Ben Zioner

Thanks, the PIN is 13 digits as well. Anyhow I'll send my PIN to UBS and request a TIN in due course. Remember reading that in case of audit you don't get the same treatment (10 years vs 5 years) if you don't have a TIN.

My reading is that foreigners, who don't have a PIN (i.e no lellow book, nor ID card) must get a TIN.

"A taxpayer identification number is issued by the Revenue Department and comprises 10 digits.However, a taxpayer who is an individual or a payer of income who is an individual is not required to apply for a TIN if he has and uses a personal identification number (PIN) in accordance with the civilian registration law. He can use his PIN instead of TIN for tax return filing purposes."

Yes, that's what I was saying.

I don't plan to file next year. If asked I'll say that since 99.9 % of my income isn't taxable, under RD 743, I thought I didn't want to waste their time. I'll pay a fine if needed, but I doubt it'll be much more than a few hundred baht.

The PIN is the Personal Identification Number (13 digits) that is on top of Thai ID cards. It start with 1 for Thais and 6 for most [non PR] foreigners. Just found this, where it says TIN isn't needed where a PIN is available.

Is there a Thai culture, other than xenophobia, dogma, subservience and superstition?

I reckon you are right, but do I need a TIN, as I have a PIN? My wife has a TIN and it shows the same number as her PIN..

Oohhh I thought daily. But my question was more directed at the P for P issue, because some guys here would admit they are near zero if they don't count PP.

Today I have received a letter from UBS requesting a [Thai] TIN. I was about to send them my PIN but got second thoughts. Since I have the so called LTR/WP visa, can I tell them that not of money transiting through UBS is assessable in Thailand and that therefore I have no TIN to provide? I am not sure I want to do that, because I wouldn't like it if they closed my accounts. But their letter was threatening at all, a reminder might be though..

10.6 That doesn't include PP partners I guess? But even then it is surprising low.

Not the same, they let Soi dogs have group sex in the streets, and I thought that we weren't considered as humans, not in the Thai sense at least.

Yep, and one DIU is the only Farang crime they could find today. Cancel his visa, flog him and deport him.

No worries mate, was raised on a farm, saw many humping goats...

I do read, but I don't see how compassion and tolerance, which I have, towards mental illnesses should lead me to accept same sex marriage.

And make them compete in the Paralympics. But seriously, if I was competing would they put me in a special category if I was suffering from some mental illness?

Sport is going to become a victim of degenerate totalitarianism.

I had to look up Keto. Now I can see how this diet can be great for a failing Gallbladder.

Some might call me a v$lture.

That's a strange thing to do.

The barbarians invaded the decadent Rome. History will soon repeat itself. A worthy warrior will not marry his brother in arms.

Yep, they said they wouldn't touch Section 11something. Which leaves only MFP as reformists, even though I have some doubts.

They have always been there, but now they have started this media campaign with the ultimate aim of evicting all whiteys.. It will probably culminate by mid next year when many will get caught in the tax law changes.

The ultimate vote buying scheme...

Please don't burn your bridges and keep a decent home in Europe. Keep your health coverage alive, visa issues are trivial.