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Snatch - I noticed this today which might be helpful to you : " . . . . if you want to preserve your car’s battery life, the AA recommends not letting the battery drain below 25pc or charging it above 75pc, which is more convenient when you have your own EV charger." Doesn't that actually halve the quoted range on an EV (if you follow the advice? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/consumer-affairs/switching-electric-car-took-months/?li_source=LI&li_medium=liftigniter-rhr

Snatch, 'your replies are 'testy' (to say the least) and defensive'. Why would that be ? As for 'ultracrepidarians' whatever that is, it could be extremely offensive and may apply more to yourself by the look of it. Such 'ultra' can come at a young age too. No point in trying to be reasonable with you. I admire your project and will be interested to see how it turns out. Myself, I have mains power and diesel at will Mr Cleverness. It is a shame you have to be nasty as your videos are well done. ATB

Snatch your replies are 'testy' (to say the least) and defensive. Yes I watched your videos and well done - I admit to not understanding much about electrics and I'm not alone there. Good luck with your project.

Bandersnatch thanks for the excellent videos and you are obviously knowledgeable on the subject. As you might remember (?) I'm not an EV Fan but I can see the ups of it. For me, specifically on your set up - that would worry me. I am not an Expert BUT my instincts would be against overworking the batteries in this way and will that speed up the ageing process? Have you yet had to replace a battery in your EV's. I wonder what second-hand values might be when the vehicles get to 4/5 years old. But Good Luck - looks great. ATB

So that's "according to a new model" - I guess it must be true then Whether mRNA vaccines were actually advisable to counter at that time, the much milder Omicron variant, is a moot point, (it's MHO that the vaccines might have been justifiable against the earlier fierce versions of the virus, Delta and so on).

Ikke on a fierce descent like that, the brakes can 'burn' and fade ?

Neeray - Perhaps he was driving OK but the brakes failed. I am reminded of the long steep descent travelling south from Korat to Kabinburi ,after Wang Nam Kiew, which is an excellent road. All the trucks seem to go down at 1-2 mph but there are still accidents. A fearsome load he was carrying. No need for a baseless jibe. R.I.P. poor chap . . . .

JB - Ha ha. No not a bigot. Waiting for a viable alternative. Gweilo - yes that's stated fairly by non-EV Folks too. In fact - the thread was about the wisdom of a widespread rush to EV. Low maintenance costs - yes, until you have a battery problem . . . . Yes Vinny - thanks. So production being transferred to China ! Transam - yes ranges are overstated Khun LA - I'm glad you are getting on well with your EV. BFN

Interesting comments from the USA here as EV 'buyer remorse' strikes. I read some time ago that VW was cutting back EV production in Germany. New solid state battery tech from Toyota looks very interesting but is 4 years away from market - assuming it works well. Toyota talk about doubling mileage and much quicker charging times. That WOULD be very interesting. Let's see. Even if batteries improve massively, EV's for everyone won't be possible for other reasons. Meantime - ICE for me.

JB Chiang Rai - congratulations on your decision to run EVs and whilst you have now had 3, EV's are still in their infancy so let's wait and see before dismissing other views out of hand. Norway is a notably rich country with a small population. Just be clear - 88% is of EV sales not the EV proportion of the total vehicles on the road which is about 20%. You say, "we have mastered Lithium batteries" but oh no, we have not. It seems they have mastered us ! I'm glad to hear your daughter's insurance was reasonable, but in other Countries, this is already becoming a major problem. And I wonder what will happen to secondhand values on EV's as experience in Thailand develops. Yes you are getting cheap motoring, (short journeys only?) but let's see how it goes. Coming back to Norway here's some more https://www.norwegianamerican.com/unintended-consequences-electric-car-fires-on-the-rise-in-norway/ Always remembering it's the intensity of, not the frequency of fires in EV that is the problem.

