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Thailand or Vietnam: Retirement choices

Thailand offers foreign retirees a clearer legal route to long-term residence than Vietnam, but Vietnam can cost considerably less for those able to manage more complicated visa arrangements. For people deciding where to spend retirement in Southeast Asia, the choice in 2026 often comes down to predictable paperwork and healthcare versus lower rent and daily spending.

Thailand has developed visa options specifically for retirement. The Non-Immigrant O visa allows foreigners aged 50 and above to stay for one or more years, when renewed, for retirement purposes.

Applicants generally need a valid passport, basic medical certificate and depending on initial visa, Thai-recognised health insurance. They must also show either 800,000 baht in a Thai bank account or a monthly income of 65,000 baht.

Vietnam has no retirement visa

Vietnam does not have a dedicated retirement visa, nor a visa category based only on a person's age, pension income or retirement status. Retirees seeking a long stay must instead pursue a Temporary Residence Card through eligible work, investment or family-tie routes, or use investment and family-reunion visas.

That can involve more legal complexity than a retirement move to Thailand. Investment-linked residence may require a compliant local company, along with continuing tax filings and audits, obligations that may not suit someone who has stopped working.

For foreigners who want an established route without relying on a job, investment or family sponsorship, Thailand's retirement visa framework is therefore a major practical advantage. Conditions, including financial evidence and insurance, should nevertheless be checked before applying.

Vietnam's advantage is everyday cost

Comparisons cited by Travelbinger put Vietnam around 20-30% cheaper than Thailand for a similar expat lifestyle. Rent is estimated to be roughly 40% lower on average.

Modern one-bedroom apartments are quoted at US$300-500 in Ho Chi Minh City and US$200-350 in Da Nang. Comparable rents are put at US$400-700 in Bangkok and US$350-550 in Chiang Mai.

A comfortable retirement budget is estimated at US$800-1,200 a month in Vietnam, compared with US$1,200-1,800 in Thailand. Annual estimates put comfortable expat spending at US$22,000-30,000 in Vietnam, against US$30,000-40,000 in Bangkok.

Street-food meals are estimated at US$1-3 in Vietnam and US$2-4 in Thailand, while restaurant dinners are US$5-12 and US$8-15 respectively. Domestic beer is also said to be cheaper in Vietnam.

The gap can narrow for retirees dependent on imported food and Western amenities, which can be significantly more expensive in Vietnam. Those happy with local food are likely to see the largest savings.

Healthcare, property and daily life

Thailand's established medical-tourism sector attracts more than two million medical tourists each year, including visitors from the United States, Australia, the Middle East and Europe. Its private hospital network includes JCI-accredited facilities, English-speaking staff and short waiting times.

Vietnam does not require health insurance for any visa category. Government figures put Vietnamese medical services at about 30-50% of the cost in Singapore or Thailand, but the country currently has four JCI-accredited hospitals. The health ministry aims for at least 15 internationally standard hospitals by 2030, including five public hospitals; retirees currently rely heavily on private hospitals in Hanoi and Ho Chi Minh City.

Neither country lets foreigners buy land outright. Vietnam permits foreign apartment purchases on 50-year leasehold terms, while Thailand has condominium ownership rules for foreigners and an established rental market.

Thailand has also applied tax rules since 2024 to foreign-source income brought into the country in the year it is earned. Retirees moving money to Thailand may need advice on tax exposure and their home country's double-taxation treaty.

Thailand offers more established expat infrastructure, English signage, public transport and retirement services. Vietnam offers lower costs, but busier traffic, less consistent English outside major cities and a more energetic pace. For many retirees, the decision is whether those savings outweigh Thailand's clearer long-term setup.

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18 August 2026

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JerryM Gold Member

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14 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I've been bringing in well over the 65k a month

But you never say HOW you bring it per extension requirements.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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26 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I'm sure it won't take long for visa agents to get set up in Vietnam.

Great. Whatever makes my Plan B easier for if I have to / want to move there in the future is good news.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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23 minutes ago, JerryM said:

But you never say HOW you bring it per extension requirements.

Transfer with Wise.

I pay an agent to do the extension leg work.

