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13 minutes ago, marcusarelus said:
Actually I do know. They get the numbers the same way the USA gets unemployment numbers. By survey. No desire to go through a statistics training course if you want more information google how the government measures unemployment.
So either they ask people in which case that's incredibly inaccurate as people by nature will big themselves up or they take a survey of x people and factor up which again has a high margin of error.
That's why I take these figures with a huge grain of salt.
Someone mentioned that the data was taken from credit card transactions supplied by the CC companies. If that's true then again it's highly inaccurate as Farangs don't tend to use their credit cards in Thailand in the same way Asians do.
The question I have is WHAT makes up the daily spend? I somehow doubt your daily barfine is included in the calculation...
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2 hours ago, marcusarelus said:
ThaiWebsites.com is a human-edited web directory for English-language Thailand-related resources. Feel free to ask them.
In other words you don't know.
The data is coming from the Ministry of Tourism and Sports so must be 100% reliable!
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18 hours ago, jesimps said:
Couldn't be due to the high value of the baht, could it?
You said in 12 words what the article couldn't in over 500 !
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4 hours ago, JAG said:
Which reminds me, off topic but apropos of your post: Peter Sellers had his first heart attack shortly after he married Britt Eckland.
He Britt off more than he could screw...
My taxi awaits.
Please take tomorrow off ????
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5 hours ago, marcusarelus said:
Expenditures by day Chinese tourists, $192.84
Europe $125.47
http://www.thaiwebsites.com/tourism-income-Thailand.asp
Maybe they know and it's you that have zero clue. Anecdotal evidence is not accurate if you have better information please feel free to link it.
Please explain to me how they get to these figures...
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6 hours ago, terminatorchiangmai said:
TAT showing its incompetence again.
High season is in July - August and from November till April!
Even that they cannot understand , totally useless
July-August is considered low season. Though I'm not sure there are really any hi/low season anymore outside Xmas and New Year.
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Does anyone know if the figures that TAT give us every year include those passengers in Transit ?
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2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:
Why not go back to 1997, what was the exchange rate then?
Yes, that was a one-off due to the Asian crash. From memory I seem to recall getting around 85 for a short period of time.
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20 minutes ago, CNXexpat said:Then you spend a lot. Perhaps Chinese don´t spend so much, but more than an average western tourist. Here in Chiang Mai the Chinese stay in minimum 3 star hotels, never in super cheap guest houses or dormitories. A friend of mine has a restaurant near Thapae Gate. He loves the Chinese guests. They order 4 dishes for 2 people, western travellers often one dish to share.
In Chiang Mai you see rarely group tours. The most Chinese came with friends or family. They spend a lot of money at restaurants, markets, massages, shopping center and so on. Nearly nobody in Chiang Mai complain about them.
How do you know they spend more than a western tourist ? Westerners spend money in resturants, markets, massages, maybe not so much in shopping centers but I bet they make up for it in other activities, scuba diving, girls, drinking etc.
And how any westerners REALLY share one dish between two of them? come on!
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17 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said:
No smoking at beaches, no smoking near government offices, etc... and no this, and no that. Who wants to go to such a place?
And God-forbid if you bring in a vape-stick!!!
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1 minute ago, CNXexpat said:
I wonder why the Le Meridien in Chiang Mai is full of Chinese tourists and they pay the normal room rate of minimum 5,000 Baht per night. Also the other 5 star hotels are full of Chinese. But the dormitories are full of western tourists.
Tourists are not interested in the political system or the human rights of the vacation country. They visit China, Cambodia, Turkey, etc. - all not known as democratic countries.
Do you really think they are paying 5000 a night? And even if they are, taking one hotel as a snap shot isn't the reality of the situation. The same can be said for the Hilton in Pattaya or any other of the 4-5 star hotels in Bangkok. Those establishments will always have affluent customers but what about the other thousands upon thousands of smaller hotels?
Luckily there's Airbnb...no wait ????
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18 minutes ago, British Bulldog said:
Huh ? Europeans, Chinese and others all decide not to come to Thailand because of a sway of 1 or 2 baht difference to their respected currency .... come on ... try pulling the other one. (International exchange rates at 30.80 to the USD this morning) the Aussie dollar dropped heaps this year, but it doesn't stop them coming !
