Mr Meeseeks

Both continued to support Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge as the legitimate government of Cambodia even after the genocide was exposed by the Vietnamese.

16 hours ago, hotchilli said:

Absolving himself from responsibility in times of trouble but praises himself at every other opportynity.

Sounds like every Thai I have ever met.

15 minutes ago, Brollox said:

In your opinion. Personally I might book this hotel and go and have a pleasant weekend and we can exchnage stories of <deleted>ty customers.

Evidently the hotel got it wrong; the negative media coverage and the TripAdvisor warning are the deserved outcome. Perhaps ultimately closure and bankruptcy to follow? Time will tell. 

As you are in the same industry and have obviously learned absolutely nothing from the learned outcomes of this episode, perhaps you are not in a position to be owning or managing in the hospitality industry and should be thinking on a career change? Just a thought, and not meant to cause you offence.

12 minutes ago, Brollox said:

I think Tripadvisors success is on the wain actually, and I wouldn't be surpised if they no longer exist a few years from now. Having deep pockets is one thing. Knowing the difference between right and wrong entirely another. In this case the hotel was in the right, the complainent AND Tripadvisor where both in the wrong.

In your opinion and sounds like wishful thinking on your behalf.

However I contest that the hotel were in the wrong for initially pressing criminal charges on the American idiot that wrote the reviews. It could have been dealt with in another way. 

The American did not demonstrably cause any damage to the hotel's business. A few negative reviews and idiotic comments online would not have even registered. 

By taking the course of action to criminally prosecute, they have not only damaged their own business, but brought Thailand's criminal defamation laws and tourism industry into the spotlight, and perhaps even damaged the reputation of the Thai tourist industry as a result. 

Another case of Thai bullying that has backfired. 

England have their own ambassadors now? 

Are Scotland and Wales independent already? Must have missed that news. 

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

 

PTTEP outside of Thailand?  I know guys who work for PTTEP outside of Thailand (i.e. in Malaysia etc)

Does PTT inside Thailand employ any non-Thai’s ??

 

Why are Chevron pulling out o Thailand ? - Chevron's choice? or government ?

 

 

The guys I know work for PTTEP in Thailand. There are not many but then they have been attempting to nationalise the industry for a number of years. 

Chevron's plans are to pull out of Asia entirely I believe, so I would assume that has come at a board level and is not due to any specific nation's government. They are already in process of relinquishing their biggest assets in the Gulf of Thailand to PTTEP and they will probably be left with only a stake in a smaller field after those transfers are complete. The chopper base in NST is closing and all flights are being relocated back to SKL. 

2 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

No flight crew? never seen one

He was not flight crew.

Most of the Thai flight crews are ex-military pilots as far as I am aware.

Just now, richard_smith237 said:

 

Nope, yet other successful Airlines source the best from a global pool of potential employees. 

 

PTT have never employed foreigners, Chevron used to employ a healthy mix of Foreigners and Thai’s, sourcing quality from a global pool of potential employees. International experience, mentoring, shared development was key in ensuring the continued technical evolution - Chevron has now gone ‘almost’ exclusively Thai whereas their Western counterparts are almost exclusively multinational because thats where the best people are sourced (from everywhere).

 

The best hotels do source from an international pool - Thailand also has excellent hotel management schools. 

This is an area where the rest of industry could look to see the success of international integration. 

The hotels are still at least 51% Thai owned. In this case it doesn’t seem to impact the high end chains, however the lodges smaller hotels will obviously suffer.

 

 

I know several foreigners that work for PTTEP, which is a part of PTT, so that is not true.

Chevron are pulling out of Thailand, and they got rid of nearly all their foreign staff in 2013 due to the price of oil sparking a major downturn in the industry.

11 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Any foreigners working in Thai Airways?

I know of one that used to work for them. He is unemployed at the moment. 

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

It would be good to see the opportunities for skilled labor (with proven qualifications) for the building and electrics trade. 

There are plenty of opportunities. Any large project in Thailand has a number of qualified foreign personnel in key roles. A client we are dealing with at the moment has hundreds of foreign employees and is recruiting more. If you are needed then you will be recruited providing you meet the criteria. 

Personally I have a team of foreign managers and supervisors in various roles that work alongside the majority Thai staff.