JerryM Gold Member

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(edited)
4 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Transfer with Wise.

I pay an agent to do the extension leg work.

OK just that, if you read th VISA forum, IMM gents are very persnickety everywhere as to how that 65K+ per month is reported.

___________

And just to note as I've been looking into it, the common perception (me included) is that IMM established the 800K baht deposit in the bank and that the 65K+ baht per month was set as an alternative.

It may be just the opposite. The 65K baht was set up as a reasonable monthly income a retired person might need to have a decent standard of living in Thailand

The 800K baht was set up as an alternative to those that could not demonstrate a monthly income.

Edited by JerryM

Yellowtail Star Member

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4 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Great. Whatever makes my Plan B easier for if I have to / want to move there in the future is good news.

But you clipped my post and did not answer why you keep lying and claiming I am imprisoned here and or that I am all in on Thailand.

Why the need to lie? When you lie incessantly does not strengthen your argument, it only shows what you really are. 😂😂😂😂

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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1 minute ago, JerryM said:

OK just that, if you read th VISA forum, IMM gents are very persnickety everywhere as to how that 65K+ per month is reported.

Wise transfer into Bangkok Bank, from Bangkok Bank I transfer into Kasikorn Bank. I keep my daily account separate from my 65k+ account.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

, it only shows what you really are.

What am I?

Yellowtail Star Member

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1 minute ago, KhunHeineken said:

What am I?

But you clipped my post and did not answer why you keep lying and claiming I am imprisoned here and or that I am all in on Thailand.

Why the need to lie? When you lie incessantly does not strengthen your argument, it only shows what you really are. 😂😂😂😂

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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Just now, Yellowtail said:

But you clipped my post and did not answer why you keep lying and claiming I am imprisoned here and or that I am all in on Thailand.

Why the need to lie? When you lie incessantly does not strengthen your argument, it only shows what you really are. 😂😂😂😂

You should delete your duplicate post.

Yellowtail Star Member

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Just now, KhunHeineken said:

You should delete your duplicate post.

You should answer why you clipped my posts and why you keep lying and claiming I am imprisoned here and or that I am all in on Thailand.

Why the need to lie? Is your life so miserable you have to keep lying about mine? From what you say life is great, why the lies? 😂😂😂😂

JerryM Gold Member

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5 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Wise transfer into Bangkok Bank, from Bangkok Bank I transfer into Kasikorn Bank. I keep my daily account separate from my 65k+ account.

Once you properly transfer into Bangkok Bank, for extension purposes, doesn't matter what else you do with.

Edited by JerryM

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You should answer why you clipped my posts

I clip some of your posts because you are trolling. Simple.

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

why you keep lying and claiming I am imprisoned here

You have invested emotionally and financially in Thailand. This is why you criticize Vietnam so much. You need to positively reinforce your decision, to yourself, and others. It shows in your posts.

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Why the need to lie?

I am not lying. You are simply in denial.

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Is your life so miserable you have to keep lying about mine?

I have a great lifestyle here, with a emphasis on freedom, including freedom to even move countries should I want to.

7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

From what you say life is great, why the lies?

Life is great, no lies, that's just your imagination, or the Leo. 😂

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KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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7 minutes ago, JerryM said:

Once you properly transfer into Bangkok Bank, for extension purposes, doesn't matter what else you do with.

I know, that's why I do it this way.

Some for compliance reasons, some for security reasons, some for privacy reasons.

JerryM Gold Member

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Just now, KhunHeineken said:

I know, that's why I do it this way.

Some for compliance reasons, some for security reasons, some for privacy reasons.

Well OK but until you do it with an IMM officer wearing her visor, you ain't have done it.

Edited by JerryM

Yellowtail Star Member

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2 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

I clip some of your posts because you are trolling. Simple.

You have invested emotionally and financially in Thailand. This is why you criticize Vietnam so much. You need to positively reinforce your decision, to yourself, and others. It shows in your posts.

I am not lying. You are simply in denial.

I have a great lifestyle here, with a emphasis on freedom, including freedom to even move countries should I want to.

