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There is a truly awful thing that I've noticed here on the forum and apparently it's very widespread everywhere maga sore winners gather. That is the ridiculous notion that Trump opponents are somehow now obligated to apologize and admit they were wrong about Trump just because he won. No. No. No. Not gonna happen. As this video suggests, did Trumpists apologize when he lost in 2020? Of course not, they wouldn't even admit that he lost! Glad to have cleared this up. Do not demand and do not expect apologies from Trump opponents. We have nothing to apologize for.

Huh? You don't need to be a citizen to receive Social Security. You really didn't know that? Most expats don't renounce their U.S. citizenship anyway and of the subset of expats that leave for political reasons they come from the right wing as well. To places like Russia which now has a special program for right wing immigrants. As far as social security solvency, Trump's proposed mass deportations will be a disaster for the funding as undocumented people pay BILLIONS into the system annually (while not being eligible for benefits).

So it will be Trump's recession then, that is after he falsely claims credit for the current Biden economy, which is one of the best U.S. economies in history.

It seems to me for all practical purposes this is mostly about U.S. citizens who revoke their citizenship. Which is rather rare compared to the number of expats that keep their citizenship, and continue to file U.S. tax returns and pay due taxes there as required.

Thailand isn't high on the list of searched destinations. As far as moving here it will continue to be about retirement, digital nomads, people with Thai relatives or lovers, etc. as opposed to politically motivated moves which may I remind you is the topic here.

The interstate self sorting goes both ways. I already addressed that.

Its understood that the chance of democratic control is very remote. Of course I realize it's not done yet. It would be wonderful if the democratics hold on but it's folly to expect that

This really isn't about celebrities. They are a tiny number of people. It's about significant numbers of regular people. My guess is self sorting within the states will dramatically accelerate while politically motivated expatriation will increase modestly. The continuing non politically based expatriatrion based on economic arbitrage by remote workers and retirement will of course continue as before Trump 2.0. I do think as boomers age the retirement motivated expatriation will continue to grow.

Some very sensible observations about this topic. Pakman is an Argentinian American.

What are you talking about?!? I've already conceded the house to maga. DUH! Resistance / opposition party won't be happening at the federal level. What's left are the states and judges that haven't been maga infected.

Speaking of lies. Con man grifter Trump always thought of his fans as suckers and marks. Give it time, they will eventually get it. Now he doesn't need their votes any more, has near total power, and can do anything for his real allies, global dictators and billionaires. Six big lies that won the election: How Donald Trump gaslit America | Salon.com Nine days before Election Day, Donald Trump delivered his closing argument at a Madison Square Garden rally that drew comparisons to a 1939 pro-Nazi rally in the same arena and characterized by similar anti-democratic themes: demonization of immigrants and political enemies, invocation of strongman leadership, threats of violent retribution, denunciations of the press. Responding to criticism of this self-evident hate-fest, Trump characterized it as “a lovefest.” He wasn’t just lying. That’s too simple an explanation of how Trump behaves in general, and what he’s doing here. Lying is deceiving people about the state of the world, and Trump routinely does that too. But simply tallying up the lies gives no insight into their purpose. Bulls***ting is deceiving people about one’s motives — using true or false claims indiscriminately — and is a more accurate description of his routine behavior. But calling that rally calls a “lovefest,” is doing something more: That's gaslighting, an effort to undermine people’s entire sense of reality and impose an invented reality in its place

What lies? I missed some predictions. Now the sore winners have 100 percent maga rule. Do you think politics is over? That's insane. People aren't just going to sit back passively and watch maga destroy American democracy. They may succeed but it's the patriotic thing to try to make it harder. Also over time and it's already happening Trump voter regret is going to grow and anything the government does will be 100 percent on maga. This will happen as many voters (not so much the hard core cultists) will realize correctly that they've been taken for suckers, that they've traded their precious democracy for promises of material improvement when they will get the opposite. Also, I am not a leftist. Opposing autocracy is not leftist.

Maybe, just maybe (probably not for the moving abroad part) this is going to be much bigger than before: More than half of Harris voters want to relocate following Trump win: survey Of the 10% planning to move or seriously considering it, 90% are looking into moving to another country, with the top choices being Canada, the United Kingdom and Mexico. California, New York and Colorado were the top three choices for those considering moving to another state.

Enough what? Americans or childless cat lady Americans?

Again, you're wrong. But I'm not going to bother now to open a separate topic because unless something changes I don't think congress which I assume will be maga controlled will even send such stop tax on SS to the senate as it would be doomed to failure as 60 votes needed. A bigger longer term story is the fact that there has been no fix to avoid big cuts later even without the SS tax ending. Up till now, you could blame both parties for that lack of action. With a 100 percent maga government, that will be 100 percent on maga. I seriously doubt they will lift one finger to fix it. The easiest fix to raise the caps on SS witholding is definitely not something maga ideology would like at all. Donald Trump tax plans would deplete Social Security in just 6 years: report Donald Trump's plans would drain Social Security years earlier than expected, report says And by 2035, Social Security benefits would be cut by about a third for many Americans Without that funding — combined with the many other tax cuts Trump has proposed — and the former president’s plans to impose massive tariffs and deport unauthorized immigrants, Social Security’s funding will be cut by as much as $2.75 trillion. Ending taxation of Social Security benefits alone could cut between $850 billion and $950 billion from its cash reserves, while ending taxes on overtime pay and tips would slash anywhere between $150 billion and $1.05 trillion. Heavily restricting immigration and imposing tariffs would reduce the balance by between $300 billion and $750 billion, according to the CRFB.

So you're basically saying Trump and Musk not only want Russia to win, but will be willing to help them destroy Ukraine. What a great legacy that would be for Trump.

About Trump's autocratic threat to democracy. https://archive.ph/bhbxn Trump’s triumph threatens an already battered democracy, experts say American democracy simply wasn’t set up to “deal with an aspiring autocrat,” especially with a willing electorate Donald Trump’s return to the White House signals a significant breakdown of an already battered democracy, experts say. Almost as dangerous, they contend, much of the electorate sees him as democracy’s savior. “We’ve already been in a process over the last 10 years of democratic decay,” said Daniel Ziblatt, a professor of government at Harvard University and co-author of “How Democracies Die,” among other books on the subject. “This election will just hasten that decline."

Only you wonder. You know nothing about Maher. He's an iconoclast and yes he's also human and got a prediction wrong. He lives in LA but is always correctly complaining about over regulation in California. He prides himself on touring red states which he loves to do where he always finds an enthusiastic audience and still will.

You're wrong.

Yes Biden made a big mistake running for reelection. If Harris had won history would be kindder though.

I doubt it that will be seen as significant.

Surrender monkey stuff Ukraine will never agree to. Vladimir thanks you.

Yeah because with maga the cruelty is the point.

Something is very fishy Indeed with the Trump Putin relationship now adding Musk.

Marxist left wingers like Liz Cheney and General Kelly?