No doubt this has been 'thought through thoroughly' by the Thai Govt and maybe reflecting the obvious wisdom of the UK Labour Party, in similar vein, intending to return the EV deadline for new sales, back to 2030 ! All this as "Electric cars risk becoming effectively uninsurable as analysts struggle to put a price on battery repairs" and "catastrophic fire can take place if the cells of the battery have been damaged in a collision". Apparently current (pun intended) advice in the UK dictates that damaged EV be kept a minimum 50' foot apart in repair yards. Apart from the recent drama at Luton Airport https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12653297/luton-car-park-airport-shocking-images-devastation-fire.html . . . two huge ships carrying thousands of cars have gone up in flames, apparently because of battery electric vehicles. A fire on board car carrier Felicity Ace in February 2022 led to the vessel sinking in the Atlantic, along with its cargo of 4,000 vehicles. From the DT - "Someone who really does know the answer is Professor Peter Edwards. He holds the chair in inorganic chemistry at the University of Oxford and tells me he is extremely worried about the “real danger” posed to the public and emergency services by lithium-ion batteries. . . . Prof Edwards believes there is a “concerted campaign” to demonstrate how safe EVs are, regardless of the evidence. “Official statements discounting any possibility of battery fires are issued in unwarranted haste after any such event." Prof. Edwards worked with Prof. Goodenough, regarded as "the Father of the Lithium Battery (who) told colleagues in Oxford that he didn’t think a mass rollout was wise because of the considerable fire hazard. How lucky we are that our country’s entire future energy strategy isn’t riding on an invention that can explode at will and cause fires it’s impossible to put out. Oh dear. Time to go into reverse gear, don’t you think?" " https://www.telegraph.co.uk/columnists/2023/10/18/electric-cars-ev-sleepwalking-into-disaster-battery-fires/ EV's will be alright for some Folks but I doubt the wisdom of EV's as part of Govt policy, here or in the UK and elsewhere. How does this stuff take such a hold !! Has thinking been abolished ?

I've lived in Chantaburi for 10 years or more. It's a prosperous area of fruit farming, gemstone trading, seafood etc. Laem Sing beach is 17km away and there's mountains and waterfalls around too. Many great places to eat, the Koffe House music restaurant (fabulous), Zi Punto for Japanese style food, abundant seafood places and excellent shopping. It does have a nightlife area but as an early drinker I hardly know it. We live in a quiet 'gated' area which is very popular. We sat waterside overlooking the sea back to Laem Sing beach last evening, fresh crab, green curry etc., 2 beers and a sunset, for THB 800 last night - Au Samet Dang restaurant - a beautiful spot. Expats around but few compared to up the road ! It's a great place to be I get around Thailand a bit on trips too - to break the spell.

How much hedge have you got ? (length and height). I agree with OP - a battery model is a great idea - cables are a bind and it's hard to avoid the occasional sever !

Timoti - "Also do you know if using a personal medical ECG device is enough for diagnosis? Almost like a holter but have time limit like 10 min for each recording. Using holter i never managed to capture episodes." I don't KNOW Timoti but IMO a self-diagnosis approach is NOT advisable. Go to any good Hospital and get them to test you appropriately - (BTW I was tabbed up for a Holter for 48 hours so 10 minutes is not likely to be helpful at all.) And this - "AI analysis in the software of the device i have says my ecg have everything under the sun . . . . " Again - Go to any good Hospital and get them to test and analyse you appropriately. You don't mention what these 'episodes are. Please put your kit in the cupboard and go to a Doctor ! Good luck . . . .

Bassosa - I remember mentioning my age here but of course, I'll be too old to drive at some stage, as you will be too, if you are lucky. If you have an EV I hope you enjoy it but it certainly wouldn't suit me, as I travel from Chantaburi to Lamphun, Kanchanaburi and Korat regularly - pit stops only ! The recharge fiasco would 'drive' me potty. If fears about fire, insurance, battery replacement, water ingress, parking costs etc. prove overstated as our experience grows, I might consider an EV for local work only, should I be fortunate enough to reach my 'dotage'. ATB

Khun LA - that's interesting - if you can replace modules - hadn't heard of that AA/AAA/Z+ ? On a different tack - Maybe parking EV will have to be on the ground floor only in times to come ? In the DT today - talk of higher parking charges for EV "More spacious parking facilities will be needed because of the risk of fires.With councils increasing car park fees all the time, often for dubious environmental reasons, parking your car can already be prohibitively expensive. But the switch to electric vehicles could well make it pricier still. According to a new report from the consultants Arup, our car parks may need to become a lot more spacious because of the risk of fires. Simply put: parking spaces will have to be bigger, or cars will have to be parked further apart, because of the danger of electric battery fires spreading out of control." https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/18/electric-car-revolution-to-get-even-more-expensive/ Many other points in that link.

