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This is something that would never happen in LOS. Let's say the 800,000 or 400,000 is deposited into a special type of account that is locked up and can only be touched with the approval of Immigration. In essence if one gives up the Non Imm O retirement or marriage then the money is released. In such a scenario because the money is locked the annual extension could turn into a simple renewal process. For instance going to the local immigration office and pay the renewal fee (of course the fee would be much higher than 1900 Baht) and submit a form that indicates nothing has changed. Of course thinking efficiently is not a common thing in LOS. I can see the same type of extension process that currently exists staying for a long time. Just a wishful thought. I ponder on this because the PI SRRV has a smaller deposit requirement but a high application fee and high renewal fee. The SRRV application fee $1400 (over 47,000 Baht) and the simple renewal fee is $360(over 12,000 Baht). When I say simple, I mean simple. Because it is "always about the money" this idea might fly if Thai culture was willing to consider ideas from other countries. Now back to reality. "Just keep an open mind"? Never in the Land of Smiles.

You are so right. Getting along is more important than being right or even correct. This was a difficult lesson for me to learn. I realize most of the Thai people I come into contact are not interested in my life story, my work history or even my travel history. A polite hello, take care of the business at hand and politely leave until the next time.

Get along fine with most Thai people as long as the contact is brief. Get along with the people who work in my apartment building and the usual places that I go on a regular basis. Never had a Thai friend because it just seemed like they were confused because I am an Asian guy who spoke fluen English and claimed to be an American who is a life long fan of football(the ones where people wear hemets) and baseall and not cricket. I try and avoid having confrontations wth Thai people and for the last several years have been successful on this front.

I never invited anyone to do anything. Just replied to you. Why would I "summarise" anything for you? What is this a final exam and you are the test proctor?

Since you and I were not there so only the other passengers could testifty to Penny's actions and Neely's behavior. Some testified at his trial. The jury considered the totality of the evidence and rendered a verdict. Due Process was achieved. Still it was an orderal for Daniel Penny. If I was Daniel Penny I would have gone bankrupt paying lawyers to defend myself. This is now called the "Daniel Penny" effect. AKA Do not get involved. I have seen similar cases in my time in LA where the District Attorny did not file charges. So this is my perspective. Lastly I have never been called "Mr. Tough Streets" because I never was. People who aspired to be "tough" rarely lasted in my former profession.

So are you talking about murder( the killing of another with prior intent) or are you talking about the death of another during course of protecting others? Which is it? Daniel Penny feared Jordan Neely posed a threat to passengers on the subway so he he put Neeely in a control hold and waited and waited for the tranist police officer to show up. So this means to you that Penny is now guilty of murder? The jury found him not guilty of 2nd degree murder and this was a just verdict. Have you personally dealt with an "erractic and loud person"? I have many times and these nonviolent people can turn violent in the blink of an eye. I have over 20 years of dealing with people who were not violent until they became violent. So how many years of dealing with "nonviolent" people do you have? I have two decades of worth in the streets of Los Angeles. I can absolutely relate to Daniel Penny. Can you? Yes, If someone commits homicide that cannot be justified then they should go to prison. But Daniel Penny's actions were justified. The jury felt the same way.

So Daniel Penny intended to killy Jordan Neely? So you were in the same subway carriage and can confirm Neely was not violent and did not pose a threat to anyone? Wow, you must have been in NY at the same time? I never said I would not get involved. I said I have doubts about getting directly involved after what Penny went through.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Thailand Is this acceptable to your standards?

Thailand has never been colonized. Has a long history that goes back centuries. Just look up it on the Google.

I was asking the question? I believe it does.

