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Thailand or Vietnam: Retirement choices

Thailand offers foreign retirees a clearer legal route to long-term residence than Vietnam, but Vietnam can cost considerably less for those able to manage more complicated visa arrangements. For people deciding where to spend retirement in Southeast Asia, the choice in 2026 often comes down to predictable paperwork and healthcare versus lower rent and daily spending.

Thailand has developed visa options specifically for retirement. The Non-Immigrant O visa allows foreigners aged 50 and above to stay for one or more years, when renewed, for retirement purposes.

Applicants generally need a valid passport, basic medical certificate and depending on initial visa, Thai-recognised health insurance. They must also show either 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of 65,000 baht.

Vietnam has no retirement visa

Vietnam does not have a dedicated retirement visa, nor a visa category based only on a person's age, pension income or retirement status. Retirees seeking a long stay must instead pursue a Temporary Residence Card through eligible work, investment or family-tie routes, or use investment and family-reunion visas.

That can involve more legal complexity than a retirement move to Thailand. Investment-linked residence may require a compliant local company, along with continuing tax filings and audits, obligations that may not suit someone who has stopped working.

For foreigners who want an established route without relying on a job, investment or family sponsorship, Thailand's retirement visa framework is therefore a major practical advantage. Conditions, including financial evidence and insurance, should nevertheless be checked before applying.

Vietnam's advantage is everyday cost

Comparisons cited by Travelbinger put Vietnam around 20-30% cheaper than Thailand for a similar expat lifestyle. Rent is estimated to be roughly 40% lower on average.

Modern one-bedroom apartments are quoted at US$300-500 in Ho Chi Minh City and US$200-350 in Da Nang. Comparable rents are put at US$400-700 in Bangkok and US$350-550 in Chiang Mai.

A comfortable retirement budget is estimated at US$800-1,200 a month in Vietnam, compared with US$1,200-1,800 in Thailand. Annual estimates put comfortable expat spending at US$22,000-30,000 in Vietnam, against US$30,000-40,000 in Bangkok.

Street-food meals are estimated at US$1-3 in Vietnam and US$2-4 in Thailand, while restaurant dinners are US$5-12 and US$8-15 respectively. Domestic beer is also said to be cheaper in Vietnam.

The gap can narrow for retirees dependent on imported food and Western amenities, which can be significantly more expensive in Vietnam. Those happy with local food are likely to see the largest savings.

Healthcare, property and daily life

Thailand's established medical-tourism sector attracts more than two million medical tourists each year, including visitors from the United States, Australia, the Middle East and Europe. Its private hospital network includes JCI-accredited facilities, English-speaking staff and short waiting times.

Vietnam does not require health insurance for any visa category. Government figures put Vietnamese medical services at about 30-50% of the cost in Singapore or Thailand, but the country currently has four JCI-accredited hospitals. The health ministry aims for at least 15 internationally standard hospitals by 2030, including five public hospitals; retirees currently rely heavily on private hospitals in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

Neither country lets foreigners buy land outright. Vietnam permits foreign apartment purchases on 50-year leasehold terms, while Thailand has condominium ownership rules for foreigners and an established rental market.

Thailand has also applied tax rules since 2024 to foreign-source income brought into the country in the year it is earned. Retirees moving money to Thailand may need advice on tax exposure and their home country's double-taxation treaty.

Thailand offers more established expat infrastructure, English signage, public transport and retirement services. Vietnam offers lower costs, but busier traffic, less consistent English outside major cities and a more energetic pace. For many retirees, the decision is whether those savings outweigh Thailand's clearer long-term setup.

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18 August 2026

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KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Do you think parents would rather have their children working at automotive plants or in tourism?

Tourism.

10 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Apparently it is the only one you've seen

Wrong.

I've been all over Thailand, and visited many places on several occasions.

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

But the topic is today, not in the thirty years from now when today's twenty something's start retiring.

Are you suggesting no one, from any country, is retiring this year? 😂

Link please.

NanLaew Star Member

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1 hour ago, KhunHeineken said:

Strange comment

Strange suggestions from you. Why do you want the marriage and retirement financials raised, with no grandfathering with 12 months to comply and no agents? Why does the present system appear to upset you?

No need for pulling hypotheticals out of your arse, or questioning what I think or otherwise. Why do you have you such a hard-on for stricter rules? Do they affect you? Is your quality of life here somewhat diminished by the current rules or what other people chose to do?

Why don't you just relocate to Vietnam for a year and get back to us rather than copy/pasting AI, and posting YouTubes of places you've never been?

Edited by NanLaew

Yellowtail Star Member

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3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Strange suggestions from you. Why do you want the marriage and retirement financials raised, with no grandfathering with 12 months to comply and no agents? Why does the present system appear to upset you?

