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1 hour ago, thequietman said:Nope, same applies. I am commenting on the fact that the 'reds' are saying they haven't gone away, when in fact, if Thaksin & Co. were not so greedy, there would be no need for any of this.
Actually, if the Thaksin government did not remove Viroj as CEO of KTB then Sonthi would not have taken up a vendetta against his old friend Thaksin.
The government removed Viroj because he forgave Sonthi's personal loans to the tune of over a billion Baht. He was also useless at being a CEO and losing KTB money so had to be fired but that is by the by.
Sonthi's media businesses were in dire trouble at the time too, so this was a dangerous situation for him in particular. Thaksin was starting his own media empire at the time too...
So it wasn't Thaksin's corruption that started all this in the first place. Nothing to do with greed on the government side anyway.
After the vendetta started, Sonthi used his media empire to paint Thaksin as wholly corrupt and anti-Monarchy, which of course was all spin. Thaksin's administration was no more corrupt than any before it, and certainly not after it, current military administrations have proven to be completely beyond the pale.
Once the anti-Thaksin movement gained momentum, the spin was lapped up by foreign obsessives on here, and the Monarchy was politicised, against the wishes of the ruling Monarch at the time.
Thaksin was also a victim of his own success. The share price of Shin corp. trebled while he was in office, before he sold it to Temasek, which provoked more rage among the befuddled Thai nationalists who then used Sonthi's media to claim Thaksin was changing laws to fiddle tax. Not true of course, but lapped up my many.
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29 minutes ago, SoilSpoil said:The Shinawatra governments were as corrupt as the present lot. How many activists went missing under Thaksin's rule? The war on drugs? Billion baht lawsuits against journalists? Total contempt for human rights and justice. The flare up of the southern conflict.Samak and Chalerm as his bully boy generals. The rice scheme that was nothing more than a half trillion baht feeding frenzy for the corrupt. Thaksin and his red brigade left quite a footprint.
Let's not forget the past.
More than a bit of exaggeration and embellishment in this post. Reads like a post from a person that wasn't here during the Thaksin years or one of the obsessives on here that can't admit the military is far worse in power than Thaksin ever was.
To disseminate:
The war on drugs was praised in the birthday speech of the country's revered person, whom we can't discuss here. It was overwhelmingly popular among the public as Thailand was awash with drugs at the time. It instantly improved the situation and did a lot to stop the scourge of yaba at the time.
The Southern conflict was exacerbated by the hardliner conservatives not under Thaksin's control. In particular the old guard like Prem and his acolytes (he's from Songkhla incidently) and let's not forget, as they are now, the military does not operate under orders from elected governments. Tak Bai and other incidents that inflamed the situation down there happened under the military, and nobody has been held accountable.
Chalerm and Samak are not generals, so please don't name them as such.
Activists going missing? I can name one high profile person that went missing during Thaksin's time. There are dozens that have gone missing under this regime. Human rights is far worse now, that's not even comparible.
The red brigade? A direct response to the Yellow Shirt movement that was formed by a jilted media mogul after Thaksin removed his mate Viroj from the CEO position at KTB for poor performance and forgiving Sondti's personal loans of over 1 billion Baht.
It's like a Thai soap opera, but if you don't speak the language, read local media or understand the culture you'll get lost in unfounded accusations, uninformed opinion and the obsessive nonsense spouted by a few lost old men on here.
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3 hours ago, DaftToPutRealName said:
You still get this even when you kick it up a notch to flexible schedules, remote working, brand new PCs, lunch paid for, transport included and market leading salaries -- for people without resumes but who will be provided highly detailed specialist training.
"Oh, mum wants me to move back home and help out with their shop".
There's no logic - I'm sure if you could just send money to their bank account while they do whatever they want there'd still be some sort of complaint. The fact that the entire country basically exists on the back of underpaid migrants should really give you all that you need to know about the actual state of business here.
I'm just waiting for the drop as god knows they're a decade behind the rest of the world -- apparently including recessions!Funny, we only very occasionally have those kinds of staffing problems at our companies.
Sounds like your HR and management are the problem.
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11 hours ago, BritManToo said:
I would say it's your own fault for trying to earn money in a 3rd world country.
But what do I know?
Nothing apparently as you have never run a successful business in Thailand, as is the case for the majority of posters here.
Just joining in on the tedious Thai-bashing as per with the usual "third-world" slurs.
Many foreign companies have their operations in Thailand and do very well out of it.
You have to adapt to their culture of business and working, not the other way around.
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This whole place is rotten to the very core.
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14 hours ago, spidermike007 said:
Good point. And if critical mass reaches a certain point, and it definitely will, if the army does not surrender power in the next few years, there will likely be some violence. But, in this age of social media, amd with the utter lack of moral leadership presently, I do not think the army will have the stomach to slaughter many of it's people, live and streaming. If the people make it clear how despised Prayuth and his band of incompetents are, they will go. Sooner or later. The army is a social force, that is beyond toxic.
I beg to differ. The Army will have no hesitation to shoot live rounds if ordered.
The problem is, the only thing that was preventing perennial military rule in Thailand has now gone, and we don't know what the reaction will be if mass protests start again, which now looks inevitable.
They shot live ammo before in 2010 with PM Abhisit lying on television lying saying they were only firing blanks when it could be clearly seen that the Thai Army were using live rounds with no suppressors.
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Two witnesses have apparently come forward that say Boss was driving at under the 60km/h speed limit, and not the 177km/h detailed in the forensic reports. They also testified that the Policeman was at fault, swerving into the front of the Ferrari.
Convenient that these witnesses have now appeared at this time, so late on in proceedings.
The Thais are just as livid about this as we are, and it may even weaken this sham government's position even further.
