Mr Meeseeks

2 hours ago, George Aylesham said:

Why specify 'greedy Thai landlords'? Greedy British landlords are behaving in exactly the same way and sending their tenants to the wall by the thousand.

In Thailand? That's terrible.

Down with greedy British landlords in Thailand.

4 hours ago, Skallywag said:

180,000 foreigners still live in Pattaya and Chonburi province.  April 27, 2020

https://www.pattayamail.com/alltime/180000-foreigners-still-in-pattaya-chonburi-province-297240

Vast majority from Cambodia, Burma and Laos.

They don't go to bars mate.

1 hour ago, uhuh said:

Many countries will let in nationals and residents (Taiwan, Hong Kong, many countries in Europe).

(And for the smartasses saying only with PR are you a resident: most people on retirement extension got a "Certicate of residence" when they got there drivers license. :))

 

There are not many countries that even refuse entry to nationals (China, Panama). Thailand is one of them. 

Before Covid,  this would have been very unusual. 

The "certificate of residence" from Immigration is merely a proof of address. It certainly does not make you a resident. You can get the same thing from your country's embassy lol.

If you are on a non-immigrant visa your status is 'temporary visitor for purposes other than tourism.'

Hang on, I'll just get a fag packet out so I can calculate the real unemployment numbers on the back.

1 hour ago, pixelaoffy said:

Well that NEVER happens in Thailand! How many non thai CEOs in the land of deference and irrationality?

You have never heard of Bill Heinecke?

I am another, however much less well known.

3 minutes ago, MRToMRT said:

I thought I lived in Thailand. I worked there for many years and retired thinking they would put me in a wooden box there. I have 2 condos, cars, banking, long term associates and friends, a perfect visa history, never had to tangle with the authorities once in over 25 years.

 

I thought it was my home.

 

Now I know it means nothing. I am stuck in Newcastle, living with and relying on relatives. I am not allowed back into my "home".

 

Cant wait for the ban on foreigners to be lifted so I can come back and sell it all. And offer my middle finger to the "government".

 

How can I "live" in a country that does not even recognize my existence?

It's a harsh wake up call to the reality but we are all just here temporarily, unless we pay taxes on income, become PR, then become citizens.

Admittedly this is out of reach of most and many are too old or not able but that is what the Thais want and it is their country, so whom are we to argue? I'm sure a good few Brits and Aussies would want exactly the same policies in their own countries.

We always have the choice to take our spouses and family back home to our own countries where we enjoy more security and the family can become residents and citizens. 

5 hours ago, mighty said:

Shouldn't they be looking for an experienced veteran of the airline industry?

They should be looking for several, especially those that have helped airlines get out of serious financial difficulties before.

Unfortunately that is not the way Thai businesses operate and they must maintain control because it is a money maker and a popularity contest for them. 

This is the kind of role that demands a person that will make really harsh decisions that affect peoples' income and lives. The kind of person that will be deeply unpopular with the staff simply because he will not cowtow to cultural conformity or the whims of the middle management.

5 hours ago, colinneil said:

His first thought about being tipped to become President of Thai airways was probably...... Whats in it for me.

Shouldn't that be anyone's first thought?

It's a hard job running a business, let alone one that has been mismanaged for an extended period of time. He's not running a charity or doing it out of the kindness of his heart.

9 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

Pimp business going public?

Haters gonna hate.

5 minutes ago, GAZZPA said:

Sorry but your post did make me smile.. Have you only just realised those things? Try the Philippines, or Vietnam. A friend of mine who was a Thailand retiree is now in Cambodia and seems to like it very much,, well he doesn't moan incessantly about the country he is in anymore, quite the contrary. I left last year, i couldn't take it anymore and I didn't want my son growing up surrounded by racism and overall "farang" hatred. Good luck

Lol @ retiring in Cambodia. 

Good luck with that.

14 minutes ago, JCP108 said:

Do we know if anyone other than the returnees with fevers are being tested these days? 

I do know that my friend works for a large hospital in Chonburi and they haven't had a case for almost three weeks.

9 minutes ago, Diddl said:

It is a disgrace that people cannot be reunited with their families.  What is the difference between allowing Thais to return to their families and farangs to return to their families - both categories of people come from somewhere outside Thailand don't they?

Thais are returning to their home country and the government has a duty of care to see them return.

Foreigners are not even considered residents here unless they have PR or a work permit.

2 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

Not sure what part of LOS you reside in?

But everyone we know that has been dismissed from work in Pattaya and now returned home to Issan and the families has not received a brass razoo.

Okay a couple of farmers are getting a 5000 hand out, but the have to have a farmers registration card.

The general public has been kicked around with the rejection being either a farmer or student. 

Government officials from finance have visited the areas and even they feign amazement about the non payment to so many. 

Personally it gets up my nose when people are saying the payments are made and food banks are there to help.

Korat, Buriram, Nangrong etc.

I can attest its not happening. 

My lady got one payment. 

attempt later.

Her sister didn't get anything. 

Same household..

The websites closed now.

