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Here's food for thought. I see more CS available with shorter distances between, than PTT stations offering E85 ???? Seriously, it's a challenge sometimes. An EV for me, when out & about, will be so much better. Ok, I could easily put 91 in, but it runs better on E85 and the savings (minor now) doesn't hurt.

Ebike batteries are notorious 'mislabelled' My 48v30Ah battery is 1/3 the size of my 48v10Ah battery, which goes 3X as far, at lease. And only cost 2X more. shy of 6k baht vs 3000 I was not surprise or really expected it to meet the posted specs. I was enough for my needs, as only need about 15-20kms a day,

Take a peek at the 'Drifting' group sites, as surely there will be a few.

Took a flash back ride around UT today, soi samphan is still soi slum and the eyesore of the city. Amazed they allow it to continue. Aside from that sewer, the rest has much improved since we left in 2016/17, and much is revamped & new. Apparently unscathed, relative to other areas dependent on intern'l tourist. Busy busy busy, surprisingly, after 2+ yrs of 'situation. Lots of old money, and commerce hub for the NE. Really is one of, if not the best metro areas to live, aside from Krung Thep, and consider that statement is coming from someone who couldn't wait to leave the area, after 16 yrs living there. Some nice landscape away from the city, as you near the edge of the plateau, with some nice views, drop offs and cliffs among the hills.

Considering state owned oil producer PTT's subsidiary Arun+ will be producing Horizon autos / Neta, after the initial introduction, imported from China. Also partnering with CATL, EV batteries in case living under a rock. Along with others EVs, I would imagine ... https://www.wapcar.my/news/thai-ev-makers-set-to-benefit-with-technology-from-chinese-battery-giant-catl-47220 So I would expect them to quickly jump on the bandwagon and offer plenty of charging option at the huge network of petrol station / PTT Parks nationwide. For the Anti EV'ers ... state owned petrol producer PTT ... producing EVs ... Let that sink in ... Take as long as you need ???? https://paultan.org/2022/08/26/neta-v-ev-launched-in-thailand-38-5-kwh-384-km-range-initial-cbu-china-before-ckd-by-ptt-rm68k/ https://www.mreport.co.th/en/news/industry-movement/328-Arun-Plus-partner-CATL-for-CTP-technology-driving-EV-battery https://www.pttplc.com/en/Media/News/Content-30322.aspx

A nobody, marrying a nobody, from a nobody, has been family. Surprised people even take note.

That's about right, as I use to sleep in mine quite a bit, stretched out no prob. Hauled more than a few friends around in it at times. Surprised it drove as well as it did, with the amount of weight I had in it sometimes. Another reason for the Sport Wagon, again, slept in more than a few times. Not the usual 18-19-20 yr old's choices of vehicles, but practical for my uses. Out & about a lot. Early nomad days ... ????

My first ride, almost, as saw this surfside last week, and had to take a snap. Mine was 1 yr or model off, but almost exact same. Wish I had a few of my past vehicles; '50' Buick Special, Buick Sport wagon w/rear fold down (3rd row) and roof glass trim. And the VW van of course.

UD Town for munch last night, and brekkie munch at place mentioned earlier ... and again, UT's one plus ... food. Dead zone, with exception of food areas. Driving around this AM, no problem, and in rush. Complete contrast to 2017. Drive up from PKK was hell, as decided to do all at one go, 12 hrs for only 850 kms @ ฿2400 for petrol. Lovely drive though, parts of, especially going past Pak Chong area. Lake full up and everything green. Getting up on the plateau is always nice at rainy season. Last time, lake was very low, and cows grazing on half the lake bottom. Couldn't see past the one ridge due to pollution.???? Stayed at Kangeroo Hotel ????????(฿550) listed as Phrosi Place on Gmap ?. Comfy, quiet, basic, walk to UD Town.

Also seen more than a few solar farms myself, 2 very local. Don't know why people expect answers, results or any problems solved by their govts. As if they haven't learned already, they don't care. Again, a worldwide problem. Simply be responsible for yourself, adapt & adjust ... install solar or have it installed. Simple solution to simple problem. Simple 3 or 5kW inverter and panels to start, would run most houses during the day, and or supplement most bills. Or go all in and go off grid, using grid as back up, JIC. Many have, as installer I used is non stop working, with a Q. I'm noticing more solar systems & EVs every day now.

Your answer is on the FB page you linked. More than a few EVs, cars & SOCO Motorcycles. Peaked at the photos for a minute or 2 and many display. If I was near, I might have popped in for peek, if free and no vax or test needed ... ???? All a bit mute, since it ended yesterday ... ????

I don't need to speak Thai, though I can get by with no problem. Daughter needed to learn English, so in our house, it was English only. Thai & Isan she got elsewhere. Paid off well, as she was winning English speaking competitions, and was main requirement for her marketing job. Most Thais younger than 40 can, or could speak English, if they didn't forget. They just prefer not to, or simply don't need to.

Comes down to the buyer of course, that's with every product and use of. If you can't charge your EV at home, or going to a CS once a week or every 2 weeks, depending on your use, and too much hassle for you, then buying an EV obviously isn't for you. Simple shopping common sense. Those who have, will have, charging at home, or during their out & abouts, don't appear to have any issue at all.

And yet ... are you bipolar ? Because earlier, in 'this thread' you stated: "im seeing a lot of ev infrastructure being built" https://aseannow.com/topic/1257405-electric-vehicles-in-thailand/page/13/#comment-17415557

Remember seeing aCO when it first came out. Thought it was excellent, right up there with 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' with it's message. Best quote from was 'No time for the old in-out, love, I've just come to read the meter.' ... ????