Life is great, no lies, that's just your imagination, or the Leo. 😂

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Having investments in Thailand does not mean I am imprisoned here and or that I am all in on Thailand.

Why do you keep telling that lie?

And now you are lying and claiming I have criticized Vietnam, I have not.

Okay your life is great, why the lies? 😂😂😂😂

Bredbury Blue Ruby Member

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In Thailand retirees live all over the country. Upcountry Thailand these days is comfortable, most towns and cities have decent supermarkets, 7/11s are everywhere, petrol stations offer coffee shops, restaurants, etc. It's comfortable.

In comparison, Upcountry Vietnam is basic. My experience working there for several years is: - Supermarkets are not every where.

Petrol stations offer petrol, no food outlets.

I used to do regularly a 5 hr 200km drive (roads poor) from work place to HCMC and there were only a couple of pee stops; most men peeing at the side of the road, not great if female.

Upcountry Vietnam has yet to reach the level of Upcountry Thailand when I arrived here nearly 40 years ago.

Retirees are going to be limited to the few major towns and Cities in Vietnam. If living in a city like HCMC Hanoi Danang etc is your cup of tea then Vietnam should suit, but living in Thailand allows you to live in a far greater types of places from Bkk to CM Phuket Krabi Kanchanaburi Sakhon Nakhon Tak etc.

Vietnam is a communist state. You will likely be watched. Hosts or homeowners must report overnight visitors through the

VNeID digital identity application or notify the local ward police. Some hotels—especially budget options, local guesthouses, or those in rural areas—may still ask for a marriage certificate or refuse unmarried mixed-gender couples out of caution, tradition, or fear of local police inspections related to anti-prostitution laws. Back in the 90s, staying with a mate working in HCMC, he said his house had been reported to the police and was watched. While I was working there this decade, this is still going on. Retirees need to factor in if you like Big Brother watching you.

Thailand may not be great in every aspect but it wins hands down for me when compared to current Vietnam.

If you are considering Vietnam, go visit a few places to get a feel for the place and if you like it BEFORE moving there. I get the feeling from reading some of the posts that some are posting with no actual experience of Vietnam. It's a fine place for a visit/holiday, I really like District 1 in HCMC, but I'm not sure I'd want to live full time in Vietnam.

KhunLA Star Member

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1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

Why do you keep lying and claiming I am imprisoned here? Have to lie incessantly does not strengthen your argument.

Not to worry, I'm sure it won't take long for visa agents to get set up in Vietnam. 😂😂😂😂

They already have agents, so 90 day thingys can be renewed without leaving VN

53 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Great. Whatever makes my Plan B easier for if I have to / want to move there in the future is good news.

Agents already availabel in VN, so you could go there anytime you wanted. Maybe after you test out TH, some day 🤣

Your BS gets sillier & sillier with every post.

Edited by KhunLA

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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33 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

They already have agents, so 90 day thingys can be renewed without leaving VN

Link please.

33 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Agents already availabel in VN, so you could go there anytime you wanted.

My information is you still have to cross a border every 90 days, but can live in Vietnam on 90 day back to back tourist visas, or, marry a Vietnamese national for a 5 year visa.

Where does your information come from? Can you post a link?

KhunLA Star Member

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11 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Link please.

My information is you still have to cross a border every 90 days, but can live in Vietnam on 90 day back to back tourist visas, or, marry a Vietnamese national for a 5 year visa.

Where does your information come from? Can you post a link?

Your reading comprehension sucks. That's what the agent is for, no need to do border runs. Thought that was common knowledge, like agent use in TH, and you all knowing, should already know that.

So you have researched staying in VN at all. Not much of a plan B.

Unless they cracked down on that 'agent use'. Haven't read anyting of, as simply don't care.

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KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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5 hours ago, JerryM said:

Well OK but until you do it with an IMM officer wearing her visor, you ain't have done it.

That is the beauty of Thailand, and its corruption, in all its glory. You can do it, without doing it. 😂

JerryM Gold Member

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5 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

That is the beauty of Thailand, and its corruption, in all its glory. You can do it, without doing it. 😂

With 65k you have to do it.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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5 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Upcountry Vietnam has yet to reach the level of Upcountry Thailand when I arrived here nearly 40 years ago.

