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I turned the offer of Sinovac and then AstraZeneca 3 weeks later. The reasons are as this: 1. As a rule Pharmacists and Doctors have always told me never “mix and match” medications. This includes the same medicines that come from different manufacturers. If mixing and matching is so great then why don’t I mix and match Flu vaccines every year or mix and match different antibiotics? 2. Based upon what Israel has done and what the US government has just recommended, Covid 19 Boosters will be implemented in the near future. So if I got one does of Sinovac and 1 dose of AZ then what vaccine will be my booster?

Thank you Mac.

"They still have a bus from CM to BKK twice a day" Mac, do you know which bus station in CM?

As usual "things are never clear" in LOS. Bangkok Airways canceled all domestic flight for August 2021. The only exceptions are certain flights for Phuket Sandbox and certain medical cargo type flights. On the other hand Thai Smile is still accepting bookings for flights starting on August 20??? Bangkok Air said they have canceled flight to comply with government orders. Thai Smile said they have to "confirm" the order before they cancel??? I need to go from CNX to BKK next week and I have a booking on Thai Smile and it looks they are going to string me along until the bitter end. I have thought about the Nok Air to UTP option but at this point I want to keep things simple and take the 10 hours ride by myself. This appears to offer the least amount of contact with other people. Anyone on TVF have any other ideas as to how to get to BKK from CNX?

"Do you mind if I ask why did you do the 5 tests? Did you have symptoms? " No issue with answering this question: 2 were in ASQ 2 were to check-in for international flights 1. was for a colonoscopy(it was hospital policy). I have never had Covid 19 Symptoms. I also completed a Covid 19 Anti-body test as well.

I am in the same sinking ship. Bangkok Airways is selling tickets for late August and Thai Smile is also selling tickets starting August 20(?????). Air Asia has canceled all domestic flights until August 31. I too have an international flight out of BKK in less than 2 weeks and I am in CNX. At this time it looks like I will have to spend between 7,000 to 10,000 baht for a "ride" to BKK. This is outrageous because my Thai Smile one way from CNX to BKK was 900 Baht. TIT, 555 and once I leave I am seeing fewer and fewer reasons to come back to the Land of Smiles(also did ASQ once in BKK this year and doubt I want to do it again). Good luck to all those who have to travel domestically because you will need it.

"Far better to pay to do your PCR at a travel clinic if you're worried. I don't think they're required to railroad you into hospital." As I said before these Home Anti-gen test kits are good initial screening tools. I do not have nor ever had any covid 19 related symptoms. I have had and paid for 5 PCR tests this year. All 5 PCR Tests came back as "not detected".

I bought the Roche Kit for 1400 Baht at Boots. The Kit contains 5 test kits. I have conducted two tests in 10 days. Both came up negative. I do not have symptoms and do not come into close contact with people but at about 280 Baht per test it is a good screening tool. I believe if you get two positive readings in a span of 5 to 7 days then a PCR test should be conducted. Of course if you come up positive on a PCR test conducted at a hospital or clinic you know where you will be going irregardless of any symptoms or signs of illness: The hospital and it will not be free for us foreigners. I plan to test myself at least once a week.

I would depart on a Wednesday, Thursday, Friday or Saturday. I would not depart on a Monday or Tuesday. I departed out of LAX and could not find a single Lab in Southern California that was open on Saturday or Sunday for Covid 19 RT PCR tests. I transited through Singapore. My specific flight departed on a Friday night at 1000 PM. My Covid 19 Test was conducted at 1100 AM on a Wednesday and the lab result was sent to me via email on Thursday morning. I did not have an issue at check-in or in Singapore. I did find a lab that provided RT-PCR test result in 4 to 5 hours. But the cost was $500. The 24 hour RT-PCR test was $175. This was back in February 2021.

" Italy in September 2019." China and Italy have had a long standing business relationship in the Fashion Industry. Italians designs are often manufactured in China. I believe in the recent past lots of travel between Wuhan and Milan. No direct evidence of any causal link but coincidence?

I believe everything the Chinese Government says??? and 555. Therefore, the Corona Virus was manufactured at Fort Detrick in Maryland. The Virus was smuggled into China during the 2019 Military Games by US Army Reservist Maatje Benassi(her life has now become a nightmare and for some time she was in hiding. Even CNN did a story on her). This is the absurd story that has been floated by certain members of the Chinese Government. The same government that publishes these great Covid 19 numbers and refuses to grant access to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. "Nothing to see here, just move along". Congratulations China, you are the global leader in Covid 19 response.??? and 5555555. Now back to Reality.

If you live near a Boots Pharmacy consider buying a Roche Covid 19 Anti-Gen Self Test Kit. The price was 1400 and the box had 5 kits. I did one and it came back Negative. It is a rather simple process: Nostril Swabs and mix into a tube with a liquid and then onto a test deck. You read the result within 15 minutes. Nothing makes me more angry then being falsely accused of anything. I hope this blows over for you quickly.

Pfizer and Moderna? The only thing I know is Pfizer doses are given 21 days apart and Modena doses are given 28 days apart. Both are MRNA vaccines.

I thought about this too but decided asking for something like this in Thailand is difficult. I am just going to get 2 doses of Pfizer when I get back to the US.

Richard Barrow tweeted about Moderna today: Sorry to say, but private hospitals have started to send out cancellation notices to some people that had paid in advance for the Moderna vaccine. People have 7 days to claim a refund. But they add you can reserve a 2nd generation Moderna vaccine due in April 2022 TIT?

