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loonodingle, on 05 Jan 2015 - 17:19, said:philthebook, on 05 Jan 2015 - 16:43, said:
Around 4pm Thai Time on the 15th the news was reported by Samui Times, initially with the names of the victims but these were removed shortly afterwards - http://www.samuitimes.com/young-english-couple-found-dead-siree-beach-koh-tao/
Published: 08:49, 15 September 2014 Daily mail names them.
That would have been early afternoon in Koh Tao on 15th September.
And that is naming them. So Embassy advised and Family by 08.49 and the story written. so it was out very early IMHO.
Gotta get to Norfolk Tonight. 300 miles... Jeezz running late
Surely someone as crucial to the investigation as you would get a police escort.? Blues and twos, out of the way, the looney o dingles coming through!
lol...We are flying. ..
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Published: 08:49, 15 September 2014 Daily mail names them.
Are you quite sure the names were in the original article? The article was updated several times, the latest update at 13:34 October 3. If they did, it would be outrageous and ought to be reported. It leaking out by accident via Twitter is understandable, but a major media outlet knows the rules.
if you don't mind me saying , i know you are all trying to do a good job here , and to unravel a complex crime scene , but simple mis information like
stating that the names were in the early D mail article @ 8.49 is just giving grist to the Mill for your well known , all be it small group of detractors .
I too have followed this case from early morning 15 sept , there have been many short cuts and several dead ends , let alone journalism of the kind " don't let the truth get in the way of a good story ".
Half truths have become myth and then set in stone .
Do not expect so much from the inquests , i attended one recently , i was quite pessimistic about it , thinking it was about to apportion blame for a blameless death , but the actual event was rather innocuous , but help draw a line under an unexplained death .
Now if he were able to divulge that there was evidence of gunshot, or not , or three sets of Seamen on Hannah , that would be of great use and help refocus minds all round .
Agree with part of your reply.
Tomorrow is only case review. its not the inquest.
Daily Mail did name them though. If your not sure email the reporter he will tell u what time he was advised.. anyway that's all if what's and whens.
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loonodingle, on 05 Jan 2015 - 17:19, said:philthebook, on 05 Jan 2015 - 16:43, said:
Around 4pm Thai Time on the 15th the news was reported by Samui Times, initially with the names of the victims but these were removed shortly afterwards - http://www.samuitimes.com/young-english-couple-found-dead-siree-beach-koh-tao/
Published: 08:49, 15 September 2014 Daily mail names them.
That would have been early afternoon in Koh Tao on 15th September.
And that is naming them. So Embassy advised and Family by 08.49 and the story written. so it was out very early IMHO.
Gotta get to Norfolk Tonight. 300 miles... Jeezz running late
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loonodingle, on 05 Jan 2015 - 17:19, said:philthebook, on 05 Jan 2015 - 16:43, said:
Around 4pm Thai Time on the 15th the news was reported by Samui Times, initially with the names of the victims but these were removed shortly afterwards - http://www.samuitimes.com/young-english-couple-found-dead-siree-beach-koh-tao/
Published: 08:49, 15 September 2014 Daily mail names them.
That would have been early afternoon in Koh Tao on 15th September.
Off to Sarf Aflica I hope not with the Hoe Man (is it him)
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Does anyone know about Sean running off to South America.
Is it a rumour. ?
Is This Sean and Hoe Man?
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Around 4pm Thai Time on the 15th the news was reported by Samui Times, initially with the names of the victims but these were removed shortly afterwards - http://www.samuitimes.com/young-english-couple-found-dead-siree-beach-koh-tao/
Published: 08:49, 15 September 2014 Daily mail names them.
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That's the brit newspaper. What time did it come out in Thailand. I think it was in the news early. I remember wondering why it not on TV. Then it was there in 16th.On the night of the murder mon claims. Sean ran into the bar covered in blood. Jok (a worker) cleaned the blood
I do not believe Mon, but I think Jok (as someone Mon can implicitly trust) becomes a person of interest.
A.the time the names were released. 15 or 16
Late on the 15th. The Mirror, who had a reporter on the spot, reported the news just after 18:00 UK time (midnight in Thailand).
Source: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/thai-beach-murders-first-pictures-4264387
If Sean was out partying, he would not have seen this until the next day.