I agree to an extent. It certainly doesn't stop the likes of us going there but to the families who have never been and are planning their vacation I'm sure they are carefully reviewing websites with regards to how much bang for their buck they are getting. It's not the main reason but I'll bet it's part of their decision making process.
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2 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:
Not true, Aug 23 2015 the £ was 55.86 the best it had been since I moved here in 2011.
Absolutely true. Go back to 2002 and it was 75-80+ to the pound. The baht has steadily strengthened over the past 15 years or so.
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25 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:I'm waiting for a Frenchxit ;
but we have no French politician with enough balls to start it;
Europe as it exists is an aberrationit was already a wobbly thing when there were only six countries in it, now it's very big no matter what.
Let's not make this into another Brexit thread..there's enough of those already ????
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25 minutes ago, zydeco said:
The UK could always petition to become a US Territory. Sort of like American Samoa.
Rather ironic as the US was once a UK colony ????
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19 minutes ago, Nong Khai Man said:
I Bet You fly in 1st Class Then ??
Yes.
Not very insightful for my 500th post.
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1 hour ago, marcusarelus said:Wake up Chip Butty. Average Chinese length of stay 8.08 days. Average spend Chinese $192, Europe $125.
http://www.thaiwebsites.com/tourism-income-Thailand.asp
That may be true but what they aren't factoring in is the casual expenditure, drinking, eating out, accommodation, girls, etc. This money trickles down into the Thai economy.
I'm by no means an average spender in Thailand and travel 3-4 times a year spending around £8000 per two week trip (including flying with Thai) giving an average daily spend of circa $725. Plenty of 'farangs' of similar ilk. Can the same be said for the Chinese?
I would love to know what factors make up the TAT's average daily spend.
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4 hours ago, madmen said:
No black eyes and broken nose? That's a first.. Maybe it really is becoming the family resort
He's Korean.....The Thais know what side their bread is buttered,,,,
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4 hours ago, Cadbury said:
Chickens of the Prayut military government coming home to roost I suspect. Plus the baht factor.
Thai exports sliding into serious negativity despite the countless jaunts PM Prayut has made to foreign countries to try and drum up export trade. Seems like only yesterday that Prayut and his cronies were bragging about how well Thai exports were going.
Contrast that with their neighbour Vietnam which has an average export growth rate of 17.9% for the period Jan 1998 to May 2019.
Yep. I've moved all my business from Thailand to Vietnam especially as the EU removed the GSP a few years ago.
If the Government doesn't do something soon there are going to be a lot of factories going out of business over the next few years.
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1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:
This is just hand luggage right, I thought this was the case for years?
I thought so too. I think most of us are conditioned to fly with less than 100ml of liquids that it's second nature.
Can see big delays though as the Thais will typically ignore all the signs/posters...
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3 hours ago, MadMuhammad said:I believe it’s called a deterrent..... no?
Well they came back so obviously it doesn't work.
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Seriously, do they need to parade this stuff ? Yes, they have broken the law (and given they are Chinese will probably not have done any prison time) but it doesn't need a big song and dance about it. I don't know of any nation on earth who create such theater around immigration
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6 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:
Do you want to pick an older or more irrelevant article??? They talk about Orient Thai and One-2-Go! One-2-Go haven't flown for about nine years!!
Thai has always been able to operate flights to the US. It wasn't able to expand to new routes while the CAA was red flagged and its processes were under review (nothing to do with Thai Airways safety standards), but that was resolved years ago.
But carry on. Maybe next time post an article that says Thailand is yet to reach the jet age and is still using propellor planes - how typical of Thailand to be lagging behind!!
You sure?
https://onemileatatime.com/thailand-fails-faa-safety-audit/
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1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:
It can. I have boarded it from the airbridge several times.
thought so.
TAT chief blames high baht and lack of Europeans for drop in Thai tourism
in Thailand News
Posted · Edited by Chelseafan
Good man ???? Though the asians are probably doing the same thing....