James105

That is true, but this was after he appeared to be complying with the police request to move back, and as he had his back turned the dog handler set his dog on him. Would that have happened if the police did not use such unreasonable force? I expect they were told to plead guilty by their lawyer as it would lead to a less severe punishment, so I wouldn't read too much into their plea.

I actually missed your response and yes you did. I'm not convinced that members of the public should be held to a higher standard than the media though as it is very common for the media to release incorrect headlines that are later corrected with an apology as facts become known and do not face arrest for this. It seems to me after just 4 weeks of a Labour government the UK is heading down a very dark path. There was an Englishman who wrote a very famous book that covered a lot of this kind of thing.

I see. Thank you for the link, but since I have eyes and ears it does tend to raise a few questions, and it seems the "far right" narrative crumbles under the most basic scrutiny. These are 2 gay fellas on their way back from Bingo. What's the thinking now on the left, that the 100 planned riots were scuppered as the bingo halls had a special promotion that evening which meant no-one was available? Do MI5 need to start planting secret agents into bingo halls? So anyway, another question, if I may lean on your such obvious legal expertise for a moment. These guys got over 2 years imprisonment for shouting at police officers. How many years imprisonment (based on this bar being set) should the Labour councillor get for "encouraging murder"?

Like this one?

This man was jailed for 26 months for "shouting and gesticulating" at the police. No mention of any racial slurs, property damage or violence. So, let's see what happens to the Labour councillor who was calling for white people to have their throats slit. Based on what this man got for merely shouting, how many years do you think the Labour councillor should get?

What grievance, just (as per usual) laying out the facts. His offence is inciting racial hatred which carries up to 7 years imprisonment. Lets see if he faces the "full force of the law" as promised by Keir Starmer.

Suspended from his job is not "facing the full force of the law" is it now? White people do not get the "suspended from job on full pay option" do they? If there is no 2 tier policing he will be remanded in custody awaiting his turn in front of the judge, and then he will go to jail for a period of time. If there is 2 tier policing then that will not happen. This example should put the "2 tier" policing argument to bed one way or the other I should think.

He has just been suspended. Why is he not facing the "full force of the law"? The Prime Minister told the UK there is no 2 tier policing. He should be jailed for this kind of incitement shouldn't he? A mere suspension from their job is not what the white faced rioters are facing, they are going to jail.

What is your opinion of this online lie that incited muslim thugs to go on the rampage (screenshot included as I am surprised he hasn't deleted it). He works for an organisation called Hope not hate. This misinformation led to someone being hospitalised by the muslim thugs he incited.

Well done. They have found a video from 10 years ago. Here is one more recently (yesterday in fact) of a Labour councillor inciting violence by calling for white people to have their throats slit. Thankfully I have been reliably informed by the Prime Minister that we do not have 2 tier policing in the UK so it shouldn't be long before he is remanded in custody and facing a judge before being given an extremely harsh sentence for the incitement of violence.

The real losers here are the 3 little girls who were killed by a second generation immigrant, and the other victims of that massacre who are still in hospital recovering from their wounds, and the victims of preventable horrors that are yet to come. The other losers (some of whom do not realise this yet) are literally everyone else, except the elites of course who are playing their divisive little games at the expense of ordinary people. If you were an elite who is profiting from this misery I could understand your desire to gloat, but in all likelihood you are just another pawn or NPC being used for their profitable ends.

Did he do that though? I presume you have some kind of evidence to back this up rather than the usual guardian opinion pieces that imagine things he has said. I don't think he has done anything worse than Nick "Hope not hate" Lowles who incited violence by getting it wrong in the tweet below based on fake news reports. Would you advocate a 10 year sentence for him too (and the Labour MP who endorsed his message), or do you have different standards for leftists? Obviously the tweet has since been deleted and an apology has been made, but someone was attacked and hospitalised as a direct result of this misinformation.

Hmmm... every media outlet seems to be running the same image and same headline, whilst ignoring the violence perpetrated by these "mostly peaceful" protests. I have not seen such media unity since the government wanted to take peoples freedoms away at the beginning of covid in exchange for wads of advertising money for fear propaganda adverts. I think you are all being played.... again.

He might hate free speech that he doesn't agree with, but (and this is the important part) he doesn't stop that person from saying it unless it is actually against the law. Why does the left have such a problem with this I wonder?

I've no idea who he is, but since the BBC will not show this then people on X/Twitter will. It's no wonder Labour MPs want to shut that platform down so we can all be as oblivious as yourself to the realities. It's a bit weak to attack the messenger rather than the message (in this case a video of armed muslim thugs rampaging through Sheffield) isn't it?

Best of British.

Weird. It's almost as though there is no organised far right and the leftists turned up based on a fake tweet promoted by the media. I imagine the police were quite disappointed when they turned up that there was only groups of armed Islamist thugs who they are not allowed to arrest.

This is very true. Unfortunately it is also the last words spoken by Islamic terrorists when they stab someone, cut off their head or explode a bomb that kills innocents, so people are naturally quite wary when it is spoken out loud on the streets. Aren't there thousands of Mosques in the UK where people can tell their imaginary sky wizard/witch how great he or she is if that brings them comfort?

Thankfully they are freeing up space in prison so they can jail these "destroyers of property" and Greggs sausage roll stealers. This guy who killed a 14 year old will be back out on the streets early to make way after serving just 40% of his 2 years 8 month prison sentence. That'll make the streets safer. https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/gordon-gault-killer-lawson-natty-29682308

Islamist terrorists have on many occasions worn a Burqa as a disguise e.g https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-24800671

Putin nailed it.

You are doing the hoping. I'm just stating facts.

Do you know this with 100% certainty? If so how and can you post a link that shows what the alleged "murderer" has been doing in the years since his appearance for the "children in need" Doctor who on BBC when he was 10 years old? The simple fact is that no-one knows the motives yet, and until they do they will speculate, just as you are doing by claiming it has nothing to do with Islam even though you cannot be 100% sure that is the case.

Yes, it certainly appears that way. Maybe I was just being overly optimistic that they would just turn into Blair's Labour and start a few wars, (only) double legal and illegal immigration, raise a few taxes and destroy the economy before someone with some economic sense would take over next time whilst there was still something to take over from. There will be no honest or difficult conversations about why there is such dissatisfaction in the UK and why people are taking to the streets. They will just continue to point at pantomime villains like Farage and Robinson saying it is all their fault, whilst silencing anyone who speaks out. I remember reading Peter Hitchins virtually begging people to vote for Tories (even though he detests them at every level) to prevent Labour from getting into power as he recognised how dangerous Labour (Starmer specifically) are, but it was an impossible ask due to their epic failures whilst in government.

Quelle surprise. Labour MP outraged that people can see content that is not pre-approved by the government. We are just 4 weeks into this Labour government. 4 weeks. I knew they would be bad, but I didn't foresee just how dangerous they would be when they gained power.