B. What time Sean gave the firstinterview on the beach. The calm interview
Unclear, but probably early evening
I think Sean is interesting, but will be amazed if he took part in the murders.
The Mirror, with their reporter on the spot, I think had the news out first. The Thai media seems to have been about an hour later. The Nation (that seems to be the favored source here) reported it at 1:00 am:
No I found another one. 15th
East Anglian Daily times.
10:47. I would say the names were well known by noon on 15th.
I will lay a large bet that this was long before the official announcement in Thailand, and that relatively few tourists and fewer Thai locals and Burmese guest workers were reading the East Anglican Daily News. Probably, Hannah's local paper's journalists were alerted by friends or family and, knowing the family already knew, felt justified in jumping the gun. [You probably realize this, but 10:47 UK time is 16:47 Koh Tao time,so even if the East Anglican Daily News was one of Sean's favored news sites, he might not have checked the site before starting his bar crawl.]
Sorry, I must disagree. The Samui times would have been down there in the early hour. If that Irish paper knew and the family knew at 4:47 thai time. Then there must be a Thai piece earlier. Don't forget thai news do not withhold names until next of kin. They just blurt it right on out for everyone to know. Keep searching. I bet their names were in print or at least on thai news early noon latest of the 15th
Do you not think Chris Ware and Emma Madelene their closest friends didn't know. It was just down from their apartments. Considering g they didn't come home and 2 dead people on the beach. They knew for sure.
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Does anyone know about Sean running off to South America.
Is it a rumour. ?
Hi I am in vehicle not ignoring thread. He posted on his Google plus I think. It was one of those things. But he posted it
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Investigation update.Timeline Sean.
On the night of the murder mon claims. Sean ran into the bar covered in blood. Jok (a worker) cleaned the blood ?
Noon 15th sven chat about murders . ?
8:00pm 15th party ?
12:30 fb 16th oh;not you?
1:00 fb 16th love;love ?
One needs to look at
A.the time the names were released. 15 or 16.?
B. What time Sean gave the firstinterview on the beach. The calm interview. ?
We can add it to our time line of sean⏳
The interview was at the vigil on the night of the 16th.
There was a night vigil on the night of the 15th.?
My guess is everyone knew who it was about lunchtime. Sean had drinks with sven at noon. He must have known. See these little liesy pies add up.
It's all falling into place as far as Sean McAnna's credibility is concerned keep going guys.
Inquest review tomorrow.
Would be good to give a file to the Met Police..... by the way guys you may want to have a look at this.
Sean McAnna's off to South America soon so better have a word quickly.
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loonodingle, on 05 Jan 2015 - 00:08, said:
Jimmybkkloonodingle, on 30 Dec 2014 - 16:29, said:
I Think we are all missing a vital thing here. That's Sean McAnna. He is now going under the name of Gianni DeLupo. Type that into FaceBook and it will pop up with the new Sean McAnna.
Sean's link is intriguing. He was friends with David. He was the singer and guitarist in a Leeds band called These Fading Polaroids and Mr Miller was an engineering student. Both lived in the Hyde Park area.. He had obviously spent some time with him on Koh Tao and claims he was supposed to be meeting him on the evening of David's Murder. However he claims he slept on in his bungalow, this formed his alibi for his whereabouts whilst the crime was committed.
Here is my problem and concerns.
Why did Sean sleep in. Koh Tao is about Night-time fun and drinking. He was also playing music to get money. It is said he had worked in the AC Bar. This wasn't his first trip to Koh Tao and hme clearly knows the scene there, the people who run it, the owners and DJ's. He had previously spent 18 months living and working as a barman on Koh Tao. Why wasn't he out when the place comes to life. A lot of these guys sleep in the day and party at night don't they.
David and Hannah where in the AC bar the night of their murders.
He obviously knew Mon. Mon is the older brother of the Headman. and Uncle to Nomsod. They own the AC bar.
Sean had some injury's similar to David. They looked like puncture wounds. He also had blood on his Guitar. Was the blood there because he ran with his guitar from the scene with his arm bleeding.
Is it possible that they heard a commotion and he went with David when they realised Hannah was being raped.
Did he run when it kicked of and David was being beaten down. Taking his trusty guitar with him that he carry's everywhere.