Smiles from people 'selling' something ... hmm That's worldwide ... let that sink in. After the sale, them smiles are real. Non sales folks ... I found I usually receive what I project. Either that, or I'm really a handsome man ... ????

It's never going to go down, BUT... after 22 years here, it hasn't gone up much worth noting. Nothing like the increases in supposedly more developed countries, such as the USA, that are just now, having state mandates approved for all electric car sales in the future, 2035 ish. Thailand did that one last year, spring of 2021. With solar at least 1/3 of the price here vs the USA, this 3rd world existence is looking GOOD. Thailand's "Thai EV roadmap in 2015" is 7 yrs in the making already, and progressing rather well. Everyone seems to be on board now and accept the reality of EV & CS's future and actively working towards it. https://www.mdpi.com/2032-6653/12/1/2/htm And helping to make it all possible ... OH YEA China ROCKS ... and thankfully just up the road a bit ????

... and CDC, FDA, CIA, FBI, NSA, Congress, WH, Pentagon, UN, MSM

I don't think we have copies of mine, almost positive we don't. Check with wife, if wrong, I'll update.

Use to be good to avoid filing TM30s. As check in with that, and if they did do a TM30, they can't with the pink ID. so Imm didn't know you were out of town. But that's about it. Not needed now, since tweaked the law, though I still use. Less people playing with my PP the better.

Still there ... Brekkie/brunch hours: 0700-1400 hrs closed Sunday Her stew & chicken curry pasty wraps/sandwich are excellent https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Madame+Phatehh+2515+(Tumruaj)/@17.4076318,102.7844941,17z/data=!4m22!1m16!4m15!1m6!1m2!1s0x31239d71fd478089:0x2432222306bdcf33!2sMadame+Phatehh+2515+(Tumruaj)!2m2!1d102.7888715!2d17.4076318!1m6!1m2!1s0x31239d71fd478089:0x2432222306bdcf33!2sMadame+Phatehh+2515+(Tumruaj),+34%2F1-3+Tumruat+Rd,+Tambon+Mak+Khaeng,+Mueang+Udon+Thani+District,+Udon+Thani+41000!2m2!1d102.7888715!2d17.4076318!3e0!3m4!1s0x31239d71fd478089:0x2432222306bdcf33!8m2!3d17.4076318!4d102.7888715 Maya used to be OK for all food Thai. Decent Beef Massaman, for NE, better in the S of course. So many other choices. https://www.google.co.th/maps/place/Maeya/@17.4038992,102.7901783,3a,75y,90t/data=!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNKvrmCS-8eTEaa8AcIVMJOw4VMsEwpfatKmysW!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNKvrmCS-8eTEaa8AcIVMJOw4VMsEwpfatKmysW%3Dw129-h86-k-no!7i2000!8i1333!4m22!1m16!4m15!1m6!1m2!1s0x31239d71fd478089:0x2432222306bdcf33!2sMadame+Phatehh+2515+(Tumruaj)!2m2!1d102.7888715!2d17.4076318!1m6!1m2!1s0x31239d71fd478089:0x2432222306bdcf33!2sMadame+Phatehh+2515+(Tumruaj),+34%2F1-3+Tumruat+Rd,+Tambon+Mak+Khaeng,+Mueang+Udon+Thani+District,+Udon+Thani+41000!2m2!1d102.7888715!2d17.4076318!3e0!3m4!1s0x31239dabd4e6628d:0x50eac5ad0a2e69d7!8m2!3d17.4039607!4d102.7902129

One of my last photos of the ducks having a family outing ... actually pulled of a drone vid from 2015.

I'll actually be up there next week ... not by choice ????

OP sums it up for me, in 'farangland' Udon, especially #3, and guessing hung out around Soi Samphan/soi Slum. Poor choice of area, and not very representative and the many good things there at UT. If you're only going to waste your time in farang areas of the towns you visit, you're wasting a trip to Thailand. Did you go to Nong Prajack park for an evening ? Did you go to Tawan Daeng ? Have a nice meal at Barco/Prajaktra Design Hotel. or Dose Factory ?

Agree completely. ALTHOUGH ... 1 charge on Thai roads 300+ kms is more than enough time for me to call it a day. Or, as I've stated 1 or 10 times, that charging, coffee & pastry, walk the day stop would truly be welcomed, when out & about. Then continue on after top up, or settle in to the hotel. My reality, local driving, since moving to new digs, and my daily (unnecessary) routine is 12 kms a day. Which is to the park with dog, cruise surfside, to make sure it's still there & return. On the E-MB, was keeping track and went 3 different routes, out of curiosity, and almost exactly 12 kms each way. Started test at 3000kms, logged after trips; 3012/24/36/48 ... yea, 12 kms. Add a couple kms to pull into the Makro driveway, actually on the way, and my mandatory / unnecessary driving is less than 15 kms a day. Which I could actually do once a week, in the EV car & stock up, but that would be boring. Local out & about, exploring within 150 kms of home or 300 per round trip, so charging at home & no hotel. Which we don't do now with the ICE, as nothing worth spending 1000-1500 baht for local sightseeing. But with the EV, we'll be doing once or 3 times a week, till bored. Charging at home with solar. Hua Hin is 100 kms away N, Ban Krut is about 50 kms S. Furthest of interest; Kaeng Krachen NP area will be 325-350 kms R/T, N'ward & Chumphon about the same S'ward. Any further and we'd be overnighting anyway. That aspect of the EV, local O&A, is what I'll enjoy the most, besides the less expensive long distance out & abouts. I should be able to make it to my daughters on 1 charge, at Krung Thep. Off course, if a working stiff, over the road driver, then no, pushing 400 kms a day, then BEV may not be the best option