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But frank, you haven't answered the question I have asked you twice already on this thread, which was, "do you believe that the 2020 election was "stolen" from trump"? I get it that you don't want to answer truthfully because then other posters will know exactly where you are coming from with your posts, as if they didn't already! And your answer is......

Still cannot find your answer to this question frank?????? Question for you: do you believe that the 2020 election was "stolen" from trump?

That I'm still alive to be able to post again is a miracle, well not a miracle, mainly because I was able to swerve out of the way on my Honda Click, when an idiot came round a left hand bend on the wrong side of the road whilst overtaking a truck, which he should not have done because he had no view whatsoever of the road ahead . He was going extremely fast and luckily enough I wasn't, so I was able to swerve out of the way, whereas he had nowhere to go – – it was one of those times when I wish I had been driving my car, because I would have wiped him out, meaning one less idiot on the road to kill someone else. Anyway back on track, despite the fact the traffic here is disgustingly bad, and I'm not the only one experiencing this, I decided to get a motorbike taxi out to meet a friend in Bangla for something to eat and a mosey around. We ate at Anema e Core as a change from my usual haunt of Blue Beach Café and Restaurant, which I still consider to be one of the best restaurants/venues here in Patong, with great staff and a great menu. Anyway this little Italian restaurant was good and apart from the very loud music emanating from the "Weed Shop" right opposite, the meal went well. After that we went to a little bar in Soi Sea Dragon, where a friend of ours works, and passed the time away there, until he met up with another guy and they went their own way visting other bars, whilst I stayed with our friend at the bar, until I decided to visit another friend at Smiley Bar. I was making my way home at about midnight, when I walked past Red Hot and the owner/manager beckoned me in, which I wasn't going to do, however I noticed two of the original band members were playing so I popped in, and a very attractive blonde woman came up to me and gave me a hug and said she remembered me from four years ago!! Once the lead guitarist (and original band member) saw me in the audience he beckoned me up to sing a couple songs, which I did and was so glad that I did because it's been many months since I did that, and I enjoyed it, as did the audience by their enthusiastic applause after a couple of songs, and I got a few hugs from the bass guitarist of the previous band who was in the audience!!! I felt good about the experience so may do it again! Bangla itself was busy, which it wasn't on my last few journeys out, and even the usually empty Soi Freedom had a few punters in it, which was good to see for the bar owners and girls in that Soi. Out and about in Patong, the smaller bars still seem to struggle to make a go of things, judging by the number of customers in them, and I do believe that quite a few of them will be up for sale shortly, if they aren't already in that mode, surreptitiously so. A little south of Makro on Nanai, what was once the Chang Residence hotel, which had been closed for almost all of the Covid period has been refurbished and apparently taken over by an Indian concern and I've got to say that they've done a good job with the refurbishment from what I can see, and although they have included a restaurant facing out from the hotel, it was barely used and over the last couple of days I have seen it closed, which would be a shame if it remained that way. Soi Sansabai is now a regular hub of new shops, massage parlours, shisha "bars" and a couple of new buildings, and because it's so busy it's very difficult to get down there in the evening, or come back up there for that matter, although it is supposed to be one way, it's used by whomsoever wants to go up or down it as there is no policing of it whatsoever. Something which struck me when I passed a few places over the past few days is that the pubs/bars which advertised "English breakfasts" and a few years ago would be pretty full in the mornings, don't seem to be doing the same business these days, so perhaps there are less English folk journeying to Patong, or maybe those that do are more health conscious than previous visitors??? Overall, Patong is now a completely different place than it was before the pandemic, although there are some buildings/roller blind shops that remain in an almost derelict state as a result of the pandemic, much of it has been improved/rebuilt so I can't say that the title "Patong – The Wake" is all that relevant at the moment, however it does give people the chance to comment on their experiences in Patong these days, so perhaps it does have a place?

And more good news for the trump supporters....... Donald Trump has been ordered to pay US$83.3 million ($136m) to columnist and rape accuser E Jean Carroll. The former president, 77, had been found liable for defaming the journalist by lying about sexually assaulting her in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room in the 1990s. The New York jury returned with a verdict less than three hours after beginning deliberations. Beware that he will start grifting again to help pay for this....NFTs anyone??

But you do believe just about everything that trump says!! Question for you: do you believe that the 2020 election was "stolen" from trump?

Lefties on here have no idea how much easier it is to find links to support even their most wingnut stuff Never in my life have I been called a "lefty", yet on here and on a similar thread it's the label I have been given! What the Maga nuts find hard to believe is that I don't have a particular political persuasion, but I will not support a dumb, liar and cheat like trump – – it really is that simple, but hard for those who follow trump, to understand, after all he is their messiah and cult leader, so everything he says, must be true – – yeah right.