No need for pulling hypotheticals out of your arse, or questioning what I think or otherwise. Why do you have you such a hard-on for stricter rules? Do they affect you? Is your quality of life here somewhat diminished by the current rules or what other people chose to do?

Why don't you just relocate to Vietnam for a year and get back to us rather than posting pictures and YouTubes of places you've never been?

He does seem absolute gleeful about the company crackdowns.

fredwiggy Star Member

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2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

He does seem absolute gleeful about the company crackdowns.

A few here would like Thailand all to themselves, and don't like having other foreigners around, likely didn't get along with them back home and want them to leave.

NanLaew Star Member

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10 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

A few here would like Thailand all to themselves, and don't like having other foreigners around, likely didn't get along with them back home and want them to leave.

I tend to agree. There are the xenophobic types, and then there are the misanthropes.

You know who you are.

Hummin Star Member

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On 8/18/2026 at 2:49 PM, KhunHeineken said:

What give away?

If I move to Vietnam, by choice, or because I refused to jump through Thailand's hoops, my visa runs would be dual purpose. I would time the 3 months to take in a sporting event, festival, concert, Pattaya catch up, whatever. I have said this before. I go to the Singapore F1 every year anyway, so there's one visa run straight away.

Like another member says, I can actually do 6 months in Thailand and 6 months in Vietnam, if I want, and not be a tax resident of Thailand, and not have to jump through any hoops here.

Vietnam is my Plan B. Thailand can crackdown all they like, make it as hard for foreigners all they like. They can kick me out if they like. I couldn't care less.

I have done that for years now, but honestly, it gets tiresome having one foot in each country and nowhere really feeling like home or reflecting a whole life. Financially, it is also more expensive than just settling down in one place in Thailand, paying the tax, and keeping or transferring whatever your visa requires.

As long as you are mobile, it can work. But there comes a time when travelling becomes more of a hassle, especially if your health starts to decline. And if someone is already on a tight budget, six months here and six months there does not necessarily save much money anyway.

Yellowtail Star Member

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10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I have done that for years now, but honestly, it gets tiresome having one foot in each country and nowhere really feeling like home or reflecting a whole life. Financially, it is also more expensive than just settling down in one place in Thailand, paying the tax, and keeping or transferring whatever your visa requires.

As long as you are mobile, it can work. But there comes a time when travelling becomes more of a hassle, especially if your health starts to decline. And if someone is already on a tight budget, six months here and six months there does not necessarily save much money anyway.

I traveled for work most of my life. I had no interest traveling when I retired.

fredwiggy Star Member

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16 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

I tend to agree. There are the xenophobic types, and then there are the misanthropes.

You know who you are.

I'm glad I'm amiable.

Hummin Star Member

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5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I traveled for work most of my life. I had no interest traveling when I retired.

Been living out of a bag my whole life too, so hopefully I will slow down as well. Right now, at least, my weight is more in Thailand than Europe. But just lately, new options have showed up, making the final decision harder to make.

KhunLA Star Member

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2 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

I don't. ... "The topic is a comparison between Thailand and Vietnam for retirement." ... I'm merely point out that Thailand's tourism is down 7% and Vietnam's tourism is up 15%. Some of those tourist are tomorrow's expat retirees. It's tourism that advertises the place as a retirement destination to people.

With , that statement, 2 thoughts come to mind ...

... NO Retirement Visa at VN, so it's a moot point, TH wins

... then why are you talking about tourist numbers & attractions ?

JerryM Gold Member

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3 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

I traveled for work most of my life. I had no interest traveling when I retired.

I remember walking into the United Airlines office Kowloon side Hong Kong and rep saying 'Nice to see you again, Mr. Jerry.'

And decided maybe I need a change.

BayArea Silver Member

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On 8/25/2026 at 9:37 AM, KhunLA said:

Another Thai 'world's .... '

Rama IX Bridge ...

... "Significance: Built as part of the Chaloem Maha Nakhon Expressway to coincide with King Bhumibol Adulyadej's 60th birthday, holding the record for the world's longest single-plane cable-stayed bridge span at the time. " ...

VN ... a cable car ... cheesy

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vs

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List of longest cable-stayed bridge spans - Wikipedia

you may want to check facts before you post something of this nature. I know you're a big time Thai apologist and all, but facts mattered!!

KhunLA Star Member

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1 hour ago, BayArea said:

List of longest cable-stayed bridge spans - Wikipedia

you may want to check facts before you post something of this nature. I know you're a big time Thai apologist and all, but facts mattered!!

Apologist, that's a stretch, though not sure I even know what that means. Apologize for what, being a better country to retire in, vs VN ??? Not beng Thai, why would I apologize for anything about TH, and to who. Something wrong with you people. What is with you people & labels.

That you even search to correct me, speaks volumns. Don't let the hate eat you up.

