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Every 5 minutes there's someone else crying about foreign tourism. I wonder why they have not seen that the Thais will pick up the slack with domestic tourism and their big spending @sandyf.
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1 hour ago, Cali farong said:
Why would it make a difference what country you come fro if you test negative and you quarantine??
Because the whole thing is risk based. The tests are statistically unreliable. The 14 days quarantine period is not fool proof as Some people are documented to be asymptomatic for a month or longer.
So another variable they use is how bad they think the traveler country is.
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Haven't heard from the expats who claim "tourism in only less than 10% of Thai GDP" in quite some time. Wonder where they have gone..
I suspect the Thais have for the first time maybe in their history been forced to understand and accept how reliant they are on dirty nasty foreigners. It's lovely.
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18 minutes ago, leicesterguyuk said:
Oh, 1 person? I won't panic just yet.
4 months on, hardly long term.
And who's to know that covid caused her problems?
Let's go with the other 99.9% of people who have had the problem (and not died) and have recovered just fine.
What do you think is a reasonable likelihood that tens of thousands of the brightest scientific minds across the world have it all wrong and you have it right?
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On 8/25/2020 at 7:50 PM, sandyf said:
No one has ever said that one will replace the other. The ratio is about 40% domestic to around 60% international and it is about time you and your like accepted the reality of the situation.
Only the self deluded would think that constant infantile whinging is going to change anything.
Seems like Thais are out of money or just being sensible. Like I said, people are not in holiday mood. People are deeply worried about the future and if they will be able to work and earn. See?
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To all those who think covid is not serious, there is long term permanent damage done even when a person is asymptomatic. This is a serious disease. The effects of this will be felt for decades. New cancers, early organ failures, etc.
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7 hours ago, DrTuner said:
It's everywhere in Europe, but hidden from public eye. However Thai women do win Greece 100-0 in the looks department.
Unless one prefers very furry women.. ????
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2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:
Pipat needs to be replaced within the next 24 hours. If the toxic army cared one iota about the Thai people, they would be searching for a competent and creative mind to lead the tourism ministry, rather than this mental midget.
ALL people from ALL nations should be allowed to come, as long as they are willing to subject themselves to quarantine. Period. No other requirements or restrictions. No heinous, punitive, or humiliating requests for permission from the overseas consulates. Who are we? Kids begging for play time? Or tourists willing to spend a bundle to help save Thailand's economy?
This is the time for the arrogant ministers and members of this toxic administration to be humble. Is this possible? Is this not a reality check and a wake up call? Are these guys capable of learning and adapting?
I agree with you. However, this is a challenge I don't think they can solve through their own effort.
Even with perfect policy, tourists are not likely coming in the short to mid term for all the other reasons mentioned on this and other threads.
What the Thais should probably be doing are things like
1. Planning new industries to move away from such a heavy reliance on unsustainable foreign tourism
2. Training the Thai population for the new industries
3. Taking strategic stock of their tourism industry and doing things like
a) simplifying policy
b) improving core infrastructure like the airports and roads and beaches
But, all these things are difficult and Thais don't like difficult things. Difficult things are not 'sanuk'. Not fun.
They will be crawl along as they have been for decades, making negligible progress. That's the national character.
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48 minutes ago, brucec64 said:
There are a couple of things to consider. There is an increase in domestic tourist income because Thais are not spending money on overseas trips, and, more importantly, the domestic tourism distributes income to the hardest hit tourism areas. It may not be enough to generate profits for all tourist businesses, but may help some of the stronger businesses survive until international tourism starts up again, and provide some jobs to Thais in the tourist industry.
Agree that there are many things to consider.
I would bet the downward pressure of job losses, depressed incomes for those still working and hard hit exports to be dull the relatively small Thai domestic tourism spend for now.
At any rate, without the actual data, we are all just speculating. The reveal will be whether the government is still crying and begging daily for foreign tourism solutions as they have been for the last 6 months.
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56 minutes ago, sandyf said:Yesterday morning Thai domestic check in at swampy was absolutely mobbed, I only saw a couple of empty seats on our flight to Krabi.
In the afternoon I was sat having a beer opposite the Swordfish monument on Ao Nang front and in the space of half an hour 2 large tour coaches pulled up and were obviously full with the numbers running around taking pics.
In the evening another large coach discharged it's contents into our reception, couldn't move until they all checked in. Just over 750,000 nights have been booked under the government domestic tourist scheme so far.
Of course you are free to believe what you want, but you really need to get out a bit more.
Hi. Sorry, this is very common but poor thinking. Extrapolating based on an exceptionally narrow anecdote is not a robust thought process.
Just thinking it through logically, how many places were you NOT during your trip? How many places could you NOT see?
