Chelseafan

8 hours ago, robblok said:

So it was mainly circumstantial, that is what i thought. Does not mean he is not guilty. I have no real opinion in this case too many things are not clear. I mean what motive ? (no sexual assault)

 

Anyway if he guilty i hope they get him. Sometimes circumstantial evidence is all that is needed. 

Quite but the TV brigade have already decided he is guilty. Lets see what evidence there is before we hang him.

3 hours ago, skatewash said:

My understanding is that 14 day SHA Plus is the recommendation of the subcommittee that met on Friday.  Whether that is accepted without modification by the full CCSA committee early next week remains to be seen.  ASQ for the Phuket Sandbox is off the table as that implies quarantine.  The requirement to stay at a SHA Plus hotel is not quarantine.  People can go out everyday and do whatever is allowed at that time in Phuket but have to stay overnight at the booked SHA Plus hotel.  Up until the meeting on Friday it was assumed that would be required for 7 days.  At the meeting that period was expanded from 7 to 14 days.

In theory the full CCSA committee could go against the recommendation of the subcommittee and restore the required stay in an SHA Plus hotel to 7 days, but it seems that would require a reversal of sentiment.  Not that we haven't seen reversals of sentiment before, but it's probably not very likely.

Well thats me out then.

I have 30 days holiday of which 15 will now be in phuket, 10 in the UK leaving me 4-5 days with the missus and daughter in Issan... hardly worth it. Just hope another loony plan comes along soon thats a tad more paletable.

1 hour ago, skatewash said:

I don't know how appealing this will be for tourists. 

But, I think it will be appealing for anyone looking to return to Thailand.  Instead of 14 days in quarantine, people who arrive in Phuket (fully vaccinated) starting on July 1 it appears will need to stay in Phuket at SHA Plus approved hotels for 14 days but they will not be quarantined.  They will be allowed to do whatever is allowed in Phuket anywhere in Phuket as long as they stay overnight at the booked hotel.  Also, unlike ASQ and ASQL there is no built-in cost for services from a hospital in the SHA Plus hotels.  The visitor will be expected to pay for the day 5 covid test (5th day after arriving in Phuket), but there're no medical services fees and meal plans like that built-in with ASQ/ASQL lodging.  So, in theory the costs associated with 14 days of SHA Plus lodging would be less than 14 days of ASQ. 

This is just my understanding of the current proposal that was approved by the subcommittee today.  Very few details have come out.  I guess we are waiting for more details to come out. To be discussed and voted on by the full CCSA committee next week, according to what I understand.

So i assume that 7 day ASQ is off the table for Phuket. Its 14 day SHA+ or nothing ?

1 hour ago, Kasset Tak said:

And then they wonder how Thailand could pass the first wave of COVID-19 with ease but with the second and third wave it just went down hill...

 

Yes, wonder if they were charged over 60,000 baht for quarantine ?

It's what I've been saying all along. What is the frickin point of Quarantining tourists (other than to prop up the hotel industry) when there are illegals from Myanmar and Combodia bringing the damned virus into the country.

The whole thing is a farce....as usual.

7 hours ago, balo said:

KLM offer trips to Phuket in July for around €530 , via Amsterdam/Bangkok. 

I am sure some will be tempted. 
 
 

Doesn't it have to be booked as a package ?

Phew and Thanks ????

6 hours ago, kiwikeith said:

So you wait for the results to come in the next day, then the 3 day quarantine comes in, so where do you wait until the next day? 

 

Then after the wait and 3 days of quarantine you can sit in your hotel until you return to your home country. 

During this time you must not be in contact with any local people 

Special rooms will have a beach view, but walking or standing on the beach will be prohibited, as you may come into contact with the beach vendors, who have all left as they had no customer, long time, and are not allowed to talk to tourists from abroad. 

Now why can't the TAT be this informative....Thank-you ????

6 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

That's finished it for a while then .. 

 

I see what you did there. ????

Slightly OT and I know these are unprecedented times but I'm surprised EU countries have closed borders with one another especially when they constantly bang on about freedom of movement.