Retirees are going to be limited to the few major towns and Cities in Vietnam. If living in a city like HCMC Hanoi Danang etc is your cup of tea then Vietnam should suit, but living in Thailand allows you to live in a far greater types of places from Bkk to CM Phuket Krabi Kanchanaburi Sakhon Nakhon Tak etc.

Strange comment.

To my knowledge, a foreigner with a visa can go anywhere and live anywhere in Vietnam they chose, military zones aside. Do you have a link to show foreigners can only live in major cities?

5 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

In Thailand retirees live all over the country. Upcountry Thailand these days is comfortable, most towns and cities have decent supermarkets, 7/11s are everywhere, petrol stations offer coffee shops, restaurants, etc. It's comfortable.

In comparison, Upcountry Vietnam is basic. My experience working there for several years is: - Supermarkets are not every where.

Petrol stations offer petrol, no food outlets.

I've cruised through several villages in Issan. No big supermarkets in them. For example, if you live in a village out of Udon, and you want a big supermarket, then you have to go into Udon.

5 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

I used to do regularly a 5 hr 200km drive (roads poor) from work place to HCMC and there were only a couple of pee stops; most men peeing at the side of the road, not great if female.

See it in Thailand also. How many years ago?

5 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Vietnam is a communist state. You will likely be watched. Hosts or homeowners must report overnight visitors through the

VNeID digital identity application or notify the local ward police.

Like the TM30, right?

5 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Some hotels—especially budget options, local guesthouses, or those in rural areas—may still ask for a marriage certificate or refuse unmarried mixed-gender couples out of caution, tradition, or fear of local police inspections related to anti-prostitution laws. Back in the 90s, staying with a mate working in HCMC, he said his house had been reported to the police and was watched. While I was working there this decade, this is still going on. Retirees need to factor in if you like Big Brother watching you.

Those days are well and truly gone.

5 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

Thailand may not be great in every aspect but it wins hands down for me when compared to current Vietnam.

The gap is closing, and rapidly. This is evident with tourism. Thailand down 7%, Vietnam up 15%.

5 hours ago, Bredbury Blue said:

If you are considering Vietnam, go visit a few places to get a feel for the place and if you like it BEFORE moving there. I get the feeling from reading some of the posts that some are posting with no actual experience of Vietnam. It's a fine place for a visit/holiday, I really like District 1 in HCMC, but I'm not sure I'd want to live full time in Vietnam.

Been there, done that. Even picked my condo block in Danang.

In my opinion, Vietnam is a good Plan B for those who are capable of a visa run every 90 days, and, they are looking at a long stay visa in the near future, which will make Vietnam very attractive as a retirement destination, quite possibly, more attractive than Vietnam to those soon retiring.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Your reading comprehension sucks. That's what the agent is for, no need to do border runs. Thought that was common knowledge, like agent use in TH, and you all knowing, should already know that.

Ok, well, without a link, I call BS, even more so from you, because you've never even been there, so how would you know?

What you post is not the current information I have from friends there, and one of them is a visa runner.

I believe you could do that in the past, a long time ago, but not now.

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

So you have researched staying in VN at all. Not much of a plan B.

More trolling from a guy who's never even been there.

In any case, crossing a border every 90 days is no problem for me.

Anyway, Vietnam will be announcing a long stay visa soon, so it's a moot point. 🙂

4 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Unless they cracked down on that 'agent use'. Haven't read anyting of, as simply don't care.

Nothing to read cause it doesn't exist.

Yes, there are visa agents in Vietnam, they are even online, but one still has to cross a border.

KhunHeineken Diamond Member

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19 minutes ago, JerryM said:

With 65k you have to do it.

Only if I want to. 😂

jacko45k Star Member

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18 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

The Thai government should pay foreigners to marry Thai women. 😂 😂

They get a 400,000 baht discount!

SiSePuede419 Ruby Member

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An 81-year-old American tourist was rescued after showing signs of a stroke while entering Vietnam from Laos on Friday and later expressed a wish to donate his organs in Vietnam after his death.

