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4 minutes ago, tebee said:

Schengen has absolutely nothing to do with whether a lorry will be checked or not  as it has nothing to do with the movement of goods, but is solely concerned with the movement of people.

 

Indeed, lorries are checked entering Switzerland, which is part of  Schengen, simply because it is not part of the CU.

Stuff from Thailand will be checked because  Thailand is not part of the EU!

 

However lorries going Dover-Calais are not checked and just give a simple declaration of what they are carrying. 

That is simply not true, lorries going into Dover-Calais are checked randomly. I should know, I'm a buyer and have my lorries stopped, scanned and on rare occasions offloaded.

Edit : I will say that most go through without inspection, just paper-work checks.

Edit Edit : Yes, I shouldn't have mentioned Thailand but the same can be said for product shipping from Greece for example.

1 hour ago, puipuitom said:

The heavily fortified and unpassable border between the EU member states Belgium and Netherlands… Same between EVERY two EU member states. ONLY at ports leaving from the EU towards the UK there is a check for illegal passengers, but NOT for merchandise. Till of course 1 Nov 00:00:00 h

 

But for the moment: at NO INTER-EU BORDER anything is checked, not on lorries, nor in private cars or persons. Even forbidden ( only for a temporary action) Read EU regulations . ONLY and ONLY for outgoing towards the UK seen illegal migrants. Just look at the first the best video about the (un)loading in these ports. Brexiteers… not the slightest ideas about the present reality.

 

Sorry, you're wrong about the UK. Goods (not just migrants) can be inspected and off loaded coming into and out of the UK through an EU destination (Calais being the major one). I'm not saying every lorry is checked.

58 minutes ago, puipuitom said:

But for the moment: at NO INTER-EU BORDER anything is checked, not on lorries, nor in private cars. ONLY and ONLY for outgoing towards the UK seen illegal migrants. Just look at the first the best video about the (un)loading in these ports. Brexiteers… not the slightest ideas about the present reality. ( stuck at the early 70's when the UK was not an EU member state ). Advise: learn to check with Google or so, e.g. with "inter EU border checks ". 

I would advise your learn to check Google again with "Inter EU border checks" as this only applies to Schengen. The UK is not part of Schengen

My lorries are pulled for screening all the time at Dover. My consignments from Thailand that arrive into any UK port are randomly inspected.

3 minutes ago, tebee said:

No and no.  This is the wonder of the single market(+CU) the most advanced FTA in the world.

 

...and why some of us think it is madness to leave it . 

So you're saying NO lorries get checked at Dover/Calais and No Lorries get checked at Irish ports ?

1 hour ago, Mavideol said:

in order to make a deal with the US, China or anybody else the UK has first to exit the EU and than it will take some time 9anybody's guess ??) to make trade deals, sometimes up to 10 years, what will the UK do in the mean time

I see you mentioned "up to 10 Years" - which is the time it took Canada and the EU to agree on a trade deal.

It won't take anywhere near this. Its much easier when you have one country negotiating with the UK than 28 countries negotiating with Canada.

8 minutes ago, flossie35 said:

The problem is that if  the UK leaves the single market while Ireland remains, you have to have a hard border. Otherwise all the nasties let in by BJ's trade agreement with Trump- chlorine chicken and the rest - could spread into all 27 EU countries, none of whom, quite rightly, want this junk. There is and never likely will be technology to solve the problem. Border checks require real people to rummage around vehicles looking for contraband, prohibited goods, trafficked people etc. And there are over 200 crossing points between N. Ireland and the Republic.

But don't we have border checks for good entering into Ireland (North and South) by sea already ? That's what I don't understand. Also don't lorries get checked at Dover/Calais ?
 

Btw. Nothing wrong with chlorinated chicken per se. The reason why we don't allow it is that the abattoirs in the US don't typically have the same standards as those in the EU and it's the lazy option of chlorinating chicken. If we allowed it here then the thinking is that our standards would decrease also

5 hours ago, SteveK said:

Wouldn't happen to be in Trowbridge by any chance or Peasedown?

Nah. Norf Lundon mayte.

I have the same issue with a neighbour in the UK. Total weirdo who will shout out "f@@king c@@t" as loud as he can at any time of the day. He is reclusive and hardly ever leaves the flat but after a few heated exchanges I realised there wasn't anything I could do...except buy  a pair of these

Not cheap but they are effective at allowing me to get a decent nights sleep

4 hours ago, Traubert said:

Hurrah!!!

 

Godwin's Law in only post #6.

 

Chapeau comrade. ????

 

 

Shouldn't the thread be shut down ? ????

7 hours ago, Victornoir said:

46/43 it is a small majority, still within the margin of error.
It should be noted that Boris's shattering statements have their effect on both the pound and the unit.

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Not only that, the sample was small at just over 1000 people. Huge margin of error.

I would think you can use the Thai booths. Usually there is someone coordinating "traffic flow" so if in doubt ask them

5 hours ago, bluesofa said:

From the UK highway code page below, you can see the stopping distance increases from 73 metres at 96km/hr, to 96 metres at 112 km/hr.

 

(click to enlarge)

 

Theres a couple of points here.

The braking distances were set in the 1960/70's where cars were god-damned awful. Technology has come a long way since. Secondly, there is no way anyone is going to leave a 96m gap on the M1 driving at 70mph as cars will fill that gap up very quickly leading you to have to brake to let them in. I don't disagree with the information, its just not practical in today's age with more cars on the road.

5 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

You must know where the nest is because you seem to be in it with the rest of us.Speed kills. lt's definately a major contributing factor to the death toll.If you only reduced the speed at which people travel to 50 kph the death toll is reduced it's a fact.I'm not talking about reducing the speed limit but the actual speed.Idiocy is people who say speed doesn't contribute to the death toll and does in fact kill.

Please explain to me then why the Autobahn is one of the safest road systems in Europe with around 1.6 deaths per 1billion of KM traveled? I'll tell you why, the drivers are better taught, have better awareness, look after their cars (including brakes), follow the rules of the road and don't tailgate or make sudden unexpected maneuvers.

I agree that crashing at 150kph will have more than an impact than crashing at 30kph but I bet you the majority of collisions in Thailand are alcohol/drug/phone induced or through very poor driving skills including sudden braking, not indicating, not looking etc.

3 hours ago, Chiang Mai Bill said:

Speed plus idiotic driving does though!

You don't need speed to kill someone using a car.

3 hours ago, BobbyL said:

Lucky Somchai. 

 

Disgraceful sentence. 

Lucky Wealthy Somchai