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so in your expert opinion how many more people would be dead from covid if no vaccines had been given? i have no doubt that there will always be a few people who have an adverse reaction to most any shot or medicine...but does that mean that "big pharma" should not continue to try and come up with vaccines that have saved untold millions of lives and mitigated or prevented the severtity of a variety of diseases because nobody can claim 100% effective or 100% no side effects? Truly amazing how many people who as kids got polio and measles and a wide variety of shots and avoided lots of diseases now as adults say no shots for me and it is all some big made up BS as they watch millions of people worldwide begging for shots and being piled up like firewood in piles of dead people. Yes it was a new type of shot that was developed quickly because people were dropping dead like flies and worldwide economies were crashing. One of the few good things Trump ever did in his presidency/life was to push hard for an effective vax to be developed quickly and then rather than take credit for it and encourage people to get vaxxed he does the opposite. Of course Trump himself was vaxxed and there is a very good chance it saved his life.

The covid virus is not interested if you are antivax or that you have common sense and want to "reevaluate". The virus is interested in getting inside you and replicating itself as quickly as possible. Overwhelming evidence thus far is that the vax at minimum mitigates the damage the virus can cause in most cases. Common sense says get the shot.

i have no problem with experts questioning experts...i do have a problem with people who have zero training or long term study or first hand experience on an issue pretending to be experts like we see so often on this forum...as RR said back when republicans actually made some sense...trust but verify....still good advice today that unfortunately has turned into say whatever the hell you want and make up all kinds of BS conspiracy theories and spread it like wildfire to brain dead followers who buy it hook line and sinker and even when proven wrong over and over with massive evidence and facts still claim it is all true because they want it to be true.

Gotta love the "experts" on here that somehow know more than thousands of doctors and scientists who have and continue to study a variety of diseases, viruses, vaccinations, for decades.....let me think...would i prefer to believe some half wit on a forum with no or minimal medical training or some highly educated experts many of whom actually worked in covid era hospitals and who publish their findings with detailed data that is peer reviewed and examined in detail by even more experts?

Estimated preventable COVID-19-associated deaths due to non-vaccination in the United States https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10123459/

Estimated preventable COVID-19-associated deaths due to non-vaccination in the United States https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10123459/ u mean like the estimated 230 k extra deaths in usa in 15 months? did anybody say all?

troll or maga moron...take your pick.

Don't let the immigrants poison the blood of fine white americans....like the 3 immigrants that trump married so i guess his kids are full of poison blood and should be deported immediately...give them a shovel and send them to mexico to help build a big beautiful wall. Amazing how many americans all of whom except the indians were themselves immigrants ....too bad the indians didn't build a wall to protect THEIR country.

you mean the maga morons who drank bleach and stuck a light up their butts or the excess deaths caused by people refusing the vaccines?

Like when you see a live video of a crowd that trump says is ten thousand people and anyone with an iq in double digits can see it is less that 1/3 of that? or when trump tells a whopper ...for example every day..that can be proven BS with a two minute google search? Some things you question and verify...trumpers buy his BS hook line and sinker and all the proof they need is to scream MAGA and worship a man who says it is good to be uneductated...he loves the uneducated...much easier to fleece the fools.

alternative facts...commonly known as bat shxt crazy conspiracy theories backed by zero evidence...fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me...fool me over and over and over MAGA

still waiting for that big check from mexico? maybe he can sell enough $20 gold sneakers for $399 to his brain dead maga groupies to build him a bigly wall around his soon to be prison cell...and keep all those immigrants who poison the blood out...like his THREE ex wives ...all immigrants

Hey let's all get some wolf pups or even a grizzly cub and raise them "properly" and see how that works out? Not all animals have the dna to be pets but many brain dead owners think their little "puppy" is different. I have zero problem with the owner being held totally liable for all damages caused to include if they kill someone the owner is charged with homicide. Of course the problem is often the brain dead owner is trailer trash and has no assets to pay for the damages. I see stories at least once a week from all around the world about a dog or dogs mauling some kid or some old people or some other dogs....it is very rare that if the dog is identified it will not be a pit bull. Usually part of the story is some brain dead owner talking about what a sweet little thing it is/was...until it rips some kids face off. But sure go ahead and try and defend the dog breed and claim ignorance to the fact that they can will and do very often maul or even kill people. Imagine waking up every day for the rest of your life after a pit bull that you bought and brought home and tried to keep as a pet and then the dog went off and killed your kid or your neighbor etc....tell the image in the mirror that it was a good idea to bring a known killer into your home. Must be similar to leaving a loaded gun lying around and then your kid finds it and shoots his little sister.

Champion travel soi 13/2....3300 thb...good van, good driver, no hassles

I was on a cruise around greenland and iceland about 15-20 years ago....they had a speaker onboard who showed nasa satelitte photos of the ice sheet over past xx years and he showed them year after year you can see for yourself the ice sheets shrinking and more and more rock exposed....then the ship would cruise around and you can see massive amounts of melt water absolutely pouring into the ocean all but the totally brain dead could see for themselves that something significant was/is going on and that amount of water pouring into the oceans over time would likely raise sea levels... so argue all you want over cause and what is to blame or take a look at rising sea levels around the planet and bury your head in ignorance and mock those who at least attempt to just maybe mitigate and postpone the horrible impact that increasing sea levels can bring to the planet.

no i am apparently a brainwashed lib and live under a rock....i don't have to look it up as i already did...you appear to be in desperate need of looking at the facts not that facts ever matter to trumpers....just make up a bunch of garbage repeat it over and over and hope that people are stupid enough to believe it...MAGA

Why don't you enlighten us with some links that prove the points claimed.

Total and complete BS...does your computer not have google or do you just bury your head in the sand and refuse to look at FACTS? Biggest deficit creator? Trump ..... Inflation down more than most any other country under biden, Real wage growth at record levels means more $$ in pockets under biden. Get a grip and send orange jesus $$...i hear he may need your help....his first election promise years ago? "I have so much money that i will never ask for or need anyones money"....two weeks later the grift frundraisers went out and continue to this day..fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me fool me over and over and over...MAGA

Been around thousands of ganja smokers over the decades. Not one time have i seen anyone get violent from smoking ganja. Have seen lots of people binge on potato chips and cookies though....you want violence? Try the # 1 violence drug ever...it's called BOOZE.

Yeah right from a "poster" who has posted 1380 times in less than a month....there are facts and there is spew...spew is what trump and his brain dead maga do everyday cause they have no facts....

Commit an insurrection, get convicted of sexual assault, attack judges and lie about almost everything while being unable to string together 2 sentences, add in alleged 91 felonies , suck $$ out of brain dead magas while bragging about how very very rich you are over and over, and you will get a lot of media coverage. But but but...what about hunters laptop...and kushners billions from the Saudis? Those damn cheating dems....right.

imagine living anywhere and trying to defend trump

except for when repubs whine and moan for border bill over and over and then when their own hand picked guy gets the best deal in decades and the senate is all ready to vote for it and talking about what a great deal it is ...not perfect...but lots for both sides... then donnie boy says oh no we don't want to fix border as it will look good for biden and repubs fold up their little tents and take a knee for their cult leader...so dems meet repubs more than halfway to be FOR something and still repubs wet their pants when orange jesus speaks.

I have not and will not forget the dozens upon dozens of people that have enabled him to roam the world more or less at will with little to no problems. You want corruption....that is corruption 101. I can maybe understand a handful of people but the sheer number of high ranking folks that would have to be involved over a period of years boggles the mind.

Now lets go lock up all the good generals that overthrew him with an illegal coup while he was out of the country...oh that's right they are different and never made a baht .... next.