Chelseafan

16 hours ago, wavodavo said:

The vaccines are free so I dont have much symphathy for the anti vaxxers.

Mrs Chelseafan has been offered Sinovac, she, like most of her village won't take it as they've heard 'horror stories' and don't believe it will protect them. They're paying up front for Moderna which according to the local hospital won't be available until Sept/Oct. They aint anti-vaxxers but have made up their minds, rightly or wrongly that Sinvac is no good.

1 hour ago, TimBKK said:

Place is becoming insufferable 

Yep, just like the rest of the world has been for the past 18 months!!

22 minutes ago, Chill27 said:

Amazingly, this "Official Insurance" doesn't even comply with their own requirements of 100k US.

3.2 million baht cover, equates to less than 98k US,

Exchange rates when it was set probably.

6 hours ago, club said:

It just goes to show you how much they will do ANYTHING for the China. Why would a small  country like Thailand want to buy 2 submarines in the middle of a pandemic? When there is no military threat. When Thailand needs to use their money on vaccines . It makes no sense

You dont build your armed forces DURING conflict, you plan ahead.

Why does an even smaller country like the UK need subs ?

But I get your gist.

18 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Almost as bad as the numbers in the vaccinated UK.

Current daily average UK new infections 37k

Cases in the UK | Coronavirus in the UK (data.gov.uk)

Yes but how many are dying ? Around 30 or so a day, tragic as that is, its nowhere near the 1200+ a day back in January when we had similar infection rates.

Say what you will about this Government but they've managed to get it right with the vaccine rollout.

2 hours ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Utterly devoid of charm and it won't change for years no matter what bonkers schemes the out of touch elite propose. 

Don't underestimate their ability to out-bonker their bonkerness....

Another thing that annoys me is that I support my Thai family and probably spend over a million baht a year doing so. I have no problems with this but it's a lot more than the Thai government give to my family -Just think, a million baht that trickles down into the economy creating jobs, paying wages, putting food on the table.

And yet, I am worthless to them. They want EVEN MORE from me for a 10 year visa. No thanks. I'll stick to the retirement/marriage visa when the day comes.

1 minute ago, JamieM said:

Seeing as they are buying the subs from China one can only assume that they think the west is a threat.

 

A threat to what exactly who knows what they are thinking? Doesn't make sense to me either.

Whilst submarines do of course have combat abilities, their primary purpose is for intelligence gathering which in this case would be for China.

9 hours ago, CANSIAM said:

Wonder if the Admiral and Czar have had any thoughts that the Subs in question may have been hardwired, Beijing sitting back and tracking all their subsea movements in the Gulf of Thailand - South China Sea..........

My thoughts exactly and should China and Thailand ever go to war, I bet they are not as advanced as the Chinese subs .

10 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

how about coast guard ships and search and rescue helicopters instead of this total nonsense. 

or vaccine for everybody.

Radical thinking like that will get you far....

10 hours ago, Rookiescot said:

Protect the country from who?

Filthy disgusting, Covid-ridden farangs of course...*

* Not the rich ones. They're wonderful people...

14 hours ago, EricTh said:

This is the principle of microbiology that is well known even among the medical students.

 

Straight from the horse's mouth (Dr William Moss of John Hopkins Vaccine Center) in the video below.

 

 

The evidence is in the spike of cases in UK, Israel who had most of their citizens vaccinated. The devastating effect in India caused by Delta variant is well known.

I'm talking deaths not transmissions.

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

Actually there's plenty of evidence that shows that the vaccines are less effective against the Delta variant

 

How well COVID-19 vaccines work against the Delta variant, according to the best available data

https://www.businessinsider.com/delta-variant-covid-vaccine-effectiveness-protection-pfizer-moderna-astrazeneca-2021-7

 

That said, even though the leading vaccines are somewhat less effective against infection, they still are effective. Even more so against hospitalizaton and death.

 

It's death prevention  I was on about.

2 minutes ago, KhaoNiaw said:

Israel saying that efficiency of Pfizer in preventing symptomatic disease dropped to 64% against Delta but still highly effective against serious disease and hospitalization.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/israel-confirms-vaccine-less-effective-against-delta-variant-eyes-third-dose/

That's about spreading of the virus rather than deaths, Sorry if I wasn't clear.