I simply posted what AI stated, and couldn't be bothered if 1st or 2nd longerst. But I'd say a bit better than a cable car. World's largest 7-11 is so much more impressive IMHO 🙄

Fackts matter, Yes they do, and emphasis on 'single plane' cable stayed bridge. But yea, it wasn't the longest, as bridge in Tampa St Petes opened earlier the same year, so only the 2nd longest at the time it opened.

If only TH had a long cable car, wouldn't that be amazing 🙄

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Jingthing Legendary Member

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Objectively Thailand is better than VN based on visas alone.

A fairer question is Thailsnd vs. Panama

KhunLA Star Member

KhunLA

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14 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Objectively Thailand is better than VN based on visas alone.

A fairer question is Thailsnd vs. Panama

I guess these would be the 2 main financial points, to qualify for their RV. The rest just personal preference to live there.

Certainly wouldn't be my choice, as I think TH is silly small. Huge compared to Panama, as slightly smaller than S. Carolina, USA ... NO THANKS

Long country with lots of coastline, nice added touch. Wee bit smaller than Gulf of Thailand coastline. (2693 km vs 2490) Florida 2170 km coastline.

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Edited by KhunLA

Jingthing Legendary Member

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(edited)
35 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

I guess these would be the 2 main financial points, to qualify for their RV. The rest just personal preference to live there.

Certainly wouldn't be my choice, as I think TH is silly small. Huge compared to Panama, as slightly smaller than S. Carolina, USA ... NO THANKS

Long country with lots of coastline, nice added touch. Wee bit smaller than Gulf of Thailand coastline. (2693 km vs 2490) Florida 2170 km coastline.

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Pros and cons

Panama the retirement visa means permanent residence, financial requirements much lower, and the government gives a robust package of discounts.

Health care in Panama City comparable to Bangkok.

But a higher cost of livimg.

Edited by Jingthing

BayArea Silver Member

BayArea

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2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Apologist, that's a stretch, though not sure I even know what that means. Apologize for what, being a better country to retire in, vs VN ??? Not beng Thai, why would I apologize for anything about TH, and to who. Something wrong with you people. What is with you people & labels.

That you even search to correct me, speaks volumns. Don't let the hate eat you up.

I simply posted what AI stated, and couldn't be bothered if 1st or 2nd longerst. But I'd say a bit better than a cable car. World's largest 7-11 is so much more impressive IMHO 🙄

Fackts matter, Yes they do, and emphasis on 'single plane' cable stayed bridge. But yea, it wasn't the longest, as bridge in Tampa St Petes opened earlier the same year, so only the 2nd longest at the time it opened.

If only TH had a long cable car, wouldn't that be amazing 🙄

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So your post was misleading and yet you still insist on putting down VN to prop up Thailand. talk about " hate" . 🤣

as far as hate, no such thing when comparing different countries for retirement. to each its own, but you are hell bent on LOS so enjoy your stay and let others say what they will on other options without your incessant bias on all things Thailand.

JerryM Gold Member

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15 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Strange suggestions from you. Why do you want the marriage and retirement financials raised, with no grandfathering with 12 months to comply and no agents? Why does the present system appear to upset you?

As the chess grandmaster Bobby Fischer told Dick Cavett in a 1971 interview:

"I like to make them squirm".

jacko45k Star Member

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18 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Plan B is only for when Thailand makes too many hoops that I refuse to jump through.

I suspect that will come, or some existing hoops will get a bit tighter!

JerryM Gold Member

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14 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

I suspect that will come, or some existing hoops will get a bit tighter!

It is all right here. All they have to do is swap out the numbers including on (6) which is the 'grandfather' clause.

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NanLaew Star Member

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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Pros and cons

Panama the retirement visa means permanent residence, financial requirements much lower, and the government gives a robust package of discounts.

Health care in Panama City comparable to Bangkok.

But a higher cost of livimg.

I am assuming one would also encounter more Americans in Panama than either Thailand or Vietnam. That may not be a pro in some people's eyes.

NanLaew Star Member

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3 hours ago, BayArea said:

...without your incessant bias on all things Thailand.

That accusation caused me to take a quick look at your forum posting content. You aren't really what is casually labelled as a "Thai basher" but you're getting there.

KhunLA Star Member

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4 hours ago, BayArea said:

So your post was misleading and yet you still insist on putting down VN to prop up Thailand. talk about " hate" . 🤣

as far as hate, no such thing when comparing different countries for retirement. to each its own, but you are hell bent on LOS so enjoy your stay and let others say what they will on other options without your incessant bias on all things Thailand.

Not putting it down. Just stating a fact, it's not a country to retire in, no visa for retirement. If having one, just not for me, and I point out why. No hate, as never visited, and it seems a lovely county.

Wouldn't retire there, for same reason as many countries, or states in the USA, weather, since typhoons in the area, get a wee bit too close half the year.