Was his life spared by the Thai's because they knew him. He had worked at the AC bar playing for example. Or perhaps he was just a coward and realised he wasn't up for a fight. Perhaps he even realised he could be killed and took off. Self preservation.
Now I don't think that Mon and the plainclothes copper goes after Sean for no reason. They wanted him to keep quite. To get off the Island and be gone.
You don't chase people into shops and around streets if you don't want to put the fear off god into someone. They knew he was a liability.
He was squealing a frightened Pig. Texting phoning and raising his profile to save his backside and get the help he needed to get away. Which he did achieve and he was off. Not to Scotland but Milan. He has not sold his story as far as I can ascertain but uses an alias. His sister Nicola has changed hers to Nic. You may remember she was frantically texting on FB with Sean while they were trying to get him some help.
We also had the pity from Sean. writing on David's Facebook shortly after it happened
TUE 16 12:30pm
Nah man. Please tell me its not you.
on DMs facebook page/now tribute
exactly 30mins later this
I loved you so much brother. I know you tried to save her. You are the most honourable guy Ive ever met. From getting mauled by a honey badger giving out sleeping bags to homeless people, to just partying like theres no tomorrow. I will miss you terribly. Im sorry I didnt come out with you that night. Really my heart is breaking. The legend that is Dave Miller. https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1 =3&theater.
Sean is now posting on David Facebook page as Gianni and dedicated a song to him.
Something stinks here. Out of all the people on Koh Tao at the Time why on earth would the 2 Thai men target Sean. There's hundreds of people there. Why not Chris Ware?. In fact why would those 2 men target anyone?
I Rest my case M'lord.
For now ;-)
Read this
Something puzzles me about Sean's timeline above. The murders happened in the early hours of the morning on September 15th, yet on the evening of September 15th, Sean was photographed hosting a pub crawl on Koh Tao, which normally starts at Choppers bar. Sean has since confirmed that the photo was taken on the evening of September 15th and has used it as a rationale to explain why he had no part in, or had even witnessed the murders earlier that day (i.e. why would he be out enjoying himself if he had just seen his friend murdered?). And, it is not until lunchtime on September 16th that Sean starts posting on David Miller's facebook. So, did Sean really not know it was David who had been killed until one whole day after the murders, or is he lying through his teeth?
Nothing about Sean McAnna ever seems to be clear. I think his version is that he heard about the murders on the 15th, but only learned the identity of the victims on the 16th. To be fair, that is consistent with his first Facebook post: Nah man. Please tell me its not you.
Later that day, he seemed quite composed about it talking to a journalist in this report: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QRQK0VHbWs
Quite right. Very Composed after just a few hours of knowing what had happened.
He obviously thought highly of him as he described him as the man i always wanted to be.
I suppose that could be true. David was a clever guy hardworking and didn't have child porn convictions.
I don't think he composed himself in just a few hours. He was in self preservation mode on the 15th. Mon was gesticulating to him to come here come outside. That was his hand movement's IMHO.
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It was said that Nom would come back some weekends and all the takings after midnight where his.jimmybkk, on 04 Jan 2015 - 23:39, said:
Was Sean's departure from the island a very impressive piece of theatre? Maybe...
- If you are going to hang someone in the hills and make it look like a suicide it is probably a bad idea to let the guy know about the plan beforehand - you may spook him.
- If you have told the guy and he's now spooked it's probably a bad idea to stand in front of him posing for photos for him to upload to his FB page while you wait patiently on the other side of the counter. A better idea would be to grab the phone from him.
- Sean had previously lived on the island for 18 months before taking a break and then coming back. Surely he would know the names of some of the players on the island. Yet his posts on FB that night are about as vague as it's possible to be when he's describing who did what that night. "Owner of AC bar did it". "Guy on the left is the leader". And something like: If I die tonight the guy from in touch did it. Could be that he's intentionally avoiding referring to anyone by name, even though I've since seen posts he's made where he refers to the owner of AC as "Nom", and I've not heard or seen anyone else refer to him by his nickname, so I think it is safe to assume he knew the names of those that were after him...
