Chelseafan

12 hours ago, chilly07 said:

Reduce profits by paying a living wage, provide adequate housing, pay cost of quarantine and then more Thais would get jobs, infection rates would reduce and the consumer would pay the correct price for the product be it pineapples or fish. Whilst your about it reduce the prison population density by building more prisons and reducing the profit from enormously overcrowded prisons. IE make the top 1pc of Thai Society meet the true cost of their greed.

It doesn't work like that. Profits in food manufacuring tend to be razor thin thanks (in part) to retailers squeezing them for better cost prices, this then leads producers to cut costs in any way they can.

Now if consumers were willing to pay a fair price for a product then it may go some way to help manufacturers raise standards.

28 minutes ago, Phillip9 said:

Most places will let you avoid local quarantine if you leave 14 quarantine and travel directly to your final destination.  

 

If her local official still insists on another quarantine, I would have her attempt to contact someone higher up at the province level and see if there is a province wide policy for her situation.

I'll ask the missus to contact them, not expecting much though..

Mrs Chelseafan is now in Bangkok after spending some time with me in London. She is currently in quarantine for 14 days.

She is due to finish on 23rd May and travel to her home in Nakorn Ratchisima. Her local Amphur has told her that as Bangkok is in the red zone, she needs to stay in her home for another 14 days when she finishes her current jail time. Surely this can't be right ?

p.s. Ironically her father is travelling from Nakorn to Bangkok to pick her up but he doesn't have to do the quarantine....

7 hours ago, impulse said:

 

Is that on top of the 14% charged by the GPO according to the article, or is the 7% VAT part of the GPO's 14%? 

 

And will the hospitals have to charge 7% VAT to the patients?

 

Not that any of that's a massive deal...  As long as they allow private vaccinations to progress.

 

Yes, plus their markup...

1 hour ago, Twin Peaks said:

I am in the same boat minus the 10 days on return. The U.S. only requires a negative covid test prior to entry.

 

I have not seen my wife, daughter, pets, house, etc... in 16 months. How hard can this be? Vaccinated, test before departure, test on arrival, heck even test 2 - 3 days later. Certainly enough testing to show that my vaccinated a** is not importing covid. I'd even play the insurance game. She could easily come to the U.S. but we have decided neither one of us is making one another do quarantine. No way would I expect my wife and daughter go through 15 miserable nights locked in a hotel room upon return to Thailand, and vice versa.

 

If the Phuket thing does happen, I wonder what the rules will be? Can she come to the island or will Thais be blocked out? I am hoping it happens so I can at least avoid ASQ jail and move on after 7 days. I am willing to play their games just to see my family but lengthy 14 day ASQ quarantine will keep me away. What's the point in being vaccinated if I can't put it to use?

 

I live in Florida and the tourism business is booming here as people are fleeing lockdown states with endless restrictions to come enjoy some freedom after 14 months of lockdown garbage. The state has a population of 21.6 million plus who knows how many tourists, the covid cases yesterday were 3,456 with 49 deaths - enough to make the Thai gov't lose their mind. Yet everything is back to normal, mask restrictions are all but eliminated, vaccination sites on every corner, and businesses thriving. Vaccination is the key and yet Thailand is dragging their feet. Get a damn vaccine program for the entire country in place and move on with life.

Know how you feel, thankfully I have spent the last 6 months with Mrs & Miss Chelsefan as they have been in the UK however I've had to ship them back to Thailand last saturday as their visas expire. They are now having to endure jailtime with parole after 14 days in Bangkok and I'm not sure when I will see them again.

I'm crossing my fingers that Phuket does happen, not that I have ever wanted to go there mind you but at least its an option to gain entry. It's frustrating as I'm vaccinated but like you I'll do whatever it takes within reason but I'm not paying over 60,000k to be locked up in a room, I can do that for free here!!!