There are many things that can be found on the Internet, and facts are one of them, however if you like to think that "Lizard people secretly run the world and we have proof" then you are obviously the sort of person who Trump likes to have as his supporter (look that up if you wish), AND one generally hopes that intelligent folk can see the difference between facts, backed up by facts and nonsense backed up by nonsense publications. Oh, and "common sense" should be able to sort out the wheat from the chaff, in the main, however I understand that this can be difficult for trumpies.

Many times when I have been waiting in line at a checkout, with only one or two items, a Thai person has offered me to go in front of them to check out, esp when they have a load of items. Very civil I have to say.

I like the Waitrose Gold blend teabags, nice and strong for a morning starter.

I agree with that statement.......but would also like to see him held accountable for his misdemeanours and crimes. And he's lucky cos orange suits him!!

How about........"the government now charges, Trump “perpetrated three conspiracies”: one to defeat the lawful federal government function by which the results of the presidential election are collected, counted, and certified; another “to corruptly obstruct and impede the January 6 congressional proceeding at which the collected results of the presidential election are counted and certified”; and yet another “against the right to vote and to have one’s vote counted.” Then there is the unlawful taking of classified documents, some of which were found in Mar-a-Largo, plus other fraud/tax charges. So the orange clown is in for a busy time!!!!

If not, then everything else goes downhill In this particular instance maybe.........but plenty of other cases lined up for the orange clown to deal with!

Very amusing, it is to laugh, whist you accuse me of "repeating all of the anti trump msm outlets word for word", even if they are true, you repeat and believe in the trump/Maga nonsense. Read Truth Social much???

Sad man........you are too far down the rabbit hole to understand what the orange clown has done. No more kool aid for you!! Take a look at the Walker88 post a little prior to this if you want some truth........ Those of us who think trump is a self-serving, evil, ignorant, treasonous clown are told we have something called TDS, but the real TDS seems to me to be an affliction of people who pretzel bend to rationalize his criminality. So, without further adieu... 1) Why did trump call his goobers to come to DC on 6 January, Tweeting "It'll be WILD!"? The certification of the election is pro forma; the States already did the accounting. What is "the right thing" that trump expected VP Pence to do, since the actual "right thing", according to the law and Constitution, is merely to rubber stamp what the 50 States already certified? 2) Why did trump tell his gathered goobers to march to the Capitol? What did he mean by "You have to fight like hell if you want your country back"? What sort of fighting was required when inside the Capitol it was merely that pro forma certification of the election? 3) Why did trump demand GA SecState Raffensperger "just find me...11,780 votes", when Raffensperger told trump there was no evidence of fraud nor unaccounted for votes? The answer here is rather obvious, but I would be interested in hearing the excuse. 4) Why did trump sign on to the fake elector scheme, when actual electors had already been selected by the legitimate voting process? When trump's appointed tech czar told trump "This was the most secure and fair election in US history", why did trump fire him? 5) Why did trump steal highly classified documents (with TS, SCI, SAP, Codeword, HCS and RD classifications) and bring the docs to his country club? What does a wedding planner need with that material? (Note: As a former member of the clandestine services, I carried a TS/SCI clearance and had classification authority. I know the system quite well as well as the declassification process. Neither trump nor any POTUS can "declassify with his mind"; there is a paper trail signed off by relevant agency chiefs and then finally signed off by the White House Counsel. That was not done. Oh...and even POTUSs do not have a security clearance; their election allows them the privilege of seeing classified material while POTUS. Once their term is done, they have zero clearance, and mere possession of classified documents is a crime, especially if it is willful. Biden and Pence's possession of much lower classified material was not willful, and both men cooperated fully with the FBI to gather and remove everything. trump, OTOH, lied and obstructed. As for the docs, HCS is Human Clandestine Sources and rarely, if ever does any POTUS see that, as it reveals identities of clandestine assets. trump's theft of HCS docs puts both individual assets and their families, as well as national security, at risk. It also discourages potential future assets from cooperating, as they see a reckless and cavalier POTUS could cause their identities to be revealed. Finally, documents classified RD, or Restricted Data, can ONLY be declassified by the Dept of Energy, as such material relates to nuclear matters and secrets. The only possible explanation for trump to steal and keep such documents is he planned to monetize them. Certainly putin and Xi would pay well to learn the identities of any penetrations of their government or military. Bonus question: If some 140+ Republican members of the House decided not to sign off on the certification of Biden's landslide victory, why were they all so quick to accept their own victories in the same election on the same ballots? So...what are the excuses?

Sadly, you are wasting your time quoting facts the trumpies as they have been brainwashed by the conman in chief. Who would think that "normal" people could be so gullible.....but there they are, and posting here!! God help America!

LOL....gotcha!!!!

Who is she?????

For an icecream salesman he's relly making the US economy go "gangbusters"..........an oldie but a goodie.

For your perusal, and other similar sites to this place BBC neutral or very slightly left of centre. Please note at the bottom of this chart......."Allsides media bias ratings are based on multi-partisan scientific analysis".

