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Just now, EricTh said:

Do tell us what the unpleasant experiences are , so we can make better choices.

 

Just now, Guderian said:

Did they pick up a plane-load of domestic Thai passengers in Bangkok who wanted to fly to Phuket? If so, who's at the bigger risk, the Thais from the viruses still carried by the vaccinated Germans, or the Germans from the viruses carried by the unvaccinated Thais living in our new Covid hotspot of Krung Thep, lol?

In reality neither. Vaccinated people can't catch Covid so can't pass it on. Equally, an unvaccinated person with Covid can't pass it on to a vaccinated person.

A vaccinated person passing it on to another vaccinated person has more chance of winning the lottery.

50 minutes ago, guzzi850m2 said:

So you are obviously don't go much out expect your favorite bars?

 

Min 50% are closed I think but haven't been around and counting.

No, I do stick to my favourite bars but do observe bars in the area. I think more new bars have opened than closed in the last few months. I've given most of them a coat of looking at, a couple of them very nice.

However, I admit that I've only spent a couple of nights in Central Pattaya in the last few months and stuck to the Soi Buakhao/LK Metro/ Tree Town area. Seemed fine to me.

2 hours ago, Leaver said:

some of which, despite being vaccinated, may have been infected with covid, and many be in that 3 day window period where they may be infectious. 

Highly unlikely. If you have been fully vaccinated more than 3 weeks earlier, its extremely unlikely that you will contract Covid. Provides a very high level of immunisation, better than most vaccines.

Furthermore, if you, as a vaccinated person, gets up close and personal with a vaccinated bargirl, you have more chance of winning the lottery than catching Covid.

2 hours ago, sapson said:

 

interesting, who are you flying with? for sure they will ask for a negative test on check in , but wouldnt imagine they will check for the the two pre booked quarantine tests, Did you get the two tests for 180 pounds for both or each..... outrageous if you are a British national?

 

Apparently some exceptions to the two test rule .. certain jobs and if you are returning to the Uk for urgent medical treatment, but arguing your case with a Thai check in girl may be a real problem.

 

Seems their are no direct flights at the moment.

KLM to Manchester via Amsterdam. £300 + £40 checked baggage, one way.

You must complete a Passenger Locator Form not more than 48 hours before your journey. This includes proof of booking your tests and journey details and contact details including your quarantine location. This and your pre flight Covid test must be presented at your departure airport. Big fines if you don't have them on arrival in the UK.

2 day and 8 day tests £180 the pair. I was quoted over £200 by several providers.

Just now, sapson said:

Entering the UK: Before you leave for the UK - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

 

Brits have to have a negative covid test before boarding a flight home and if i have read the gov site correctly also they must book and pay for before flying two covid tests on their return on day 2 and day  8 of a 10 day self quarantine..... these test providers shown on the gov list have prices from 200 pounds for each of those two tests that you must have prebooked and paid for before flying.

 

Like to know if anyone has gone back to the Uk and had this rule enforced seems rather extreme for UK nationals returning to their own country?

 

I am about to return and have already paid £180 for the day 2 and day 8 tests. Have booked a Covid test at Bangkok Pattaya Hospital prior to my flight. 3800 baht for same day results. I have looked for a test to take part in the test and release scheme (test on day 5 and quarantine ended as soon as you get a negative result) but no participating clinics in my area which would have meant doing the process by mail and wouldn't have had my results until a couple of days before I was due to leave quarantine anyway. Would have been iro £130. OK if you live in the SE.

Just now, Leaver said:

 

Let's say the Thai's living in Pattaya actually do get vaccinated in the near future.  This will allow tourists to return, so what happens, Thai's from Issan come back to Pattaya to work, and they are unvaccinated.   

 

They may get infected and return home for a wedding or funeral, now there is a wave in a town in Issan.  

 

 

True.  What is Thailand's current vaccination rate?  It's next to nothing.  

 

 

Lets say that there hasn't been a Covid outbreak in Issan. 

Lets say that people can't gain employment in Pattaya unless they have been vaccinated.

Lets say that Thailand's vaccination rate depends on them producing their own AZ vaccine, which is reportedly imminent.