- Check out the shoes he's wearing in the convenience store and boarding the ferry. Who wears a pair of formal lace-ups when living the "island life"? If they are his everyday choice of shoe then tracking his movements should be a breeze - There won't be many similar footprints in the sand. Ask any backpacker who's settled in to the island life and they'll tell you that the only days you wear shoes is the day you arrive and the day you leave (reason: they take up too much room in your rucksack).
I'm speculating of course, but if this is how it went down then whoever came up with that plan has got some serious skills.
I wonder who took this picture of Mon taking a picture of Sean walking around in the minimart? And he's wearing those shoes again! I presume this is the same night that Sean claims he was being chased by Mon and his cop friend.
Regarding Sean saying "Nom" was the owner of the AC bar, couldn't he just have been spelling "Mon" backwards? Easily done when you're typing in a hurry. OK, I know Mon doesn't own the AC bar and only manages it, but that's just a small inaccuracy.
He would hold wild party's or the like. Daddy owned the bar. His brother ran it. Sean knows them so he may well refer to it as Noms bar. As that would be how he viewed it.
Actually it makes perfect sense. Sean viewed Nom as the owner. Which I guess is easy to believe although daddy's money. Mon was the boss man or the leader who overseas the rough and tumble on behalf of his brother the headman. He would poss view as leader of that and also what happened. Mon could be the leader of the violence? ?
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jimmybkk, on 04 Jan 2015 - 23:39, said:
Was Sean's departure from the island a very impressive piece of theatre? Maybe...
- If you are going to hang someone in the hills and make it look like a suicide it is probably a bad idea to let the guy know about the plan beforehand - you may spook him.
- If you have told the guy and he's now spooked it's probably a bad idea to stand in front of him posing for photos for him to upload to his FB page while you wait patiently on the other side of the counter. A better idea would be to grab the phone from him.
- Sean had previously lived on the island for 18 months before taking a break and then coming back. Surely he would know the names of some of the players on the island. Yet his posts on FB that night are about as vague as it's possible to be when he's describing who did what that night. "Owner of AC bar did it". "Guy on the left is the leader". And something like: If I die tonight the guy from in touch did it. Could be that he's intentionally avoiding referring to anyone by name, even though I've since seen posts he's made where he refers to the owner of AC as "Nom", and I've not heard or seen anyone else refer to him by his nickname, so I think it is safe to assume he knew the names of those that were after him...
- Check out the shoes he's wearing in the convenience store and boarding the ferry. Who wears a pair of formal lace-ups when living the "island life"? If they are his everyday choice of shoe then tracking his movements should be a breeze - There won't be many similar footprints in the sand. Ask any backpacker who's settled in to the island life and they'll tell you that the only days you wear shoes is the day you arrive and the day you leave (reason: they take up too much room in your rucksack).
I'm speculating of course, but if this is how it went down then whoever came up with that plan has got some serious skills.
I wonder who took this picture of Mon taking a picture of Sean walking around in the minimart? And he's wearing those shoes again! I presume this is the same night that Sean claims he was being chased by Mon and his cop friend.
Regarding Sean saying "Nom" was the owner of the AC bar, couldn't he just have been spelling "Mon" backwards? Easily done when you're typing in a hurry. OK, I know Mon doesn't own the AC bar and only manages it, but that's just a small inaccuracy.
It was said that Nom would come back some weekends and all the takings after midnight where his.
He would hold wild party's or the like. Daddy owned the bar. His brother ran it. Sean knows them so he may well refer to it as Noms bar. As that would be how he viewed it.
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A valid comment,
However at the moment there is little or no pressure, however if and when people are called into the witness box then strong financial walls start to crumble.
The average witness has the memory span of a goldfish(about 3 seconds) thus when questioned the variety of answers to repeated questions tends to expose the romantic notions that were induced by financial dreams that came true in the shape of filthy lucre.
Liars need good memories and immense courage to carry through and sell the product that they have received remuneration for.
Talk is indeed cheap, however a memory is priceless.
Just the sheer number of persons hypothecated to be involved in this cover-up leaves me incredulous that everyone involved should exhibit such discipline up to this point.
I guess you didn't see the actual pictures of what can happen to you on Koh Tao then? Hannah David........
If that isn't sufficient for you then you must be Iron Man or something like that.