Prayut says sorry for the confusion. Scrote.

Ive mentioned before in other posts that im obviously chipping in to help my direct family unit more than ever.

Because what alternative is there?

Their government is borrowing 1.7 trillion baht but sqat is reaching the lowest level people. 

 

And now I cannot even get back to the family. 

Its ok for farang partner to keep contributions flowing.

What would happen if we all just pulled up stumps?

 

Enough said...????

 

3 minutes ago, dallen52 said:

Not sure what part of LOS you reside in?

But everyone we know that has been dismissed from work in Pattaya and now returned home to Issan and the families has not received a brass razoo.

Okay a couple of farmers are getting a 5000 hand out, but the have to have a farmers registration card.

The general public has been kicked around with the rejection being either a farmer or student. 

Government officials from finance have visited the areas and even they feign amazement about the non payment to so many. 

Personally it gets up my nose when people are saying the payments are made and food banks are there to help.

Korat, Buriram, Nangrong etc.

I can attest its not happening. 

My lady got one payment. 

attempt later.

Her sister didn't get anything. 

Same household..

The websites closed now.

Prayut says sorry for the confusion. Scrote.

Ive mentioned before in other posts that im obviously chipping in to help my direct family unit more than ever.

Because what alternative is there?

Their government is borrowing 1.7 trillion baht but sqat is reaching the lowest level people. 

 

And now I cannot even get back to the family. 

Its ok for farang partner to keep contributions flowing.

What would happen if we all just pulled up stumps?

 

Enough said...????

 

I am in Chonburi. 

Everyone at my office received their social security payment yesterday, even me! This was because we paid the staff 75% during the month of April and the government topped up the wages from the social fund.

If you are talking about people that applied for the 5,000thb government handout, we are discussing different things, it certainly could have been handled better and many have missed out, but there's no unemployment benefits here.

People that pay into the social through taxes don't seem to have a problem.

3 minutes ago, Diddl said:

The whole thing is a disgrace.

The crisis has been handled well overall by the Thai authorities and has put the US and UK to shame. 

International borders of Thailand are currently closed, with repatriation flights only for Thai nationals and taxpayers, with a quota of 500 per day and prior permission required to be able to enter. 

I fail to see how that constitutes a "disgrace", especially given that we are seeing many returnees arriving with symptoms.

Everyone got their money from the Thai social security yesterday so there will be many that will be travelling domestically. 

Loads of Thais will be taking their hols after Songkran was postponed... certainly where I work anyway.

46 minutes ago, thainet said:

Small dual pricing story.

Farang friend and his family went to Nong Nooch a few days ago. It is advertised as free for Chonburi residents at this time.

Got to gate (his family fine obviously). He was told only Chonburi people. He showed his yellow book with darkside address. Sorry only ID card. He showed his Pink ID (which is in Thai). Sorry farang have to pay, only Thai free. He was f__ing furious, kids cried. 

His only revenge was stopping his car for a while at the gate so others couldn't move forward.

Right or wrong, it is a shame this sh__ happens.

Why try to frequent a dual priced attraction in the first place? Then angry because they doubled down?

Nong Nooch is well known dual priced spot. Save yourself the effort and just avoid them all.

1 hour ago, dallen52 said:

I was a long time stayer

 

Until I was locked out with the covid19 borders closures.

Would still like to be a long time stayer again. 

For the sake of my wife and family. 

Or does the government want us to walk away from LOS and desert the family. (Same as her thai husband did previously).

 

Time to cut some slack and give us a break..

They are only letting 500 Thais in per day.

There are thousands of Thais trying to get back. 

You are way down the list mate.

4 hours ago, Heppinger said:

No emotionally inept's running wild, looting, burning and smashing.  so the Thai's are ahead on that front.  

Yep, they already did that back in 2006 to 2010 until the army had to come out and start shooting.

1 hour ago, cerox said:

I would say for the government there is no difference - either you have permanent residency / work permit - so they basically need you, or you are a "tourist".

 

I am out of Thailand too, stuck as many of you. But still I have to smile about all the discussions I read in the forum in the last few months that Elite, marriage, retirement etc. etc. visa is so much better. We can see know that people with a long-term visa have no rights - they are treated the same way as tourists.

Bingo.

Some people now getting a wake up call as to their actual status in Thailand.

30 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

What about people who actually live in Thailand and have families here who go visit people in their birth countries?

Will they be allowed back before tourists?

Thai nationals and taxpayers with work permit are allowed back.

Those that are here temporarily for purposes other than tourism, i.e. education visa, retirement visa, marriage visa etc. will be allowed back eventually.

You will note that there are thousands of Thais needing to be repatriated, and there's a limit of 500 per day.

The Thai govt. have correctly prioritised who can enter and if you don't qualify at the moment you will just need to be patient and wait your turn.

On 6/2/2020 at 4:27 PM, Jiggo said:

Feel sorry for the monkeys they are using for the tests what a waste, and with a unsuccesfull outcome I would suspect.

Maybe they will all be immune and survive the Coronavirus apocalypse?