

Many things will have to be cleared after that pandemic !

Thank you for this post, that's crazy !

I need to renew my DL for another 5 years in october.

- What happens is they give an appointment after the date of validity of your driving licence ? Can you drive after that date once your driving licence has expired ?

- If you fail the test, do you need a new appointment or can you come the next day (as before...) ?

Trump is running his country, he is doing his best to help his people get by.

Facebook is not a scientific institute, they have no right to judge scientific opinions.

On the other hand, fear sells, the price of Facebook shares has taken + 20% over the past 3 months:

1 minute ago, GAZZPA said:

absolutely correct, impossible to know. However for sure it is there, somewhere,,

 

Like the seasonal flu in Europe, you still have rare cases in summer that are not deadly so nobody test or care.

12 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

I'm pretty sure I had it as well and there was even a thread about who was experiencing flu like symptoms with many posts saying they were.

And we can not blame Thailand when early in January, Wuhan was lockdowned and China told the world that the virus was under control.

Back to the topic: the peak of the epidemic in Thailand didn't occured in march but much earlier. There are still some rare cases in Thailand but no more deadly cases. Thailand allready immunized after the covid started 7 months ago ? Who knows ?

2 minutes ago, rupert the bear said:

how many have died of no treatment policies that deprive people of simple operations ,care for cancer, heart problems etc etc.

Let me tell you my sad story, the only person that I'll see dying this year was my father:

- in november 2019 my father has been diagnostized for a bone cancer in Thailand
- he started is chimio in december at the Bangkok Hospital of Bangkok

- the chimio was not finished when early in january he had problems for breath, they tested him and found he had H1N1 (?)

- he had 2 weeks left with chimio but they stopped it to help him to breath

- 10 days later my father felt a little better, they did 4 days chimio (instead of 2 weeks) and asked him to go back home

- he had a visit planed to begining of march that has been postponed to end of april

- at home he still had that pneumonia, he felt worse and worse. Impossible to go to hospital in march, so I bought for him many bottle of oxygen to help him to breath
- end of april he came back to the hospital and they found that the cancer had spread to liver and lunged ???? they kept him for his pneumonia
- my father died in may

But I dont blame Thailand and the Bangkok Hospital:
- Later I learned that my father had that first cancer for more than 2 years (but he scared to go to hospital), his case was desperate
- China didn't alert Thailand in december/january about the covid-19, so the hospitals in Thailand were not prepared

1 minute ago, Bluetongue said:

I know I flew in on 6 Jan about three days later, sick as a dog for a few days, son who picked me up airport was sick as a dog after that, then the wife, by mid Feb.

Maybe in a few months, we'll realize that people who came to visit Thailand early this year were a major vector to spread the virus in Europe, USA etc...

3 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

I don't think any country has reached anywhere near it's peak

... but some other scientists are talking about the cross imunity, some countries close to China (as Thailand) could have their population > 50% immunized before that covid-19. So what previsions are the best, can we allready pretend to explain how is working that virus ?

I think today we can only observe and the fact is after the peak of the epidemics, deaths are falling.

1 minute ago, GAZZPA said:

Not sure what you mean.

My thought was about the topic: a few people coming back to Japan with the "thai" covid-19:

- the virus can't be stoped once one country has it

- is it really important to count the "new cases" / "imported cases" in a country who has allready reached his peak of the epidemic (= few deaths) ?

3 minutes ago, TeaMonkey said:

Who knows how many people have it when the main symptom is feeling absolutely fine. 

We have to observe: EVERY countries who have passed their peak of the epidemic then:

- there are still some new cases, no second wave

- after that peak, the deaths are ridiculeously low

Not any scientist can explain it, but that's a fact.

Is the process moving too fast for WHO?
If the global economy is on its knees, who cares about their methodology? Unless WHO still wants to defend the interests of the laboratories that sponsor them?

Congratulations Putin, make people's lives great again! ????

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Yes, and Thailand closed its borders, the US did not.

And Thailand closed its border to China in december/january/february/march when hundreds of thousands of chinese tourists came to Thailand with their covid-19 ?

Do you really think that the covid-19 has start to come in Thailand only in march 2020 ? Same month as in Europe & USA ?

China & SEA countries had that covid-19 at least 2-3 months before the rest of the world.

9 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

So your answer is to throw open the gates, and encourage the virus to come flooding back into Thailand from all the places in the world with far worse rates of infection and death... So Thailand can become more like the U.S. or U.K.???

You cannot compare because Thailand reached its peak of the epidemic several months ago:

Source: https://covid19.ddc.moph.go.th/en

48 minutes ago, fraggleRock said:

Well New Zealand thought they had cracked the nut, they are now heading for a very severe shutdown... Thailand will follow this model and crush the economy .... the military will get harder.   No planes in until 2022 at the earliest...

NZ & Thailand had exactly the same policy: border closed to tourists + 14 days quarantine.

Both countries were proud to announce that there was zero local new cases for more than 2 months.

And surprise in NZ with 4 new local cases in Auckland 2 days ago !
That clearly shows that the virus was still spreading in NZ even if the borders were closed.

No countries will stop the virus when they ban their international flights. The virus is everywhere in the world now, sooner or later it will come back in Thailand. Ban international flights is just a waste of time and money ?

In Thailand the virus was everywhere in february/march, I just hope Thai people are allready immunized.

PS; Thailand immunized because I believe in that cross immunity, that covid is a "local" covid for people in SEA, that could explain the few deaths in SEA & China... but that's another subject.

Only 59 dead in Thailand at the peak of the epidemic. In February / March I and a few of my friends got mildly ill. What's the worst that could happen even if the tourists were back?

I have not seen anyone go to the hospital because of covid-19, however what I see is that a Thai couple committed suicide in their house 500 meters from mine 2 days ago . They weren't as old as the deaths from covid-19. They had a restaurant business on a boat, but no more money because of covid and the lack of tourists.

This is the ONLY serious impact of covid-19 that I will have seen around me:
 

5 minutes ago, sambum said:

... and bring in a second "ripple"?

With the possibility that thai population & expats are allready immunized against that virus ? Time will tell... I really hope that this cross-immunity (cf. T Cells) is real.

31 minutes ago, DirtyHarry55 said:

... but of course more research evidence is needed.

I dont think we need a kind a scientific research to try to understand everything, because it's a new virus and there is an emergency.

What we really need today it to observe:

- observe the countries that had 1st the covid (China etc...): no 2nd wave, still some cases but the deaths count is falling
- Why countries in China/SEA had so few deaths ?
- Only HCQ helped to treat people, Remdesivir etc ... were a failure

- A new vaccine wont be available untill at least 6-9 months and wont be tested 100%. But for what if that virus starts to disapear and kills today only few eldery people ?