2 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

And first it would be good to see the eradication of the 51% Thai ownership rule which is overwhelmingly damaging to local investment and primarily serves to allow ‘connected and wealthy’ Thai’s to capitalise on large multinational foreign companies wishing to operate within Thailand, but also prevents others from doing so. 

It's not that big of a deal. 100% ownership is allowed under BOI and if you are working on a project in Thailand then getting around the ownership laws to operate is fairly common and easy.

For smaller companies it may be a hassle but it is not insurmountable. 

1 minute ago, DefaultName said:

"foreign skilled labour"

Some plumbers and electricians would be nice.  I keep getting complete morons who don't know which end of a screwdriver to hold.

Easily fixed with proper vocational colleges and licenses for Thais in these occupations. 

Am I the only one that thinks Thailand is absolutely spot on with its immigration and foreign business ownership rules? 

Protect local Thais first, anything else is a secondary concern. As it should be.

I only have to cast my eyes back to where I come from in the UK to see the mess that mass immigration of people that have no interest in assimilating into the local culture has caused. 

No thanks.

3 hours ago, Thomas J said:

Sure makes you wonder if whoever is making the decisions has one foot on the brake and one on the accelerator.  The other day those seeking a Single Entry 30 Day Tourist Visa had new requirements for money on deposit in order to gain the visa, now talk of opening a travel bubble for Chinese.  Which is it? Do they want tourists or don't want tourists? 

The correct answer is they don't want tourists coming in at the moment but they will pretend as if they are trying to work out a way to allow it.

On 11/6/2020 at 5:02 PM, moogradod said:

I have lived most of my life in Switzerland. And NO - you would not want to have Swiss Traffic Law. It is stupendously exaggerated - makes you paranoid. How much better is the Thai solution as is - IF you take care while driving.

That is an entirely selfish attitude IMO.

Would you want Swiss style laws applied here if your eight year old daughter was killed by a drunk driver when crossing the road leaving school for example?

I would think you would start to see the merit of them, no?

Just now, CorpusChristie said:

 

  Yes, because he didnt pay bail money , had he paid bail money, he wouldnt have been put in a cell 

He was put in a cell when he was arrested and detained for two nights. Pretty traumatic experience for anyone, I would imagine.

FYI you can't just pay bail money and get released immediately after arrest, a judge in a court sets the bail amount then orders the release. This process can take days to weeks. When you are arrested you will be detained until this process is completed.

18 minutes ago, CorpusChristie said:

 

   He was held until he could pay the bail money , he wasnt jailed for the offence 

He was put in a cell though.

23 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

Like my wife says the only people who dont want the boarders open are the ones who work for the government because the get paid every month, here in Phuket every business is suffering the ones that are still open.

One lady we know was telling us the other day she used to get 20 trips a day for her minivans now she's lucky if she get one

I don't want the borders open for a second wave and I am sure the vast majority of my employees don't either.

So many businesses would not survive another lockdown, that's the reality. It would be catastrophic for the Thai economy.

Unfortunately the tourism industry is going to have to take the hit on this one.

Just think about how lucky we are that life is relatively normal in Thailand and look over at Europe and the US with their open border policies and the disastrous consequences that has had.

21 minutes ago, trainman34014 said:

Meanwhile ; Thai Bosses would rather employ several million Burmese because it's cheaper than helping out your own Countrymen with a few Baht more per day which would help keep the Wolves at Bay and are being assisted by a Government filled with Numpty's !

Burmese are disposable. They are contract workers and not full time employees.

It's a no-brainer.

When you get rid of them no need to pay severance pay as there is by law to employed Thais. That severance pay increases annually; the longer the Thai is employed the more you have to pay them.

Foreigners also have less recourse through the courts and with the Ombudsman either, making them very compliant when Thais tend to fight tooth and nail and use the employment laws to their benefit.

If I could hire more Burmese and Cambodians at our factories I would. 

15 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:

Many have to stop living a Champagne life style when they only earn Beer money.

Yup.

The problem is that many Thais have no education or self-discipline when it comes to money and need to spend money to be happy.

Going to get real messy as many of them are still blissfully unaware of what is coming and still think that mass tourism will return overnight as soon as the borders re-open.