Nor is he smart!

A while back now, I do remember making it from scratch using a recipe online, and it turned out fine, using pork and the usual ingredients, including some chili because I like chili infused food. So a couple of weeks ago I was meandering around Big C and decided to buy one of the packets of pad kraphao mix and all the ingredients and have it for dinner that evening. As I said I like spicy food but the spice level in this packet of ingredients, although I only used half of it, was overpowering (chili -wise) so I decided against buying any more like that and if I want it I'll make it from scratch.

Don't have to watch news channels to know that he is a compulsive liar, that is a fact and has been evident for most of his life unfortunately. And I don't really care about other politicians, because they are not in the running to be the president of the USA, which may come about if this clown gains traction..... and my post was about trump, not Biden or other politicians. I don't watch any other news channels than BBC, which is neither left nor right biased, but I do read Internet articles and it's pretty clear that the man is a moron, and a dumb one at that. As for your reference regarding, "while the anti Trump crowd and left can't tell you what a woman is..and that men can get pregnant....hummm...", Well that seems to be the way the world is going at the moment, not that I'm in favour of it, in fact I'm not, but no need to get your knickers in a twist over that! You and Yellowtail seem to have a fixation on "the left/the right, yet none of this bothers me, what does is the prospect of having a complete, dumb, lying moron in charge of one of the most powerful countries in the world, when he has already presided over more than a dozen bankruptcies........good track record eh?.

Angry much!!!! 555 Trump deserves what he gets as he is an absolute plonker and a lying one at that, and unfortunately all that I have posted is true, so live with it.

Well I hate liars and Trump is a compulsive liar and despite what other MAGA/trump followers might say, his lies are extremely well documented and of course before his supporters jump in, he did take documents from the White House, which were found in Ma Largo, yet he said he hadn't got them, and when he was proven to be a liar, because they were found there, he said that he had thought about them and therefore was able to "declassify them" so he was able to take them – – absolute nonsense. With his ies he is able to grow a following of the gullible, or as he put it (his favourite people) the less well-educated and he deceives them with his lies which is even more despicable. He makes promises that he can't keep, simply because he is not smart enough and that's not good for an American president or for America. He pays hookers for sex and then denies it, it then arranges to get them paid off so they keep quiet. All the while, cheating on his wife while she was pregnant. He panders to the evangelicals and at the same time breaks just about every commandment in the Bible. Many of his businesses/companies have been liquidated or gone bankrupt and in this scenario many American working people have been deprived of wages/money, yet he has no problem with doing this, because he has done it many times. He has been found guillty of "misappropiating" (stealing) funds from a Charity to fund his campaigns and was fined $2 million and quote, "Donald Trump is in charge of enforcing the nation's laws, but he doesn't follow them. What a delicious twist of constitutional irony! He has overvalued the properties that he has in order to deceive banks and lending organisations to fund him, and hopefully these lies of his will be coming home to roost in the very near future. And the following may be of interest to you: – "It has long been a truism that politicians lie," wrote Carole McGranahan for the American Ethnologist journal in 2017. However, "Donald Trump is different" from other politicians, stated McGranahan, citing that Trump is the most "accomplished and effective liar" thus far to have ever participated in American politics. McGranahan felt that "the frequency, degree, and impact of lying in politics are now unprecedented" as a result of Trump.[ During and after his term as President of the United States, Donald Trump made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. The Washington Post's fact-checkers documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his presidential term, an average of about 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of 6.1 per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described the scale of Trump's mendacity as "unprecedented" in American politics,[13] and the consistency of falsehoods a distinctive part of his business and political identities.[14] Scholarly analysis of Trump's tweets found "significant evidence" of an intent to deceive.[15] But of course the Trump followers will not believe anything untoward about their glorious orange leader, and it's unsurprising that Trump likes the "poorly educated" because they will gladly go down the rabbit hole and believe his lies and the MAGA conspiracy theories, because they are poorly educated and gullible. As has been said many, many times on this forum, it is pointless trying to state facts and truths to Trump followers, because they believe the lies that have been fed them through their association with this truly despicable man. Please don't insult my intelligence by trying to dispute the above because it is extremely well documented. In fact I am putting you on ignore, because I can handle and welcome "differences of opinion" but not Maga/trump supporters who persistently lie and refuse to see the truth because that is ignorant and stupid and a waste of my time.

Nice retort/response Yellowtail........Touche! And for the record, it's been some 17 years since I last voted, and when I did I voted for the New Zealand National party, which is opposite to what one would normally call the Labour Party/left, and the politics in NZ are far removed from those in the USA, so very difficult to pin one down to an actual ideology. As I have said before, I absolutely hate Trump with a vengeance because of what he is and what he has done, and IMO he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near anything/any position with regards to the governing of the country.