After seeing what Penny went through my thoughts on getting involved have changed. The thought of me just jumping in and assisting has been tempered. My gut reaction is if I was on that train I would have tried to assist the lady on fire. As I recall most subway trains have fire extinguishers? Did anyone at least look for the extinguisher? The more I think about this incident the more it disturbs me. In terms of not getting involved I guess one might think about these scenarios. On a subway one can exit at the next station or run to another carriage. On a moving bus the only option would be break the window and jump? On a moving train the only option is the next carriage. Or wait for the nesxt station. The most vulnerable place would be an airplane at 30,000 feet. In this instance I would get involved. I guess one must decide before such an incident occurrs. Lastly the suspect's immigration is secondary. Yes if the suspect was not in the country then he would not have been on the subway. But there many in America who are legal who are just as capable of doing the same.

Some are not in great health, are mobility challenged and do not own a car. Just something to think about.. Also no two Immigration offices are alike. Some offer great service and some do not. It's like whatt Forrest Gump said "like a box of chocolates".

You are not alone. About a year ago I got the same message. Rejected and come to the office. I now go in person and do the report. Transparency and efficiency are not the hallmarks of the Land of Smiles. This would be an issue if one lives far from the nearest immigrtion office.

Did you execute a head slap? You would have been justified because he posed an imminent threat to your safety. Spitting on someone is an assault.

I heard from an American who was actually studying in Japan and he said in order to rent an apartment a Japanese person had to be something like a guarantor or reference. He was not clear on that point but he sounded like without a Japanese person a foreigner could not rent an apartment in Japan. Have you heard something different?

If you did retire in Japan what kind of long term visa would you pursue? I have researched it and the only options for long term stay in Japan seems to be: 1) Marriage(no way) 2) Employment (too old and Japanese companies do not like to hire Gaijin anyway 3) Education (Doubt I can I actually get accepted by a Japanese university 4) Japan has somekind of long term visa that the government does not publicize?? My guess is wealthy people would know this but I am not wealthy.

The numbers were probably higher in the past. Like the generation that actually built the country.

Where did you get the IQ stats from? I have known some dumb Japanese people. I have some distant Japanese relatives because Japan occuppied Korea (when it was the Joesen Dynasty) from 1910 until the end of WWII and some in my family line were "invited" to work in Japan.

Thailand does not a have long history with a complex cutlure composed of educated people?

Japan is purely a tourist destination and LOS is mix of tourists and long term visa holders who are probably counted when they come and go. My point is I believe the numbers posted by the Japanese governmet.

Great points and it just seems their is resistancce or unwillingness to adopt methods and procedures that other countries have proven to be effective. Is this the "truey Thai way"? Countires like Japan and S. Korea were in utter shamlbes some 80 to 70 years ago and look at the progress both have made by learning from and adopting ways introduced by other countries.

I guess quality and safety beat cheap and easy? Also, Japan is rather expensive and really cold for 3 to 4 months per year. Japan is truly amazing because it can beat LOS for the number of visitors inspite of high cost and at times cold weather. Also, Japan like most truly modern countries have few long term visa options. I can only think of marriage to a Japanese national, studying at an actual school and employment as long term visa options.

Believe in God? Only when children die.

From what i have seen in my time in LOS is that sometimes older fathers are less involved in the lives of young children. I used to go to the same coffee shop in Chiang Mai for years and would see the same couple(much oder foreign guy and a much younger Thai women). The guy would drink coffee, smoke and stare into the street and the woman just drank her coffee. One year later the couple now had a baby. The mother took care of the baby but the old guy smoked, drank coffee and stared into the street. Next year the girl was now an active toddler and the lady who ran the coffee shop played with her and showed her love and affection. The old guy did the same thing. He never once even looked at his kid. Maybe he shows her affection at home but I have my doubts. Maybe he is the best father in the world when the family is at home. I never had kids and this is based upon my experience of never having lived in a stable home with an actual family. I did not want any kid to turn out like me so i had little desire to get married and have children.

If an old man has kids with a younger woman then at least leave enough money for the family to pay for the essentials of life when one dies. I wonder if the 69 year old had life insurance or savings that will provide for the family? I knew a guy who had his second family in his mid 50's. He died at 62 when his daughter was 5 but he had life insurance, his pension was split 50/50 with the wife #1 and #2 and the he left a significant amount in investments.