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Supachai is accused of embezzling several billion baht from the co-ops.

I hope they can clear all up,
recover the embezzled money,
and if the the suspects are guilty,
then prison without bail.

...... have visited Jomtien a few times. I've often thought about buying a small bar, like the ones you see near the beach on Jomtien,

- Sound like this would be your first bar, so no bar experience? (You know how to handle drunken idiots every night?)
- In Jomtien, an area you are not "familiar" with? (You know from who you will take away customers?
Many Thais see new competition as reaching into there rice bowl!)
- No powerful local thai friends, they could help you, just in case?
Without good connections to local VIPs - Forget it!

Perhaps an oversight?

Today I bought an item for 60 Baht and paid with a 1000 baht note.
The saleswoman gave me back 40 baht.
I told the saleswoman that i have given her a 1000 baht note and pronto she gave me 940 Baht back.

Perhaps an oversight?

If it looks like a pig and smells like a pig then it must be a .?

We all knew the G to G stuff was a political scam as were,deals such as Thaksin's Shin and Burma.

The term G2G was used in order not to reveal details of the transactions. In fact most of the time they sold the rice to local traders that were friends of the Shin clan at very low price. They covered up these transactions by claiming that they sold rice to other governments and therefor couldn't reveal figures.

http://www.capitalrice.com/index.php/riceupdates/archive/80

Yes and Nattawut was very busy with his transport business.

Estimated construction costs for Bangkok – Pattaya: 100.000.000.000 Baht (100bn)

before servicing, maintenance and operating costs.

Estimated fare, let say 1.000 Baht per Person

= 100.000.000 (100 Million) necessary Passengers, only to win back the cost of construction.

Pattaya estimated visitors per year: around 7 Million.

Lets say the train can attract 30% of all visitors for a single journey, is then 2 Millions

2.000.000 passengers / 360 days = 5.500 passengers a day.

So the construction cost recovery period would then 50 yeas without interest, before servicing, maintenance and operating costs.

Travel alternatives and market conditions:

- from the airport you can get a taxi for 2000 Baht to Pattaya, if 2 or more travelling together, the taxi is cheaper.

Furthermore you do not have to go to the train station and have to wait for the departure of the train.

The time advantage of the train can already be lost here.

- Many bus and minivan companies have fare prices between 200-500 baht.

There are already many pick-up / start points. Mo Chit, Sai Tai, Ekamai, Victory Monoment,

Khao San, etc. Also here the journey to the departure station can be a deciding factor.

- Many Pattaya visitors are weekend visitors and travel with there own cars,

usually several people together in one car, it is cheaper and much more flexible.

Just this simple observation makes it hard for me, to see here a return on investment.

Where did you get those numbers from? You realize that with cost of labor these things are much cheaper to build in Thailand than in the first world right?

People were going on and on about how the Airport link would be a failure because...numbers...just like they were going on and on about Skytrain. They continue to be wrong every time.

see Post 28

and

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/business/Pattaya-sees-drop-in-2014-tourists-to-7m-30228975.html

PM initiates idea to build high-speed trains to Pattaya and Hua Hin.

This will probably lead to very high costs.
To reach a cost-recovery revenue over the lifetime span, is more than questionable.
The ticket price would probably be compared to other, alternative transport options, too high.
The population (Pattaya / Hua Hin) and traffic numbers are simply too small.

First, they should better renovate and modernize the existing railway network.

The whole thing is a very controversial issue.

What worries me is that this double price system is prepared to splashing into the daily life.
To charge non residents (mostly foreigners (tourists)) 10 times more.

Our local chicken grill woman charge for long noses more.
She does not even ask for my resident papers.
Now I always send my Thai family to buy chicken.

Yes it does not break the bank to pay 10 baht more
But is that right?
Is that fair?

The avoidance of dual price systems would not raise this question.
Simple as it is.