I think the point many of us make about Thai domestic tourists is that it is highly unlikely they will ever replace the foreign tourist spend. After all, Thailand has based a huge chunk (up to 30% and perhaps more if gray and black market activities are included) of their GDP on foreign tourism. If you can show me a business case for replacing those economics with Thai domestic tourists, I'll send to the government, and they may make you Thai Prime Minister.
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1 hour ago, sandyf said:
They came and went before the lockdown, fairly obvious when they are considering Jan-July.
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On 8/23/2020 at 10:02 AM, ThailandRyan said:
Ouch, you went there and on a Sunday morning too.....well well well. The sting of that comment will truly get a quick response for ......bye bye
I tend to support my fellow Farangs but there is nothing more disgusting than those self-hating Westerners are fooled by smiling Asians that mostly are at best indifferent yo them and at worst (and often) despise them/us.
No doubt he's with a bar girl up in Nakhon Noplace. She's convinced him in her pidgin English that everything in Thailand is wonderful and his country no so good.
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Ultimately, all this misses the even more obvious problems
1. Thailand's biggest target - the Chinese - are not coming anytime soon. The Chinese government is keeping most of their people home to spend in China to prop up their dying economy.
2. Many people have lost investments, many have lost jobs. They will not be financially fit to blow money on an expensive vacation.
3. Most people will be afraid to fly especially with covid still a threat.
The Thais can do whatever they want. No big numbers of tourists are coming this year. Maybe not even next year.
Chokdee krap
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4 hours ago, Chelseafan said:
Precisely.
Until the two week qurantine is removed from the equation there is no way I am going back and that's coming from someone who's wife and family are in Thailand.
What sane person books a 2 week vacation in Thailand when they have to stay in a hotel under quarantine.
Why the hell don't these fools get it ?
Personally I don't think they have any intention of relaxing the borders, it's just hyperbole for the masses.
Thai logic not same same you farang logic na ????
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More pleas maybe from the typical poorly educated Farangs that often end up in Thailand, often married to whores, skint and in poor physical and mental health.
To believe the Thai government is telling them the truth or even capable of doing so is ridiculous.
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Less corrupt money to go around now with no tourists. We'll be seeing more of these instances where they show who they really are.
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The usual expats will be here soon to tell us all that Thailand has the world's strongest economy and massive reserves and is still rich.
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11 hours ago, Destiny1990 said:
No its the curriculum that is focusing for students on memorizing instead of about understanding matters.
In nearly all Asian countries there is a heavy focus on rote memorization. But somehow countries like China and Japan and Korea and Singapore and Taiwan routinely educate some of the smartest people on the planet.
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50 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:Follow the Singapore curriculum just add 3 hours a week of thailanguage..!
Why in Singapore the kids are super smart while in thailand lots of students do not know the earth is round?
Culture. The Thais generally seem to believe that they can keep the easy going, fun 'sanook' attitude they approach most of life with and still succeed in serious endeavours. The rest of the world understands that serious pursuits require being serious. We all want to act like free adolescents, but most of us acknowledge that life's pursuits require that we grow up and get serious.
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If they were smart, they would order the foreign tourists to come back. When luring won't work, just order them.
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7 hours ago, josephbloggs said:
Oh great, here comes Fex Bluse again to lighten things up with his random nasty and bitter wishes upon an entire nation of people for no good reason!!
What a horrible outlook you have, truly awful. I wonder what made you like this.
You hope the economy caves in. You hope Thailand hurts. You hope Thai Airways goes under and everyone loses their jobs. Never come across anyone as bitter and nasty in my life. How could any one wish to celebrate such catastrophes that effect good common people? "Thailand will hurt" with a thumbs up.
I hope one day you can get better, maybe find a friend or a companion, maybe try being nice to someone and see what happens.No idea what you're on about. I'm quite happy. What makes you think I'm unhappy?
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7 hours ago, webfact said:
Thailand’s success in containing the coronavirus may not help its economy much
Better headline might read
"Thailand's planned 'don't ask, don't tell' minimal testing strategy failed to account for anything other than 'luring' and manufactured confidence"
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49 minutes ago, lovesthespicy said:I think we may see Japan/China/Korea/HK back in before the end of the year. While the ROW isnt back for quite awhile.
Chinese won't likely be going anywhere soon. At least not in significant numbers. Even if they had the disposable cash, which they will not, the government will encourage most of them to spend any money in country. Hallelujah
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Opening up Thailand to tourists a "potential catastrophe", wait six months urges Chula doctor
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The Thais and many Thai loving expats will have us believe foreign tourism is less than 10% of Thai GDP.
I wonder why the Thais aren't talking about anything other than foreign tourism. It is almost like the whole of Thai economy is tourism with a little bit of industry. Strange