Chomper Higgot

You might recall Jonny, that during the many BREXIT discussions we both enjoyed I frequently made the observation that the whole point of BREXIT was to prevent the Tory Party splitting. Well here we are. But don’t get your hopes up if the Tories folding, they’ll stick around. And it’s Reform, not the Tories splitting the right wing vote.

Actually the evidence I produced was from an IFS report published in July 2023 at the time of a Tory Government. The IFS is regarded as independent, though in part Government funded and with a Neo-Liberal bias. ‘Vitriolic’ you say.

A lot of ‘could’ and mights’ in that. Yes the IFS is partly defunded by Government, though considered independent it is also accused of having a ‘neo-liberal’ bias. The report I linked and you responded to was published in July 2023, the then Government was Tory. Addressing your points: 1. Yes those are a number of the different offerings’ of private schools, they do relate to funding and hence the necessity for the increase of £2.3Billion into state schools - More is needed but it’s a start. 2. The report recognizes the established economic principle of ‘an inflexible demand curve’. The critique missing is of the ‘mass exodous’ the doom scenarios play on. I don’t see the assumption of ‘demographic concentration’. 3. The report addressed these issues. 4. It might, but your argument is, in summary, the report might be wrong. 5. There is no new tax collecting administration, VAT tax collecting is well established and operates on billions of transactions annually. Schools might want to attempt avoiding paying VAT, it’s not a good idea, very easily traced and prosecuted. Your repeat of the anti Labour political polemic was also addressed earlier. 6. There’s uncertainty in everything, except it would seem the predicted doom. Thank you for taking time to address the report and my earlier post.

This is a discussion on schools Jonny, it’s not the junior school playground.

An interesting analysis, not the doom we are being told to expect: https://ifs.org.uk/publications/tax-private-school-fees-and-state-school-spending

“Again, short sighted, those parents with higher standard of education very likely received it in a Private School or Grammar school system, or from a school in a very good area.” Precisely my point, thank you. The £2.3Billion is an already announced education budget increase, I did provide a link. The Government have not sold out any of your off topic needy.

The claim that private schools ultimately benefit state schools needs something to back it up.

The arrival in state schools of children from families motivated to get their children the best education will undoubtedly provide a driving force for improvement of all children in the schools they bless with their presence. It’s why schools in catchment areas that include high numbers of parents with higher education do so well, to the extent of impacting house prices within their catchment area. And then’s the added bonus of all those ‘excellent teachers’ leaving the private sector and seeking jobs in the state schools that are in receipt of their share of the £2.3 Billion increase in spending on schools. https://www.henrywiltshire.co.uk/news/buying/schools-affect-house-prices-london-property-market/#:~:text=London properties near good schools sell quickly&text=Research using data from Zoopla,elsewhere in the same postcode. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/674f2609d7e2693e0e47d02a/NFF_Policy_document.pdf

State schools are paid for out of taxes. Private schools claim to be charities.

It’s not Trump’s Ukraine.

At last you’ve posted something I agree with. Starmer said it a few weeks back, the Tories were grandstanding ‘stop the boats’ while operating open border policies. In the immediate aftermath of the BREXIT vote the Tories went cap I hand to India and The Philippines looking for cheap immigrant workers - cheaper than the EU workers and British workers they were to replace. And the people who voted for that think Farage is the answer.

“That was in the 60s. Since then woke has won and US schools IMO produce mediocre results. No kids want to be a mathematician now, aspiring to be in "media".” Ramaswamy points the finger at something that is the antithesis of ‘woke’. Refer OP.

Please let me know in a thread I which the topic is the hostages.

Like I said, nobody is forcing ing you to believe anyone. The death of any baby is a tragedy. Try spending less time on whataboutary and use the time she to reintroduce yourself to a little humanity.

Nothing to see here: https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-says-15bn-qatar-uae-came-irrespective-trump-win-2004895

You don’t need numbers. You can discus the actual case that is the subject of this thread.

1. Nobody is forcing you to believe anyone. 2. Your callous disregard for these reported deaths is all your own. 3. The topic is not Bono or children dying in Africa.

The Tory Party hasn’t been ‘moderate center right’ for over a decade.

Congratulations, you hat the thread’s Godwin Gong.

There’s some details behind these data. Firstly, favorability is a fickle thing, Farage enjoys 28% favorability on the basis of talking a lot, he’s not in a position to deliver anything. Likewise, Badenoch has no means to do anything other than criticize, but she has a choice to make, attack Labour or attack Reform. Right now she’s vacillating between the two. Starmer and Reaves on the other-hand are in power and are enacting the policies to deliver on manifesto promises. They are wisely enacting the unpopular fiscal changes and the policies that will deliver improvements for voters early. Spending on health care, education, public services will start to deliver the improvements the voting public demand. Starmer and Reaves are the only people in that list that can change public perception by delivering on promises. Badenoch and Farage attacking each other (while she’s still head of the Tory Party) will only help the shift in public perception towards the reality of who’s delivering and who’s bickering.

Pump up the racism and xenophobia genie to gain support and win an election and then face the difficult problem of putting the genie back in the box. "A culture that celebrates the prom queen over the math olympiad champ, or the jock over the valedictorian... will not produce the best engineers," Ramaswamy is on this point entirely correct. Somebody tell Cernovich the bit immigrants played in the whole space program. Getting it off the ground even.

He isn’t stopping anything. Starmer is in office and is delivering on Labour’s manifesto promises, hardly any definition of failure.

They aren’t really members, they are subscribers. They get to pay, but have no say in the selection of candidates, the leader or ‘party’ policies. But it’s wound Badenoch up and looks like it will continue to split the rightwing vote.

This was a predicted outcome of BREXIT, EU national immigrants being replaced by immigrants from Asia and Africa. You’ll find it filed under ‘Project Fear’.

Nor did I comment on any book.