You're absurd. All foreigners are supposed to carry their passports with them at all times, and all Thais are supposed to carry their ID cards or another acceptable form of identification at all times. So there's nothing absurd about requiring them to be shown, since everyone is already supposed to be carrying an appropriate ID. Also, not every nationality would have a different fee imposed. Perhaps only 20 out of the total number of possible nationalities would have a different fee imposed, many others would just be levied the same fee i.e. Samoa, French Polynesia, Vanuatu, etc. basically only the bigger nationalities would likely have a different fee imposed, besides, what are the chances of someone from say Papua New Guinea ever visiting a national park in Thailand anyway? And why should the fees need to be "updated"? They could just be kept static until an order declares they should be changed once a year or perhaps only once every 5 years.

Hey as I already said, Italy DID this. I didn't make it up, they DID this. So if they were able to do it, it doesn't mean Thailand or other countries couldn't. It's not rocket science either.

At border checkpoints the officers also have a manual printed list of nationalities detailing their visa, visa-free, VOA entitlements etc. so I don't see any reason why park officials couldn't implement a similar system. And oh, in case you forgot, there are these things called computers now where at the click of a mouse you could see what someone's entitlements are, rather than having to look through a printed list, like as if we were still living in 1965 as you might still be. What did you use to write your message then, huh?

As I've maintained before and most other people have stated, being fair and not discriminating against anyone, entitling everyone to pay the same price would be best. BUT, a system where different people are charged different amounts depending on their nationalities, while still in a way a form of discrimination would be more reasonable than the current system and as I've stated before it has precedence. It's been done before, it's nothing radical. So stop blasting this relatively simple to implement idea and learn how to use Google.

What Italy did in the past from what i can see is no longer true. One price fits all these days.

"One price fits all these days"

Far from it... Children and elderly get different prices - discrimination by age you could claim. Lower prices for disabled - why should they pay any less than able bodied people - isn't that discrimination against able bodied people? How about different rates for larger groups? Why should the individuals in a group of say 10 or more, pay less per person than those individuals in a large family group of 9? And of course Thailand, like some other SE Asian countries, also chooses to charge more to non-resident tourists, who it is reasonable to assume have much more disposable income than the 70 plus percentage (approx 48 million) of Thais who are classed as living below the poverty line. So one price doesn't 'fit all' these days.

From a 700 Million Baht budget for outdoor playground and children fitness equipment, slipped around 500 Million Baht in dark channels.
I hope they resolve this case more quickly and bring those responsible to be accountable, including reparation.
If they can recover some of the stolen 500 Million Baht, that would be nice for all Thai children.

Next they should try Sukhumvit 11. Another area infested with these morons.

On a separate note, it's not easy to 'take a video as evidence'... some of these morons carry weapons (and I mean some more damaging than a stick) and have no qualms about using it.

F..k the parks.

But that learns others to do the same.

... to charge (10 times) more.

This double price mentality will spread and scatter in the normal live.

To pay for water, food, transportation, etc a special foreigners white - black, long nose price.

That is discriminatory.

would it be discriminatory to charge for water, food, transportation such a price that only rich foreigners could pay effectively excluding locals from being able to eat, drink or go anywhere ?

Discrimination means excluding a person or group from something through actions.

No farang is being excluded here.

They are not being charged such an amount that they could not afford it.

the simple measure of discrimination is -: Is anyone being disadvantaged ?

If you are in such a pathetic way that as a foreigner you cant afford $15 entry fee to a national park, then you need to head home

That is NOT discrimination

I wish you a lot of money in your life.

There are also many european students who have long saved for their S-E Asia journey.

They would maybe like to visit many parks.

But they are not so rich.

Maybe they are disadvantaged?

F..k the parks.
But that learns others to do the same.
... to charge (10 times) more.
This double price mentality will spread and scatter in the normal live.
To pay for water, food, transportation, etc a special foreigners white - black, long nose price.

That is discriminatory.

..... billionaire self-exiled former premier Thaksin Shinawatra

self-exiled or a convicted criminal who used the granted freedom on bail to flee?

No one should be discriminated against because of sex, parentage, race, language, national or social origin, creed, religion or political beliefs.

Yaowapa Wongsawat and Chalerm had exactly the same amount of net assets... to the last baht... really?

These are the declared assets.

Which institution checks the consistency, accuracy and traceability of the declared numbers now on?
Can it be that this do not exist?

Release of in-stock Thai rice will not affect market price, says Minister