Bday Prang

I did not compare people to snakes, I used the often unjustified fear of snakes as an analogy to explain about the reasons for islamophobia When people say for example "he is like a fish out of water" they are not equating anybody to being a fish they are using the analogy of a fish out of water to help describe somebody who is uncomfortable in their environment or when they say " the black sheep of the family " it is not a racist reference to "people of colour" merely a way of saying that somebody differs somewhat from the rest of their siblings , not necessarily in colour either. Do I like muslims? not particularly, Am I wary of them ? yes , does that make me a bigot? maybe it does ! I make no secret of this I have made many posts and comments. that i know full well people like you will respond with accusations of bigot etc But to target a relatively innocuous post using the analogy of Ophidiophobia, to explain the existence of islamophobia, as an example of bigotry, has to be evidence of desperation on your part. Well either that or you just don't understand "analogy" Where did you say you came from? oh yes you notably avoided answering that question (again)

For some , like yourself , there just isn't enough bigotry or racism , hence the need to imagine it everywhere. That's how we end up with people asking ridiculous questions like " is covid a racist virus" or "is the british countryside racist" or we have woke organisations like Disney altering the "ethnicity" of cartoon characters like snow white. etc etc Isn't it about time , in the ever present and vital interests of "diversity" , that we remade a few classic war films perhaps depicting Adolph Hitler as a muslim or a black man ? Or maybe a docudrama about the moors murders where Myra Hindley and Ian Brady could be depicted as a couple of murdering Asian pedophiles. ? How would you feel about that ? Some have been applauded for suggesting that only gay actors should be cast in gay parts as only they can fully understand the angst , fine by me by the way , as long as gay actors are not allowed to fill roles depicting straight characters. OOPs there goes my bigotry again as we know equality only works one way doesn't it

looking at the response to your "pure logic" it appears to have evaded everybody so far except one of your "fanboys"

Indeed it is, you cant imagine the hurt and pain I experience every time I am called a bigot

Are you currently humming your little tune with your fingers in your ears, If you are I bet its not the national anthem

I feel no need to be welcomed by Reform or anybody else, Once the islamisation of the UK is complete do you think the muslims will welcome you or even spare you . They will not, they consider those like you to be nothing more than useful idiots, Your head will be on the chopping block with everybody elses, You should reflect on that

I genuinely expected a more considered and intelligent response , looks like i was mistaken. But coming from you I will take it as a compliment

You can now expect to be accused of comparing muslims to sharks, you will probably be called a bigot or an islamophobe I suffered a similar response earlier I feel so hurt lol

At least we can't accuse you of hypocrisy, You made a comment earlier about "go to responses" and now you have presented us with a perfect example, Words like Bigot , Racist , or any ending with "phobe" Are not used by anybody with the intention of rational debate or discussion, they are used exclusively to discredit and vilify anybody with an opposing view , with the sole intention of immediately ending any meaningful exchange of views. They are in effect "stopping words" I always imagine those uttering these type of words immediately put their fingers in their ears and start humming a little tune to themselves. normally the actions of a petulant child

I was not equating Muslims with snakes , I would not dream of being so insulting, to snakes. I was simply attempting to explain something using what is known as an "analogy" which of course you know full well, but its no surprise that you would actually feign ignorance in order to dismiss such a valid point as "bigotry" which is after all one of your favorite words Its like arguing with an opinionated teenager

I would have expected you of all people to be able to recognise a blatant troll when one crawls out from under a rock. He pops up in every single thread regarding muslim immigration ( but only where it involves the UK) and makes the same inflammatory remarks, He is not British or Muslim for that matter and as such has no skin in the game What other reason would there possibly be for his remarks ? If I was a mod His feet would not touch the floor, Are you actually British ?

But,, in my humble opinion, it would hardly be a sensible decision for a person with little or no knowledge of mushrooms to walk around the forest picking and eating any mushrooms they find just because only a small number are dangerous For those lacking the appropriate skills it is considered much more sensible to buy mushrooms from a recognised retail outlet,where the mushrooms gathered, at least in theory, will have been selected by somebody who has the ability to distinguish between the ones that are safe and the ones that will kill The majority of people who, for reasons known only to themselves ,constantly assert that the vast majority of Muslims are harmless and peace loving are not themselves Muslims and neither do they speak Arabic consequently they are totally unable to have read and understood the Quran nor the nuances of the messages it contains . Their rhetoric is based purely on their own sense of wokeness

indeed there is always a way and these sort of people will always find it

maybe I have misunderstood your definition of working class, however I'm sure you know fullwell what I meant

Why on earth would they? An example, many years ago on a construction site I was working on we had endless issues with a bolshy militant member of the labour force, he was the union rep too or shop steward as we used to call them in those days. He would complain about everything from the timing of tea breaks , working hours, bonuses , disciplinary matters, etc etc on several occasions he almost shut the site down, attempting to persuade the rest of the work force to strike over very trivial matters. The site manager came up with a rather innovative solution, he promoted him to forman, we thought this was a crazy idea, but how wrong we were, the guy changed literally overnight, becoming a hard task master who would not tolerate any of the nonsense he used to be notorious for. People forget their "principals" very quickly when it suits them, in my experience

Labour or Tory they are all the same , just different cheeks of the same $hitty Ar$e

I suppose in a way we have to hand it to them , they have it all sewn up very nicely,

you are absolutely correct. However I i do think that some newcomers may actually start off with the best of intentions, But will be short lived, they are quickly taken to one side by one of the others and told not to "rock the boat" if they wish to remain part of the "family" To my knowledge there have been very few if any whistle blowers in the house of commons from either side A complete overhaul is as you say long overdue but very unlikely from the people that are even allowed to decide for themselves how large their annual pay increases are The amount of sleaze involved was highlighted several years ago with the expenses scandal , who could forget the arrogance of those who simply refused to accept their obvious guilt. it should have been sorted then , but unsurprisingly little if anything changed.

there is rarely smoke without fire , lets not forget what sort of people we are talking about.

I am more cynical, I would say 100% why else would anybody give them anything. With respect to donations and gifts they should be treated in exactly the same way as the police. Declaring these bribes officially is nothing more than a charade, its as if once they admit to it , all is ok and above board. "yes we received £100,000 from "whoever" but no need to worry as we've told you about it, now move along nothing to see here

I hardly think we need yet another committee, the next thing we will need is a committee to monitor that committee and the gifts they receive and so on ad infinitum

well its certainly not surprising, They are after all exactly the same,

Most people harbour a fear of snakes whether they admit it or not, even though many snakes are totally harmless.. Whilst technically this fear is a phobia few would berate them for erring on the side of caution. Despite most poisonous snakes being relatively easily identified and the easy availability of reference books to aid in their identification many harmless snakes are killed every day . Whilst you may say many muslims may well be harmless ( until they get "the text message" of course) the dangerous ones are not so easily identified and there are no reference books for us to refer to which will assist in identifying them . also snakes openly advertise their potential danger by way of their appearance they do not act covertly Unlike muslims ,what you see is what you get For that reason the only safe option with muslims is to err on the side of caution at all times, No need to be outspoken or violent about this just keep a healthy distance from them, restricting their immigration to non muslim countries is obviously a good start. Everybody knows it makes sense. but some are so blighted by wokeness that, contrary to logic and basic human instinct ( the very essence of wokeness) they just can't bring themselves to accept it Hence we end up with "gays for Gaza" and other such astonishing stupidity Personally I would rather be called a bigot by people like you than end up blown to pieces or decapitated by a member of this death cult

Georgina you are not even English you should keep your nose out of this, it has nothing to do with you

You tink too mutt