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THe ;point is that human error is a constant and accidents will happen - we can't all be a smugly careful as you. The etans are primitive agricultural vehicles and w=once involved in an accident there is no protection at all for those riding on the machine. Mix this with high speed b=-vehicles on roads whose design encourages high speed and you have a recipe for disaster.

Lot of lynch mob mentality on this thread

When I lived n Samui, this was my favourite restaurant. I can't begin to describe how good it was. It was 4169 just before Greenacre School. FX6J+7P7, Tambon Na Mueang, Ko Samui District, Surat Thani 84140, Thailand However since Covid it has closed down. I think they had plans to move or open another place before Covid. What I'd like to know is if the owners have in fact set up somewhere else on the island. So any information to their whereabouts would be most helpful

THe statistics for Thailand don't read well - but unfortunately it is the compilation analysis of those stats that is preventing any progress on road safety in Thailand. The stats you refer to are deaths per 100k, but there are many equally important stats regarding other aspects - e.g. per number of vehicles, miled drive, number of collisions, and most important te number of injuries categorized as minor, serious and fatal as is internationally recognised.

No one has permission to live in a wildlife preserve. THe problem is at least in part human encroachment. elephants need food - if the park isn't managed properly, elephants run out of food and go looking for more. Drought and fires don't help but management should ensure that the elephants have enough food near where they normally live then they won't feel the need to enter human habitation. Electric fences don't seem to work very well - apparently elephants don't like bees and people have made "bee fences" that are effective at keeepiganimals out.

At least I posted 2 links to real scientific studies that should make anyone think again. you're a joke - "real scientific studies - you really don't understand do you?

So the implication is you consider yours are.

much more common than people realise. Even "successful" ops fall short of proper medical standards

You have no idea

QED a fool who hides ignorance behind a veil of cynicism.

Someone who thinks one video makes the accumulated science of climate change fall down is a complete fool.

RElly? How? Humans can but politicians on their own seem y=to be unable to stop the process.

If you don't understand MMCC then you are a fool

Yes the only reason it existed was because of public ignorance- people flocked to the place unaware of the animal abuse. But they are also unaware that ANY captive tiger place is exploitative and abusive - they can't make money if the public don't cme. THe place was closed by the DNP -after 10 years of bad publicity from animal campaigners embarrassed the authorities into action. the fact is that the laws in Thailand are useless to prevent these sort of places operating so there were very few ways to close it down. THe abbott had friends in high places and several attempts to close it fell foul of the courts. the closing of the place was also a complete mess.

Except this is an inaccurate view. Encroachment and poaching are 2 of the most serious problems facing tigers and wildlife in Thailand However the simplistic view of "more Humans" is misleading - in reality there is potentially space for a population of 2000 tigers in Thailand (as opposed to the current 200) this is not simply down to people numbers, it is down to management of the available wildlife space - something that successive Thai governments have failed to address. There is a general malaise in Thailand that affects both government and public understanding of all issues to do with wildlife animals welffare and conservation.

You are barking up the wrong tree - the drugging of tigers is a side issue - it was never proven. However on that particular issue, it has been common practice for decades for owners of animals in the public gaze to be drugged to make them easier to handle. one could argue "so what" they shouldn't have been there in the first place. THere were far more important issues involved in the tiger temple than whether they were drugged or not - the establishment shouldn't have been there under any circumstances. It was eventually shut down. Those involved now run tiger attractions in places like Pattaya. THe holding of tigers in captivity and their mistreatment is just the tip of the iceberg of animal welfare and conservation in Thailand - there are very few laws concerning animal welfare and those are sparsely enforced. Tigers are apex predators and their existence in the wild is an indication of how eco-systems are functioning - keeping in captivity does nothing for this, in fact it actually deters from real solutions to Thailand's ecological problems

Shows how poorly informed much of the general public are about the issues around all aspects of tiger conservation. Conservationists don't just have to struggle with front line issues but also have to contend with public ignorance on a gigantic scale...which hinders their work even further.

I'm referring to ALL training received at Universities - and the corruption involved As for you sealioning that kind of shows the paucity of your approach to this issue. "

It seemed to me over the past 20 years teaching in universities that it was quite common for people to be employed by a university as a lecturer on the basis they were writing a PhD. This was usually just a compilation of plagiarised material and Google. I've proof read - or tried to - a few theses and most seemed to fall way short of what I'd consider to be PhD material. The problem is so ingrained in Thai academic life it leaves me wondering how it could ever be resolved. As a foot note, I think it's worth mentioning that it isn't just those producing the PhDs that are at fault, it is those who are accepting or accrediting them. The damage may not be apparent initially, but when you consider that these oeople may become medical practitioners , scientists or architects etc etc there is a potential danger to human life through this apparent lack of any real meticulous academic integrity.

THailand has 338 officers per 100 k and the USA has 242. Both police forces are paramilitary and neither has much interest in road safety, but Thailand simply doesn't have a trained up and equiped highway patrol. However, enforcement is only one factor in bringing about safer roads in Thailand. In fact the police aren't even all of that - to enforce you need coursts and legal system that works ans=d roads that are properly demarcated and defined. Then there are all the other equally important factors in road safety.

there is no argument for climate denial - whether they vote or not is a different matter - you are entitled to vote that the world is flat - but it isn't. THere may be a discussion of how to change the mind of a denier but that too is impossible - like Brexiteers, they aren't interested in evidence or reasoning. As such there is no [point in discussing that. THey are beyond any form of =discussion. The title of the topic is "Climate records tumble, leaving Earth in uncharted territory - scientists" - nothing to do with is there or isn't there climate change - deniers need tp be removed from the thread as they are off topic.

nobody is that uninformed - we all have known that since the 1980s

so why bother posting it.... it's a bit like discussing transport and posting a picture of a bus

you do realise what a huge faux-pas it is to say that? THe problem with this thread is like that comment it is unbelievably low-brow.