JimTripper

Part of what makes something desirable and exciting is lack of it. Sitting in the Usa, Pattaya looks like paradise. Once I got here I don't feel like enjoying it much. Another word for it is "overkill". Too much of something makes it less desirable because there is no challenge involved in obtaining it.

Can't stand a/c gyms since covid. Breathing in all that sickness from other people working out is not for me. Have fun in your cool gym 🤣.

There is no set amount. The cost could be anything depending on what happens to you. Maybe consider another country like Mexico or Equador that admits you into the national healthcare system. You can find what you are looking for in Thailand in other countries if you look hard enough.

Not unless you buy the meter.

It's common for people that are unsatisfied to seek out others to talk about their problems. Typically a box shoe room causes dissatisfaction in most people. A lot of guys in Pattaya are single and live in box shoe rooms. That pretty much leaves other expats hanging around that venue or prostitutes to talk to. You do also get a handful of guys that seem to love cheap places, it's up to you whether you interpret that as genuine or denial. If you goto higher end properties you don't get that nagging as much. People there keep to themselves much more or they tend to be happier staying in their living quarters more.

Because people just want more and more. The more money you give them, the more unsatisfied they become, because the rush of being paid well wears off. The only way to keep them happy is to keep paying more and above what you are currently paying.

Those kind of blackmail payments never work, they just get bigger and bigger. You're just buying time.

Don't rule out the gay card. Jomtein and dongtan beach is actually very gay. That's not far from where you are.

Sorry, I meant 3rd road for the man/girl pair, not 2nd road. Big difference.

Just wondered why you chose there knowing about the small rooms. I stayed in VT2B a month and was glad to get out.

Which VT are you in and for how long? These types of interactions are there. I think part if it is the bar scene here. Guys are used to sitting at a barstool near other guys and expecting a conversation. I also interpret some if it as gay, but it depends on the guy. It's always at the back of my mind.

Would likely just result in more personal questions, not a forthwright answer.

How would that scam work? They are in a foreign country. Do they force me to buy a watch in a back alley somewhere.

I have never been to India. Hope it's not a gay pickup thing. It happened one time with a man/lady couple late at night near klang and 2nd road. Nobody else around. It looked like they crossed the street to specifically confront me. He asked about mcdonalds or some hogwash. I pointed them to central pattaya. Then he kept asking where I was from after that. 🤷🏻‍♂️

They are not dressed well and look like they just came over from india. Also, no watch case. It happens right on the street, not in a venue.

I don't think they were selling anything. It's tourists.

I keep getting approached by India guys in Pattaya, in the evening. Starts off with 'Where are you from?' or some similar hogwash. What could they possibly want from me in the middle of Pattaya? I don't have the will to remain in the conversation long. Last night it was a large guy with a big gut who kind of pointed to my stomach. Did not feel like a homo thing. It's weird.

i am a simp

i am a simp

I'm a simp.

Another take on it's the Op's problem.

It's getting worse. There are a lot of low class india people and chinese coming in with poor manners. When you let too many people in it changes the culture and responses you get.

Do what James Bond would do.

If you are dealing with them directly (no agent) and they say just get out, I would just leave. That's pretty much an all bets are off situation. What's the alternative? You can't sit in the house watching the door or worrying every time you go out if they are coming for your laptop. I would not keep paying anything, just leave. You're only out possibly the two months deposit. Maybe ask for the deposit back and if they don't respond leave the place dirty. They have these wet concrete balls you can flush down the toilet. They harden in the pipes later on. You can't tell they are in there until someone digs out the pipes months later. The 'Anarchist Cookbook' is a great book and has all kinds of ideas like this.

So what? You still need the docs. Does not make any difference who is renting it out. Get the docs or they don't get paid. Stop making excuses! Demand the documents you need at the same time you pay the deposit. There's no reason to withhold info and you deserve the papers you need. If they don't like giving out info you're going to have problems anyway later on, with things not getting fixed or whatever. Better to bail now, then later on.