Sanuk711, since mixing Covid 19 Vaccines is a good idea then would you be willing to be injected with the following vaccines in 60 days: 1. Sinovac 1 dose 2 AstraZeneca 1 dose 21 days later 3. Pfiizer or Moderna 21 days aftet AZ As far as I know this "cocktail" has never been tried. I wonder what the results might be be? Mixing Pfizer and Moderna seems fine but what about Sputnik+Sinovac+AZ+Pfizer+Moderna+J&J? What could go wrong? If we were in year 3 or 5 of the Covid 19 Vaccine history then more data would be available and the picture of mixing or boosters would be more clear. A sample size of 700 is not small but in terms of scientific research it is not large either. Scientifically speaking I believe presently the concept of mixing vaccines and even boosters have not been proven to be safe or effective. There just is not enough data. For me the safest course of action is to get inoculated with 2 doses of Pfizer or Moderna within a month and see what positive or negative effects occur. Hopefully I will see the results in about a month when I am back in the US.

But if you got 2 doses of Sinovac or a mix of Sinovac with Astra Zeneca doubt the EU or even the US will recognize the Thai Vaccine Passport? Even Kuwait does not recognize getting inoculated with Sinovac as being vaccinated against Covid 19.

"A picture is worth a thousand words". In this case 1.5 million doses of the Pfizer Covid 19 Vaccine are priceless. Also, this a great photo of my new and latest hero: The Great Michael Heath, the Charges d' Affaires. Good work Mr. Heath and I am so proud. 555

This line is the problem: "likely pushed until Aug 31"? Now I know why Air Asia and Nok Air have suspended domestic flights until August 31. But Thai Smile claims they will start flying on August 19?. Unfortunately I am booked on Thai Smile from CNX to BKK on Aug 26 in order to fly out of Thailand the next day. I wish all these Airlines could be consistent and just say it: No flights until September. At this point the only way to go will be on the ground. Of course it will cost a hell of lot more than 900 Baht that i paid to Thai Smile. TIT and 555.

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Mod666, I have concerns about mixing Covid 19 vaccines for the following reasons: 1. All Covid 19 vaccines have been developed and deployed in less than a year. This is lightning fast. In the US all Covid 19 Vaccines are used under an EUA(Emergency Use Authorization). They have not been fully approved yet. The long term effects(positive or negative) at this time are not known. 2. If mixing vaccines is such a great idea then why not take multiple doses of the Influenza vaccine from different manufacturers every seaon? "More must be good, right"? 3. I have been prescribed medications and have been injected with vaccines in the past for personal and professional reasons. Too much in a short of amount of time does not always result in the best outcome. The Thai Health Authorities can do what they feel is right but I am not onboard with the mix of Sinovac and AZ in less than one month. 4. I would prefer take two doses of either Pfizer or Moderna in a month and see what happens. If I feel little or no negative effects than I would consider a booster of the same kind of vaccine. To me this seems to be the safest course of action. Others will disagree. 5. I have been a victim of doctors over prescribing medications(antibiotics and pain killers). Therefore, I am now very cautious as to what I consume or let someone inject in my arm. For others my way of thinking is the wrong path but it has works for me.

I just got off the phone with Thai Smile and the representative said all domestic flight cancelled until the end of August. I have not found any official confirmation yet. I too have an international flight at the end of August from BKK to the USA. I am in Chiang Mai and found one company called “Red Ride” but it looks they only serve from CNX to BKK. I will have to try and book with them as soon as Thai Smile sends me a cancellation email. Now getting of Thailand is though as getting in??\

Mfd101, but the Brits, Germans and Israeli’s are not mixing Sinovac along with Pfizer or Moderna. If there are cases of mixing of Sinovac with AZ,+Pfizer and Moderna then I would be interested. But I have not heard of anyone who has mixed Sinovac, Sinopharm with Pfizer or Moderna. I would not prefer to be one of the first test cases? Only matter of time before I get fully vaccinated. Of course like you said “individual choice” and the benefits or consequences that come with it. Also, I do not need to classify the “brain capacity” of people to make my points. I try and live by the motto: Attack peoples comments and actions but not the person:”.

Mfd101, actually I have only a 1/4 brain and that was enough to to realize the best place to get vaccinated is in the US. I will be leaving shortly. Even the WHO(do not have much faith in them) said mixing vaccines is not recommended but in their noncommittal style said ‘each country can make it’s own decision”. The US at this point does not recommend mixing vaccines and the idea of 3rd dose(a booster) and only Israel has started this option. I would rather mix and match Pfizer with Modern or J&J. Now I have to rest my 1/4 brain. Also, do you think it is a good idea to be injected with Sinovac, AZ and Pfizer all within a matter of months? I am not ready to be test monkey for vaccines.

“I'm wondering if CM is a dumping place for Sinovac ?!!! Coincidence? CM Ram is delaying 2nd doses of AZ for those who given the 1st dose of AZ in June 2021. CM Ram has only been inoculating those who were able to register through the Mor Prompt app. Also, any consequence if one turns downs the Wall of CM offer of mixing Sinovac with AZ? I do not like the idea of mixing Covid 19 vaccines. All the vaccines were developed within the past year and really no one knows what the long term effects(positive or negative) are? I would feel safer with the 2 doses of the same vaccine for now.