19 minutes ago, khunPer said:

Another aspect is that Chinese in average are spenders with a daily average of $192.84 (2017 figure); and Europeans are on the lowest budget, daily average $125.47; Americans came in second lowest with $147.32. Tourist from Middle East spent $190.60 as second highest, but they are relative few, and Asians excluding ASEAN spent $175 a day. Average for all nationalities it was $159.32, so from an economical point of view both Americans and Europeans are under average spenders, and might be of less interest compared to Asian and Middle East tourists.

 

 

I've always disputed these figures. Chinese pre-pay their trips and shop in malls on debit/credit cards so the data is easily collated. Europeans tend to pay cash which is harder to monitor.

Anyhow off-subject, Sorry.

5 hours ago, desert dueller said:

No shift in employment opportunities for locals, then. So who is benefitting? And can you visit a 7/11? Who staffs that? And what are "local people" anyway?

More importantly, can I get beer??

11 hours ago, bikerlou47 said:

The Thai government just does not understand the facts!

What is the point to limit travel to a person who is fully vaccinated and has test tested negative before the flight and after the flight!

Exactly. I read somewhere that only 0.6% of those inbound tourists have found to have Covid and they've all been quarantined/hospitalised which begs the question, where are these outbreaks coming from ? I can only see one reason - illegal immigrants from the surrounding countries.

This begs another question, if Thailand cannot control their borders then what's the point of quarantine for those who have been double jabbed?

13 hours ago, gearbox said:

 

Whoever was desperate to get back is already back with the 15 days ASQ.  There will be no tourists coming, but it will be easier for foreigners living here to go back to their home country and then come back if vaccinated.

Also what is this "stringent testing" for locals? If I go to the Taksin Hospital in Surat Thani for a day, do I need to do a PCR test when catching the last ferry back?

I'm one of those who are desperate to get back but can't afford another 10 days quarantine on my return to blighty.

Would love to see my wife & child...

Yep, too many unanswered questions.

Plus the 43000+ or so in the 'entertaintment' industry....

Daily News reported that RTP chief Gen Suwat Chaengyodsuk wanted to "check bin" on the incident at a luxury house in Pattaya on Wednesday in which two of his men were shot.

"In this sense he meant that he wanted to leave no stone unturned in prosecuting and getting to the bottom of the case. "

Strange, I've always assosiated "Check bin" as payback....

3 minutes ago, Justgrazing said:

 

As one penny said to the other 

" Let's get together and make some cents " .. 

And now Thailand is on Britains amber list there'll need to be " change " in the traffic lights for it to start raining dosh again .. 

Hell yes, who in their right mind is going to do 24 days in quarantine....

14 days is bad enough...

On 5/15/2021 at 8:59 AM, madmitch said:

https://www.bangkokairportonline.com/flight-status-arrivals-departures/

 

I am confused by this announcement. Are they talking about a full schedule? As you can see from the link above, plenty of International flights arrive and depart daily.

My guess is that they are arriving and leaving way below capacity and to keep the slots. Mrs Chelseafan flew back on Qatar last week and she was one of 30 or so people on board. I suspect they also keep the planes running to support cargo operations. If you count the flights between 6am and 3.40pm , there are only 25 flights, way way below the airports normal operating schedule.

11 hours ago, Optomist said:

Wrong

As per previous post, the missus has just arrived back from London and is in 14 day quarantine in Bangkok, she has been told by her amphur that she has to do a further 14 days when she gets back home

Perhaps you can enlighten us all as you seem to know better...

31 minutes ago, kingofthemountain said:

So they plan:

 

1\ To open Phuket to international tourists on july 1

2\ To open the rest of Thailand on october 1

 

then

3\ To resume international flights by november

 

ok, it makes perfect sense

 

TIT

 

To make it even worse. If you fly into Phuket, do your 7 days on the island then travel to the mainland, you need to do another 14 days self isolation as its in the red zone. That's how I understand it anyhow...