Hi again David - I've just read Sheryl's links and it seems Dr Nademanee might be back from the USA now and is based at Bumrungrad, (which I had also visited before my operation). That's good news as to his availability. I'm sure you can ask for him but he will have a top team around him no doubt. ATB

Sheryl - spot on with your recommendation there. Dr Nademanee did a catheter ablation for me in 2013. When later discussing it with an eminent Doc in Bristol, UK, I was surprised to hear that Dr Nademanee was regarded as the top expert worldwide in this field and in fact holds the patents for much of the technology in the equipment. So Dr Nademanee would be ideal at Bangkok Heart Hospital. I understood then that he had practices in the USA but in addition, visited Thailand for some months each year to work. He may or may not be available but BKKHH no doubt have a competent team. BTW, I remember waking up as the Nurse was dressing the exit wound at the top of my leg and eating a hearty lunch an hour later. Good luck !

Retarius - about 10.00 am - good post !

Thanks Vinny - Hadn't seen that but maybe the Driver can tell us what he was driving ! Bandersnatch - I posted the video to show the vehicle burning in the 'aisle'. As for the Fire Officer, yes but investigations are in early stages - I'm not even sure if they've accessed the unsafe building yet. Whatever is proven to have started the fire in the end, there is no doubt that EV contributed to this unprecented conflagration. Shocking !

Has anyone else seen video footage of the original burning vehicle at Luton airport? It appears to be in transit not in a parking space. Therefore it had a Driver (presumably) who should be able to identify the vehicle involved. With 1200 vehicles and a car park written off, I think it would be nice to know . . . . A slightly dodgy video IMO, but the picture of the car on fire, if genuine , is curious . . . .

An echo of a comment from Billd earlier - in the past it would have been possible to visit the British Embassy and get an 'Emergency Passport' - hopefully such help can still be obtained in genuine circumstances. Years ago, I got one from the British Embassy in Lagos, Nigeria which allowed me to leave the Country and they later helpfully recovered my original passport from my Employer, (a very powerful Man), and returned it to me in the UK. (I then returned to Nigeria to work for another Company). Snoop - you've gotta ask at least ! Good luck.

I thought you might also enjoy this B :- "Car park spaces should become wider and burning electric cars dunked in baths of water, under proposed government guidelines to prevent battery fires spreading out of control. Ministers have been told that battery-powered vehicles pose a medley of risks in indoor car parks, which could render 1960s-era fire safety laws dangerously out of date. Areas of concern addressed in a government-commissioned report included explosions of flammable vapour clouds emitted by electric vehicle batteries, as well as jets of fire and toxic water run-off from firefighting. The report, from consultancy Arup, which makes a series of recommendations for changes to fire safety rules, said that there was a “high degree of uncertainty” about data on the fire risks of electric cars and that it is “not yet understood” whether their batteries become more of a fire hazard with age." And : "Solutions presented in the report included increased space between parked cars as well as greater distance between indoor car parks to manage the risk of fire spreading between cars and buildings. It said indoor and multi-story car parks should adopt larger parking bays to help firefighters reach burning vehicles, with one example in the report proposing a 90cm to 1.2 metre gap between vehicles. It comes as residents of a Labour-run council in London fight to block plans to build an electric bus garage under a development of thousands of new flats amid fears battery fires could cause a “volcano”. " The same article refers to an incident in Potters Bar in May 2023 when six electric buses were destroyed when one caught fire. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/net-zero/burning-electric-cars-dunked-baths-water-stop-fires-spread/ That's it ! ATB

Hi Bandersnatch, I'm not sure why you have posted that link to the Fire Service report which I find inconclusive. The last I heard, the site of the fire had not yet been accessed at all due to the post-fire instability of the whole car park structure. I noted this from your link - "Bedfordshire Fire and Rescue Service’s fire investigation team will be working closely with Bedfordshire Police to get a better understanding of what happened on Tuesday evening, and why." Seems early days as to the cause . . .

Footnote : https://uk.yahoo.com/news/1-400-vehicles-burned-luton-143433280.html