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I think you should be writing to the big UK tabloids asking that they they put up a substantial standing offer for rights to the exclusive story of anyone -- Thai, Burmese, farang, whomever -- who can provide credible substantive evidence to bust this thing wide open.I have made a donation to the defense team and intend to make another on pay day.
I sent an email to England to ask about David inquest.
I post everyday to help keep this in the news for the b2 to get support from people more financially able than myself. In my holiday I intend to go visit them. ?what have you done ?
So one person has listed something of substance and one person advises him what else to do. But offers nothing himself.
For the 2500 plus comments that's it?
Any more coming forward...
If you're going through all that trouble, pass along these words to whoever will listen: In an admittedly sick and selfish way, it's a shame the mafia on Koh Tao did not follow through with their threat against Sean. Sean being alive gives many people false hope that he will someday man-up and tell the truth, possibly leading to some form of justice in our lifetimes. However, now we're all just stuck in this frustrating 'grey area of kind- of-knowing' instead of blissfully knowing nothing at all. I'd prefer the latter.
I've signed 4 petitions at different stages of this farce if that's any consolation and written the B2 a hopeful message.
I did see XXXXXX has been onto Sean McAnna. No reply as far as I can see.
I will be in Norwich this week and intend to present various information I have collated about Sean McAnna to the MPS representative who will attend the hearing.
If he has perverted the course of justice by his lies and denials then that's a UK issue as well. IMHO.
Please forward on here or by PM if necessary any further info related to him you may consider is important.
I flicked through the old news reports yesterday on TV. Going right back to the first report on 16th September. It was interesting reading. It talks about the night Sean turned up with blood all over him. Even says the name of the worker that helped him. Then there is the report of mon being a 70% match on the dna. And also the copper saying mon is still a suspect since it is him in the video. There are many reports about Sean. He was the original person who fingered mon and his crowd. However. From what I have seen the Brits are staying right out of this investigation. So I can't see you having much luck possum.
Possum hey
Can you send me over as many links and bits you have. I have sent the reporter who done the DM story an email to see if he is still doing wok on this as well. Please send me as much as you can as better to have to much than to little.
If you fancy raising issues as well to the D/M reporter this is his details http://richardshears.com/contact-richard/
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My apologies if this has been covered as I haven't been following this particularly well but a couple of questions.
Has the UK inquest been postponed and if so what is the reason given ?
Was the unfortunate Frenchman on the island at the time of the murders ?
Not sure about Frenchman but he had other issues family etc.
Hannah's Inquest isn't complete they are having a review on Tuesday. Advised they will set a new date then. Still waiting on docs I believe
Davids I read earlier is 8th Jan.
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Nice, OK I am not even sure if English is GC's first language,
You have come up with some good stuff especially related to Sean and I agree with you as him being the weak link, I too am hoping the Inquest sheds some extra light on it all, twood be better if it blew the whole thing out of the water................as in the rumors about what actually killed Hanna !!!!!!!
Tis a shame I can't join you at the Inquest I bet it will be a packed house.
Happy New year to you and all
Willy
Hi Willy,
Thanks for the compliment.
I guess you have watched Sean speaking in the Taxi. But if not its attached to here.
You will note he is so Vague. I went to a bar....... (yes he did he had also worked there) where a guy started asking me questions... (that guy was the owner Mon and he would have known him as he had been his boss) Because he knew that I knew the guy that had died... (how would he know that? Had he seen David with him? No surely not as he didn't make the meeting did he. He slept in as he was so drunk. So he missed his meeting with David on the Evening of the 14th David's body was found on the 15th at 6am... and Sean posts to Davids face book on the 16th where he exclaimed:
TUE 16 12:30pm “Nah man. Please tell me it’s not you.”
then 30 minutes later he posted
"I loved you so much brother. I know you tried to save her. You are the most honourable guy I’ve ever met. From getting mauled by a honey badger giving out sleeping bags to homeless people, to just partying like there’s no tomorrow. I will miss you terribly. I’m sorry I didn’t come out with you that night. Really my heart is breaking. The legend that is Dave Miller"
Note the:
I’m sorry I didn’t come out with you that night
What Night? why would he refer to the Sunday Night as that night. He is making a statement for people to read isn't he?? he is saying to everybody....... I didn't go out with David that Night. I wasn't there.