21 minutes ago, placeholder said:

 

29 minutes ago, EricTh said:

Apparently, some people are not interested in knowing the truth. The truth is that all the vaccines are less effective in dealing with the new Delta strain.

 

Anybody with some knowledge of antibiotics know that when a new more resistant strain of bacteria comes out, the old antibiotics will become less effective. So new antibiotics must be invented to deal with the new strain.

 

The same principle applies to vaccines, I am surprised no doctors in Thailand even pointed this out and just made conclusions blindly.

 

So the vaccines must be modified to deal with the new Delta strain. It's not rocket science but this has been made political by certain people.

 

 

Please show us the data that shows the vaccines are less effective against the Delta variant as I have obviously been misinformed by the leading sciencetists.

I do take your point in that if the virus mutates then there is concern that they may be less effective though.

4 hours ago, EricTh said:

To put things into perspective, changing to Astrazeneca for the second shot aren't going to change anything.

 

UK with a high rate of vaccination with Astrazeneca is seeing new cases rising due to the Delta variant.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57776814

 

The more infectious Delta variant now accounts for 99% of cases, according to Public Health England.

 

Around two-thirds of adults have now been double jabbed against the virus, and experts say this is helping prevent very big rises in Covid hospitalisations, although admissions are increasing.

 

Many of the infections being seen are among teenagers and young adults.

 

An estimated 400,000 people in the UK are thought to have been positive in the week to 3 July.

 

 

 

 

We knew this was coming as restrictions ease and Covid fatigue kicks in however the BIG difference is that whilst daily covid cases are similar to Januarys high at circa 32,000 per day there were about 120 deaths last week versus around 900+ per DAY in January. The vaccine is working although of course not infalliable.

We're going to have to live with it for the foreseeable future

4 hours ago, WhiteBuffaloATM said:

covid “cases” are irrelevant. covid presence/ deaths / hospital cases are relevant.

all covid variants are literally everywhere here. vax rates are relevant and pathetically low (5%?).

herd immunity years away here compared to nearly acheived in UK........

all govt. attempts to “contain” covid are futile; it cannot be contained, only reduced to flu/ cold levels

by vax / natural immunity / herd immunity......oh, vax & herd imm. hardly happening ......or is it ?

quite CLEAR  that thais have strong natural herd immunity....daily covid deaths “peaking” at 90

compared to what thousands dead daily at peak in UK ( comparable population).......

I doubt they have "peaked" and given Thailands ability to be economical with figures I would suspect 90 to be on the low side

The Max. that died in any one day in the UK was around 900. Data can be found here https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas/covid-19-daily-deaths/

The figures from the UK are those that died that were confirmed positive for Covid in the last 28 days so IMHO were probably exaggerated (tested positive but were dying with cancer for example). Thailand just reports deaths from Covid.

Having said that, I do agree that Thailand will not see the same levels of deaths as other European countries.

1 hour ago, OJAS said:

Worrying news more generally given their ages, I think.

 

Why? As I understand it, children can catch Covid, its just they're less likely to get serious symptoms or be hospitalised

18 hours ago, J Town said:

How about considering vaccinating ALL folks living in Thailand?

You sir are a genius, it's radical thinking like this that may get us out of this <deleted>. I'd vote for you

Seriously though, even if when vaccines become available it will be Sinovac. My missus and family have already said they aint taking it and are on the list for Moderna. According to her, many of her friends are thinking along the same lines.

Can't tell you enough to go private.

My wife had some stomach issues (thankfully not serious). The 30baht Doc told her she was stressed and sent her away with some paracetamol! You get what you pay for I suppose

On 6/26/2021 at 2:35 AM, scubascuba3 said:

I steam Grouper which reduces to about one third of it's size...so not sure how battering would go. Pangasius tastes earthy but half the price of Grouper

It's a bottom grazing fish (no jokes pls) so as you say, it will taste earthy. For me it has a similar taste to the Tilapia family of fish

The best fish I've ever eaten is Chilean sea bass (aka Patagonian Toothfish) and Sable Fish (aka Black cod), both have a pristine white flaky texture and have more flavour than Atlantic cod but you will pay through the nose for them.