All I'm hearing from TAT/Government is different levels of noise, I wish they would speak from one voice and tell us if 1st July is happening or not, stop dithering. It's already bad enough that we have to jump through hurdles to get there.

7 hours ago, ezzra said:

Why would anyone would want to come to Thailand now is beyond me, what with all the restrictions, closed venues, rampant Covid everywhere and no end in sigh,t what are the upsides of visiting Thailand now?... 

Some of us have family in Thailand but theres no way I can do 14 days in Quarantine and 10 days on return.

One minute Phuket is happening in July, the next it's not. Have they flippin' decided yet? If so, is it 7 days on the island or 14 ?

48 minutes ago, starky said:

Sad story but again another one "stranded" in Thailand, begging to get home. No medical insurance? Or not covered? Doesn't really say. Seems a lot of people who live overseas particularly in SEA have no real interest in their well being.

 I can understand older people who just can't get insured which is rubbish  and short term stayers who veer clear of travel insurance as there is so many things it doesn't cover but to live overseas and not have the best private health cover you can afford is insane. I don't know if that's the case here neither article provides much info about the accident or his hospital stay. Thankfully he is now with family and friends.

The problem with insurance policies is that they have so many non payout clauses that they are almost worthless.

For example, I checked the small-print on my last policy and it states that it may not pay out if I have been drinking. It doesn't state how much, having said that I always insure myself on the off-chance that if I do require medical intervention my alochol level  is within "limits" ????

5 hours ago, Aarin said:

Why not waive the quarantine now for vaccinated tourists. Why wait for October, what will be different then? Philippines has already wajved the quarantine fir 5 islands and last week 2500 headed to Boracay. You better hurry before it's too late. 

Vaccinated or not, you could still be a carrier....that's their view anyhow.

I understand the quarantine. What I don't understand is why it takes 14 days and 3 tests...

11 minutes ago, MrJ2U said:

Sinovac hasn't released enough data and hasn't even been approved for emergency use by WHO.  Its cheap, that's originally why Anutin was told to get it.  

And there's me thinking he was getting into bed with the Chinese...

3 hours ago, smutcakes said:

The article said 88 nurses were given the vaccine.

Fair enough, I missed that.

On 5/6/2021 at 1:03 AM, friendofthai said:

Vaccinating with British AstraZeneca (produced in India) is the main reason for all of the problems. This vaccine only prevents severe symptoms. It does not stop the spread of the disease.
When they vaccinate everyone with Sinovac - the result will be exactly the same as in China - No COVID at all.

Rubbish on both counts.

Very happy he is caught but is the message,

"criminals will never evade justice"

or

"we, the police are incompetent"

5 minutes ago, canopus1969 said:

Fair enough she made the discussion so has to live with the consequences – we have a staff member who’s mother died recently but decided not to travel home because of the problems

You called her dumb for travelling - cap fits and all that

21 hours ago, canopus1969 said:

So she went on holiday to the UK during these Covis problems - cap fits and all that !

She came to the UK to see her dying father-in-law

3 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Spoke to my niece and she says she has been given an extension because the airline, which she has a return ticket with, is not flying that route.

Lucky. Unfortunaltey Mrs C. is flying with Qatar and all flights bar one have been running...

2 minutes ago, Surelynot said:

Overseas nationals who cannot return home due to the coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic will be able to extend their visa until the end of July to give them peace of mind that they can stay in the UK until they are able to return home safely.

The extension will last until 31 July and will apply to anyone whose leave expired after the 24 January and cannot leave the country because of travel restrictions or self-isolation.

While the government has offered this extension to help those who are unable to get home prior to 31 July, those currently in the UK on temporary visas, such as visitor visas, should return home as soon as it is safe and possible to do so.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/further-visa-extensions-for-those-unable-to-return-home-due-to-coronavirus

Yes we saw this and that's why we asked however this is primarily aimed at those who cannot return to their countries because there are no flights.

Also, I don't want to get into the position when applying for another visa that it causes problems because of a possible overstay - despite what they say.