Where had Sean been in the interim. The whole island was awash with police and I bet there wasn't a soul there who didn't hear on the Monday. Was he getting his head straight with what he had seen or been involved in?? Something happened.
He said he had heard my name mentioned. We can safely Presume he is referring to Mon. So why would Mon have heard Sean's name mentioned surely not he was in bed. Nobody would pick his name out of thin air. Firstly he hadn't met up with David only arranged to (He Claims) But 3 of them sat down with him. Why? he had nothing to do with it did he. Why didn't they say. Oh Sean sorry about your friend. very sad. Have a drink with us. Terrible hey very (Or Vely) sad......
They said he had 2 peoples death on his hands. They know it was you. Why would they say that. His friends just died? He has just came in the Bar where he had worked. What reason would they say that.. Its not a normal response from a human being.... Thai or not..
Then he says they reckon he is goner hang......... Yeah right... Fuller B/S. That's not what was said. He done a runner because he they wanted him away off the island for a very good reason. He was petrified. He wanted to lay down a marker in Public in case they bashed him in sure I understand that. But he isn't coming clean with why they where going to bash him in.
He refers to them as scary people. well he would know that wouldn't he. He had had first hand experience of this crowd. He had worked for them and he knows what they are capable off. Hence his fear when it blew up in face.
He needs a way out... sure he did... he needed to get away from this situation I don't doubt before he cops it.
If you put this in front of a professional analyst who works out if someone is lying then they would pull it apart. It is Vague without names. Its an attempt to explain away that evening in the shop without getting into specifics.
Anyway over to the Armchair detectives.
And Happy New Year... and lets hope 2015 brings a Conviction of the B'stards who killed David and Hannah R.I.P.
Jimmy bkk Read this as well.
I posted this break down of seans speech
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I Think we are all missing a vital thing here. That's Sean McAnna. He is now going under the name of Gianni DeLupo. Type that into FaceBook and it will pop up with the new Sean McAnna.
Sean's link is intriguing. He was friends with David. He was the singer and guitarist in a Leeds band called These Fading Polaroids and Mr Miller was an engineering student. Both lived in the Hyde Park area.. He had obviously spent some time with him on Koh Tao and claims he was supposed to be meeting him on the evening of David's Murder. However he claims he slept on in his bungalow, this formed his alibi for his whereabouts whilst the crime was committed.
Here is my problem and concerns.
Why did Sean sleep in. Koh Tao is about Night-time fun and drinking. He was also playing music to get money. It is said he had worked in the AC Bar. This wasn't his first trip to Koh Tao and he clearly knows the scene there, the people who run it, the owners and DJ's. He had previously spent 18 months living and working as a barman on Koh Tao. Why wasn't he out when the place comes to life. A lot of these guys sleep in the day and party at night don't they.
David and Hannah where in the AC bar the night of their murders.
He obviously knew Mon. Mon is the older brother of the Headman. and Uncle to Nomsod. They own the AC bar.
Sean had some injury's similar to David. They looked like puncture wounds. He also had blood on his Guitar. Was the blood there because he ran with his guitar from the scene with his arm bleeding.
Is it possible that they heard a commotion and he went with David when they realised Hannah was being raped.
Did he run when it kicked of and David was being beaten down. Taking his trusty guitar with him that he carry's everywhere.
Was his life spared by the Thai's because they knew him. He had worked at the AC bar playing for example. Or perhaps he was just a coward and realised he wasn't up for a fight. Perhaps he even realised he could be killed and took off. Self preservation.
Now I don't think that Mon and the plainclothes copper goes after Sean for no reason. They wanted him to keep quite. To get off the Island and be gone.
You don't chase people into shops and around streets if you don't want to put the fear off god into someone. They knew he was a liability.
He was squealing a frightened Pig. Texting phoning and raising his profile to save his backside and get the help he needed to get away. Which he did achieve and he was off. Not to Scotland but Milan. He has not sold his story as far as I can ascertain but uses an alias. His sister Nicola has changed hers to Nic. You may remember she was frantically texting on FB with Sean while they were trying to get him some help.