TH has it shares of negatives, but most avoidable or at least tolerable. Yes, love it here, and fits us well. I definitely couldn't live in some areas, and if had to, I'd leave TH. Why I left the USA, besides 45 yrs was enough, no place ticked enough boxes for me.

Edited by KhunLA

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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19 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Why do you want the marriage and retirement financials raised, with no grandfathering with 12 months to comply and no agents? Why does the present system appear to upset you?

I don't want the marriage and retirement financials raised. I simply stated they can not remain at 800k / 65k forever. At some stage these amounts will have to increase because their purchasing power is being eroded away over time.

The day will come when these amounts no longer represent what the Thai government requires them to represent. For this reason also, I can not see grandfathering.

If they announced grandfathering, there would be a rush of younger future expats, many of which may not have actually even retired yet, apply for the retirement visa before the new financials kick in. These guys could potentially be on the current amounts for the next decade, or more.

The present system does not upset me.

19 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Why do you have you such a hard-on for stricter rules? Do they affect you? Is your quality of life here somewhat diminished by the current rules or what other people chose to do?

No hard-on for stricter rules. It's economics. Prices go up over time. Nothing new about it.

The current rules do not effect me.

I have a good lifestyle here.

19 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Why don't you just relocate to Vietnam for a year and get back to us rather than copy/pasting AI, and posting YouTubes of places you've never been?

I copied and pasted an AI in response to another members copy and paste of AI. I normally post links to credible sources.

I didn't do a year in Danang - Vietnam, but I have done a couple of 1 month blocks. One in low season and one in high season. I inspected several properties and have a couple on a short list.

I have also been to several cities / towns in Vietnam as a tourist. I've been to Phu Quoc and been on that cable car. I have a bank account there, and a sim card.

So, I've already done a rekkie of my Plan B.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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19 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

He does seem absolute gleeful about the company crackdowns.

I'm never gleeful about Thai's scamming foreigners.

This was allowed to continue for decades. Now the numbers are so big, and they have so many in the net, they decide to take action. How convenient for them.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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19 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

A few here would like Thailand all to themselves, and don't like having other foreigners around, likely didn't get along with them back home and want them to leave.

I'm not one of those people. Quite the opposite, actually.

I have said it's tourism that gives expats variety and choice here. That's why expats have a vested interest in Thailand having a thriving tourism industry. If I wanted Thailand all to myself, I wouldn't be saying such a thing.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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19 hours ago, NanLaew said:

I tend to agree. There are the xenophobic types, and then there are the misanthropes.

You know who you are.

If one was xenophobic, why would they chose to live in a foreign country?

JerryM Gold Member

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10 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

At some stage these amounts will have to increase because their purchasing power is being eroded away over time.

They might decide to lower the numbers so more expats will be able to meet the genuine requirements and not have to pay bribes to IMM officials via a conduit to get around them.

Edited by JerryM

fredwiggy Star Member

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7 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

If one was xenophobic, why would they chose to live in a foreign country?

To hide for some reason, far away from a country that might be looking for them perhaps? Some here do hate their own kind, which is strange but easy to understand if they were outcasts in their native country, possibly blaming their own kind for the way their life turned out. So they come to a country where they don't need to communicate, hiding away in a village with a young wife who also doesn't understand them, using their money to blend in and remain anonymous.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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19 hours ago, Hummin said:

I have done that for years now, but honestly, it gets tiresome having one foot in each country and nowhere really feeling like home or reflecting a whole life. Financially, it is also more expensive than just settling down in one place in Thailand, paying the tax, and keeping or transferring whatever your visa requires.

As long as you are mobile, it can work. But there comes a time when travelling becomes more of a hassle, especially if your health starts to decline. And if someone is already on a tight budget, six months here and six months there does not necessarily save much money anyway.

Good post, and I agree.

Many members posting on this thread are of the attitude, "No retirement visa in Vietnam, so can't live there, close the thread." 😂

They don't even want to contemplate the possibility Vietnam announces a Thailand style retirement visa in the near future. Or, a 1 year tourist visa, requiring one boarder run a year. Or, any type of visa that can be extended inside Vietnam. For example, a 3 month visa which can be extended, perpetually, which also doubles as reporting every 90 days for proof of life.

Thailand can have major crackdowns like the Thai company nominee crackdown, implement new laws for the deportation of foreigners etc etc, but no way will Vietnam ever have a long stay visa. 😂

Many are even unable, or unwilling, to even discuss what impact a long stay visa in Vietnam would have in Thailand, despite data showing tourism to Thailand is down 7% whilst tourism in Vietnam is up 15%.

Many believe they have the right to reside in Thailand, when that visa / extension is nothing more than a 1 year tourist visa.

I guess many can't look past their next bottle of Leo. 😂

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