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1 hour ago, Neeranam said:
They got a lot more than that. Do you think compensation should be based on your wealth? 50,000 is what most families get.
It is in certain countries. For example fines for motoring offences are directly linked to your income in Norway.
If you're caught speeding in Norway, expect to pay a $3,000 fine on your ticket. Norway levies a fine of 10% of your annual income for speeding tickets. Alongside the fine, Norwegian law imposes a mandatory minimum 18-day jail sentence for speeds deemed excessive.
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21 minutes ago, Cake Monster said:
I was reading in a National newspaper this Morning that many of these Migrant Workers were to be Quarantines at their Employers locations.
Like thats going to happen.
Labour Prison Camps springs to mind as well.
Exactly where the second outbreak started in Singapore.
Migrant labour camps.
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12 hours ago, Berti said:
It can't get more ridiculous than to advertise tourism for a country with closed borders.
it's not ridiculous, it's everything they have ever wanted.
Total control of who enters and in very limited numbers, while gaining face around the World with the lack of domestic cases and self-aggrandising promotions like this one.
Now that the Thai military have thrown their support behind LCFC, I want them to get absolutely destroyed in every game they play, and I hope I am not alone in that.
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13 hours ago, snoop1130 said:
Leicester City FC has about a billion fans around the world.
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Still would. ????
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5 minutes ago, Don Mega said:He'd being flying in and out when ever he please already, drooping the charges just allows him entry offically !!
Correct. It would not be a surprise if he has been hiding in plain sight, same as Kamnan Po and a host of other high profile criminals with money and connections.
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11 minutes ago, Don Mega said:Doubt many outside of Thailand care about it let alone know.
Well it is a leading story on BBC and CNN this morning.
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Four types of foreigners to be allowed to enter Thailand:
- Rich
- Chinese
- You look a bit Chinese, ok you can come in
- Rich and Chinese
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20 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said:
Booked through a company called luxury escapes
Thanks for the info.
I have about 30,000thb worth of Agodacash from a recently cancelled business trip booking so I will try to use that first.
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2 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:
Not all hotels are closed. I am headed back to Cape Panwa to stay at the Pullman resort in a Seaview room with all amenities included, 3 meals a day, drinks, transfers to and from the hotel back to the airport. With the Airfare I paid on Bangkok Airways and the 8 day package it ran about 37,000 baht for both the GF and myself. Just returned 2 weeks ago from Staying at the Cape Panwa resort same type of deal.
I will book a few more trips from Bangkok to Phuket in November and December.
That's good, think I may check that one out as not been to Phuket in a few years.
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18 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:
Because even though there is no work, Thais would sooner do nothing and prefer to beg, steal or borrow, rather than do construction work or be in the fishing industry
Why are you so desperate to return then if the people are all so lazy and worthy of your disdain?
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US Dollar is the World's biggest ponzi and it is about to collapse. The money printers are in overdrive printing what is effectively worthless.
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38 minutes ago, hioctane said:
It means they won’t be allowed in and local Thais in the tourism industry can get a job.
BTW, tourism only accounts for 10-20% of the GDP so they don’t really need to allow tourists in. Open everything back up and let the Thais get back to work without tourists. Same with every other country out there. I don’t think it is in any country’s best interest to open borders now.
Correct.
Those working in the tourism industry that cater almost exclusively for overseas guests will find themselves looking for a career change.
Plenty of jobs to be had now, working on construction sites and other projects, where foreign workers can no longer enter and pose higher risks.
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Bad news for those stuck outside trying to get in, especially those who will not be allowed back as they don't have a valid reason to be here or the funds to secure a seat on the few flights remaining.
Still, going to be a great high season. Beautiful weather, pick of the beaches, hotel bargains everywhere... Enjoy it while it lasts.
Every cloud and all that.
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15 hours ago, BritManToo said:
Not many people in Thailand wearing masks outside of town centres, shopping malls, and 7-11 stores.
It's all a pretense.
Nonsense.
Nearly everyone in Chonburi is still wearing a mask.
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14 hours ago, paulikens said:
@Mr Meeseeks so your solution if is there no vaccine is to never let foreigners in again, obviously you're already in thailand and not bothered. while all the people out of a job can suffer. its selfish people like you that make this world so horrible. and yes peoples health is important but ya cant have a solution that is much worse than the problem.
and there wasnt a virus problem there anyway. 3000 cases in a population of 70 million isnt a problem,there has probably been just as many people in hospital with dog bites.
and the shutdown hasnt stopped it being more of a problem cuz everyone knows its been there since december and they didnt start the lockdown till april.
it was a opportunity for the PM to have total control of thai citizens.nothing else.
there never has been a covid 19 problem in thailand and more than likely never will be, even if they open up the border.
if you was out of a job or locked out of the country it would be a whole different story but as it doesnt affect you. you couldnt give a s*** about anyone else
I think you are the one being selfish. Putting your own needs to return to Thailand before the needs of the Thai people as a whole.
Where did I say never let foreigners in again?
"If you was out of a job" gorblimey guv, perish the thought.
Chok dee.
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1 minute ago, gamini said:
Are they any worse than the farangs paying 20,000 bt bribes to agents and others to have someone else put up the required 800 K for a Visa extension, it's because of these farangs that the regulations have been tightened and made a bit more difficult.
That is not what this is about.
Stay on topic.
Red shirt movement is still on, says ex-MP
in Thailand News Headlines
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Pretty much.
As much as I disliked the man at the time, he was as competent a leader as Thailand has ever had, and probably ever will have.
Dig out some of his old interviews with BBC and CNN if you want to reminisce. He deals with all the questions fielded to him competently, in English too. Do you think anyone in this current regime would even go on international TV? Let's not kid ourselves.
Getting rid of him probably set back Thailand 30 years, but you reap what you sow and the country gets the government it deserves, ultimately.