We also had the pity from Sean. writing on David's Facebook shortly after it happened
TUE 16 12:30pm
“Nah man. Please tell me it’s not you.”
on DMs facebook page/now tribute
exactly 30mins later this
“I loved you so much brother. I know you tried to save her. You are the most honourable guy I’ve ever met. From getting mauled by a honey badger giving out sleeping bags to homeless people, to just partying like there’s no tomorrow. I will miss you terribly. I’m sorry I didn’t come out with you that night. Really my heart is breaking. The legend that is Dave Miller. https://m.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1 … =3&theater“.
Sean is now posting on David Facebook page as Gianni and dedicated a song to him.
Something stinks here. Out of all the people on Koh Tao at the Time why on earth would the 2 Thai men target Sean. There's hundreds of people there. Why not Chris Ware?. In fact why would those 2 men target anyone?
I Rest my case M'lord.
For now ;-)
Jimmybkk
Read this
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Was Sean's departure from the island a very impressive piece of theatre? Maybe...
- If you are going to hang someone in the hills and make it look like a suicide it is probably a bad idea to let the guy know about the plan beforehand - you may spook him.
- If you have told the guy and he's now spooked it's probably a bad idea to stand in front of him posing for photos for him to upload to his FB page while you wait patiently on the other side of the counter. A better idea would be to grab the phone from him.
- Sean had previously lived on the island for 18 months before taking a break and then coming back. Surely he would know the names of some of the players on the island. Yet his posts on FB that night are about as vague as it's possible to be when he's describing who did what that night. "Owner of AC bar did it". "Guy on the left is the leader". And something like: If I die tonight the guy from in touch did it. Could be that he's intentionally avoiding referring to anyone by name, even though I've since seen posts he's made where he refers to the owner of AC as "Nom", and I've not heard or seen anyone else refer to him by his nickname, so I think it is safe to assume he knew the names of those that were after him...
- Check out the shoes he's wearing in the convenience store and boarding the ferry. Who wears a pair of formal lace-ups when living the "island life"? If they are his everyday choice of shoe then tracking his movements should be a breeze - There won't be many similar footprints in the sand. Ask any backpacker who's settled in to the island life and they'll tell you that the only days you wear shoes is the day you arrive and the day you leave (reason: they take up too much room in your rucksack).
The outcome? Sean goes from being a person of interest/suspect to being a "victim" and he gets to leave the island in a hurry with a handshake from the cop and in full view of everyone with no-one raising an eyebrow. He was long gone before anyone started thinking of him as a suspect again.
I'm speculating of course, but if this is how it went down then whoever came up with that plan has got some serious skills.
Exactly what I wrote a few days ago did you read it.
Also he had worked for AC bar before I believe as well. He knew them.
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^^We ain't doing the CSI LA facebook page chaos again. Usually your post would have been removed completely.
CSI LA is not considered a reputable source of news for discussion on this forum. You may however use the PM system.
Aye sorry about that first I knew about it..... Hence why I scratched my head....
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So one person has listed something of substance and one person advises him what else to do. But offers nothing himself.
For the 2500 plus comments that's it?
Any more coming forward...
If you're going through all that trouble, pass along these words to whoever will listen: In an admittedly sick and selfish way, it's a shame the mafia on Koh Tao did not follow through with their threat against Sean. Sean being alive gives many people false hope that he will someday man-up and tell the truth, possibly leading to some form of justice in our lifetimes. However, now we're all just stuck in this frustrating 'grey area of kind- of-knowing' instead of blissfully knowing nothing at all. I'd prefer the latter.
I've signed 4 petitions at different stages of this farce if that's any consolation and written the B2 a hopeful message.
I did see XXXXXX has been onto Sean McAnna. No reply as far as I can see.
I will be in Norwich this week and intend to present various information I have collated about Sean McAnna to the MPS representative who will attend the hearing.
If he has perverted the course of justice by his lies and denials then that's a UK issue as well. IMHO.
Please forward on here or by PM if necessary any further info related to him you may consider is important.
Good one Loono' I look forward to reading your posts after the event.
Whoops looks like u cannot mention a particular F/B account that has been following this as well??? why the censorship?? strange
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I think you should be writing to the big UK tabloids asking that they they put up a substantial standing offer for rights to the exclusive story of anyone -- Thai, Burmese, farang, whomever -- who can provide credible substantive evidence to bust this thing wide open.I have made a donation to the defense team and intend to make another on pay day.I sent an email to England to ask about David inquest.