17 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

So why not allow forum members to provide the news? 

 

Links direct to stories don't need to be used, if not allowed. Posters could start a new thread with something like " Did you see the news about............?"

 

One of the most popular topics in recent weeks was a poll started by you, @Scott. That was free, wasn't it?

And why not allow threads that were already running to continue?

Just now, RichardColeman said:

The problem with your argument is that there would never be an end to covid and world lockdowns as covid consistently evolves and creates variants. We get flu shots every year for flu variants. About 608,000 people in the world died of flu last year - we did not shut the planet. It's not a question of me me me, it's a question of reality vs covid, living with it or hiding from it. As for the 'Originated in US' comment, if you're suggesting the covid is US in creation I'd like hard evidence of that accusation

The me, me, me, attitude was born in the US, as my post said and you well know. Rose to prominence due to trump's support and encouragement.

Vast differences between Covid and the flu. No doubt annual boosters will be requiresd to take in to account variants. I doubt that you will take your annual booster though.

Just now, RichardColeman said:

We've all gotta die of something. Stepping outside the door of your house brings risks every day - WHO says there are 1,350,000 road deaths each year in the world. 13,500,000 people dying every 10 years  - yet have we closed the planet for a bad driving pandemic ?

I'd rather die later than sooner. Up to you. I'm afraid that you're a major part of the obstacle to controlling the pandemic. Originated in the US. "Me, me me, I ain't got it so why should I care if anyone else gets it." An attitude that isn't conducive to a civilised society.

Just now, RichardColeman said:

If an extra 3 million die of covid the planet will show no real hiccup in the  long run population explosion.

Different story if you are one of the 3 million or one of your parents.

42 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

10 am - looks like heavy rain moving up through central northern Thailand now, with more scattered areas of rain over Isaan. Another big lump near Rayong looks like it will also affect Pattaya shortly. Get the Chon Buri missuses to bring the washing in!

Just had a serious drenching here on the Darkside. Rain now steady but still thunder and lightning in the distance.

No need to water the garden today.

4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

If you had a high vaccination rate you could be more open as the local population would be much less likely to need hospitalization and/or die if infected.

Less likely to become infected by the same degree too. Vaccinated tourist+ vaccinated bargirl=virtually zero chance of infection to either party.

1 hour ago, jacko45k said:

It seems more apparent if one walks around Treetown,  New Plaza and even Walking St at night. Is where you live in central Pattaya, or out of town?

Darkside.

24 minutes ago, Irate priest said:

 

So your retired and living in Pattaya while the wife is back in the Uk grafting ?

Correct.

33 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

Dr John Campbell talks about this in the video below and makes exactly this point (he also mentions how as a medical practitioner of 40 years' experience, he always does aspirate - and teaches students to do so).

 

https://youtu.be/md8pJFbMVnk

Campbell is a complete charlatan, he's not a doctor of medicine, has no background in virology and makes a living from posting Covid nonsense on YouTube.

Only 2 bars near me closed due to Covid. They have both reopened in the last couple of weeks. None of my favourite bars closed except during lockdown. The demise of Pattaya bars is greatly exaggerated (load of rollocks actually).

Just now, GroveHillWanderer said:

It always used to be. The current guidance is that the vaccine should be injected intramuscularly and not intravenously. 

 

However, as some medical professionals have pointed out, although the chances are small, there is still a chance that the needle could hit a blood vessel.

 

If you don't aspirate, there's no way to know whether that has happened or not.

My wife in the UK, a nurse of near 40 years experience, is currently administering the vaccine and has never aspirated for an IM injection in her life.

Just now, tso310 said:

Just to clarify the point on 2nd dose, I was told that my 2nd dose,1st 19 Feb, of Astrazenica would happen between end of April and mid May. My wife had the Pfizer 1 week later and she would get her 2nd by the end of April. Like the first dose one will receive a letter and/or a text inviting you to book an appointment.

Everyone I know actually got an appointment for their 2nd dose when receiving their first dose. Maybe different policies for different area health authorities. And yes Phizer a much shorter period between doses.

Just now, Scott said:

Thaivisa paid for the news it posted.   That is the reason that full articles were posted.  

And is that the reason it is now blocked?