Vietnam: Come for the low cost retirement destination, stay to donate your organs 🫪

KhunLA Star Member

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2 hours ago, SiSePuede419 said:

An 81-year-old American tourist was rescued after showing signs of a stroke while entering Vietnam from Laos on Friday and later expressed a wish to donate his organs in Vietnam after his death.

Vietnam: Come for the low cost retirement destination, stay to donate your organs 🫪

Curious, so asked, although the sources may be a bit bias 🙄

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Bredbury Blue Ruby Member

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17 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Strange comment.

To my knowledge, a foreigner with a visa can go anywhere and live anywhere in Vietnam they chose, military zones aside. Do you have a link to show foreigners can only live in major cities?

I've cruised through several villages in Issan. No big supermarkets in them. For example, if you live in a village out of Udon, and you want a big supermarket, then you have to go into Udon.

See it in Thailand also. How many years ago?

Like the TM30, right?

Those days are well and truly gone.

The gap is closing, and rapidly. This is evident with tourism. Thailand down 7%, Vietnam up 15%.

Been there, done that. Even picked my condo block in Danang.

In my opinion, Vietnam is a good Plan B for those who are capable of a visa run every 90 days, and, they are looking at a long stay visa in the near future, which will make Vietnam very attractive as a retirement destination, quite possibly, more attractive than Vietnam to those soon retiring.

In response to your comments

1. "Strange comment".

I'm not sure if you understood my comment correctly. Of course foreigners can go anywhere in Vietnam, the point I was making is that they are unlikely to want to live "upcountry" Vietnam in comparison to the loads of expats living "upcountry" Thailand.

2. "I've cruised through several villages in Issan".

You may have travelled "upcountry" Isaan but have you travelled "upcountry" Vietnam, through little towns and villages? Based on your comments I'm guessing you haven't. It's far more basic in Vietnam compared to Thailand as I mentioned in my comments and I suspect that wouldn't suit lots of retirees.

3. "See it in Thailand also. How many years ago?"

Yes you do see Thai men peeing at the side of the road, but it isn't necessary as there are petrol stations everywhere with decent toilets. That's not the case in Vietnam when I was working there a few years ago - there were few petrol stations upcountry (mainly places with a petrol pump) necessitating peeing at the side of the road. Have done any road trips outside the major cities?

4. "Like the TM30, right?"

Come on, Vietnam watching on expat residences is no where as intrusive or the same as Thailand's 90 day reporting requirement (which can be done online, by post or in imm off taking minutes) is it!

5. "Those days are well and truly gone."

That's not my experience in Vietnam. Also did some goggling and it still happens.

6. "Been there, done that. Even picked my condo block in Danang."

Exactly the point of my earlier post, thank you. Vietnam is fine to live in HCMC, Hanoi Danang and a few other cities, but it's not a great place for expats in "upcountry Vietnam" compared to Thailand's many Nakhon Nowhere options - my experience from working 5 hours away from HCMC in a small town.

Please do not think I'm anti-Vietnam, it's a decent enough place for a holiday/place to work. I have experienced +30 years in Thailand and 3 years working in southern Vietnam (with monthly stays in District 1), and in my opinion, Vietnam currently is not comparable to Thailand as a place to live for expats. Vietnam or Philippines may be a good Plan B for some expats.

Enjoy living in tourist town Danang.

SiSePuede419 Ruby Member

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2 hours ago, KhunLA said:

Curious, so asked, although the sources may be a bit bias 🙄

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It's a lot easier waking up in a bathtub of ice in Manila after meeting a lovely flight attendant at a bar who speaks perfect English and is a knockout who's attracted to older rich guys who like adventure. 😎

SamSpade Silver Member

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Guys who are considering moving to "Live" in Vietnam on border runs might want to check out this guy's YT chanel....https://www.youtube.com/@duongglobalbusinessconsulting/videos

His latest short on Vietnam Visa runs...

I like Vietnam (am off to HCM for 3 weeks in November & might do a couple of weeks in PQ) but I couldn't live somewhere on the basis of doing border bounces every 45 days, at least in Thailand I get 12 months.

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