I post everyday to help keep this in the news for the b2 to get support from people more financially able than myself. In my holiday I intend to go visit them. ?what have you done ?
So one person has listed something of substance and one person advises him what else to do. But offers nothing himself.
For the 2500 plus comments that's it?
Any more coming forward...
If you're going through all that trouble, pass along these words to whoever will listen: In an admittedly sick and selfish way, it's a shame the mafia on Koh Tao did not follow through with their threat against Sean. Sean being alive gives many people false hope that he will someday man-up and tell the truth, possibly leading to some form of justice in our lifetimes. However, now we're all just stuck in this frustrating 'grey area of kind- of-knowing' instead of blissfully knowing nothing at all. I'd prefer the latter.
I've signed 4 petitions at different stages of this farce if that's any consolation and written the B2 a hopeful message.
I did see XXXXXX has been onto Sean McAnna. No reply as far as I can see.
I will be in Norwich this week and intend to present various information I have collated about Sean McAnna to the MPS representative who will attend the hearing.
If he has perverted the course of justice by his lies and denials then that's a UK issue as well. IMHO.
Please forward on here or by PM if necessary any further info related to him you may consider is important.
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I think you should be writing to the big UK tabloids asking that they they put up a substantial standing offer for rights to the exclusive story of anyone -- Thai, Burmese, farang, whomever -- who can provide credible substantive evidence to bust this thing wide open.I have made a donation to the defense team and intend to make another on pay day.I sent an email to England to ask about David inquest.
I post everyday to help keep this in the news for the b2 to get support from people more financially able than myself. In my holiday I intend to go visit them. ?what have you done ?
What on earth are you talking about now ?another novel. As they pay me fairly for my hard earned contributions to this site I shall leave the book deal to the moderators and ya self. I have my feet firmly on the ground thank you very much??
"As they pay me fairly for my hard earned contributions to this site"
Hey GC, Care to explain the above quote
Who pays you?
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Pressure on the Brit embassies, PM, FCO etc via twitter is something simple and effective all can do. Setting up a twitter account takes minutes. They shouldn't be given an easy ride which is obviously what they are hoping for!
You beat me to it.......... Excellent as I just said
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So ONLY Greenchair.......... has done something other than talk about it what they should do.
Steady on. These threads have been running for weeks and lots of very important contributions have been made by many posters infact some such as Hannahs phone incident have actually been acted upon by the RTP.
Nobody here needs to say on the forum whether they have made any contributions to the B2 defense fund or not, its up to them, anything else that people do is not done for personal gain and so no need to shout about it. I am sure if there's anything that can be realistically done by anyone then they are already doing it as best they can.
Chilli don't be so Hot.
Referring to Hannah's phone was that not raised in CSI?
The point I am trying to make is there's a lot of words on here. But are they being directed to where they should really go.. The fact that just one person can stand up and say hey yes I have done this doesn't really speak volumes for progress.
I am trying to bring some constructive proposals to the table here. And in doing that some constructive criticism should be made. Take the
Fabdrab 4 for example what can they do to stimulate investigations to support their theory's.When you sit back from a distance and evaluate this terrible crime there is so many failings not least on the part of the UK government for example.
I, like most people watching this case unfold would like to see the true killers of David and Hannah take the executioners bullet. I would also like to feel sure the correct people get it. What we do know from the Thai side is that 3 peoples DNA was obtained from Hannah and only 2 people are in jail pending trial. Serious doubts about their guilt has been raised quite rightly.
So why don't we identify as many departments and people of the UK governments, the National news media who covered the case initially, The Coroners who are ruling on the cases, the local press in the victims home towns. Their MP's as well.
Once we get all their names emails addresses facebook twitter etc then bombard them with requests for answers....???
Just a thought, but more of a constructive approach rather than days of backwards and forwards like playing tennis with each others comments is waste of time.
Everybodys opinions are welcome inc JTJ
Family of Brits murdered in Thailand say evidence convincing
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Guys why worry about his shirt...?? It's a pocket.
Keep your eye on here around 10.30am UK time and I will update on what happened in Norwich.