UK baby/Thai mum visa for stay for baby 5mth

[raven0099]

 My wife (Thai with Thai passport) is planning to take our little boy back to Thailand for 5 months, he was born in the UK April 2017 and holds a UK passport, when he travels his birth will have been registered at the Thai embassy in London a couple of days before.

They are both travelling together from London to BKK with a return flight booked.

Is this likely to cause any problems for flying there ?

As I would imagine he will get the standard 30 day visa on arrival, will my wife be able to get his visa extended at her local immigration office ?

Edited September 7, 2017 by raven0099

[BritTim]

It would have been easier to register the birth at the Thai Embassy in time to get the child a passport (but I understand that takes 30 days). I would be inclined, when visiting the embassy, to ask if it is possible to get an emergency travel document for your baby. That would allow him to enter Thailand as a Thai, and, hopefully, avoid later complications.

 

If entering on a UK passport, getting extensions is probably not worthwhile as there are no fines associated with overstays for those under 16.

 

Have you looked into, and considered, the possibility that your son could be conscripted once turning 18 if registered at an Amphur in Thailand? It might be better to avoid that which certainly suggests it is better to get Thai passports from the Embassy in the future. To get a passport in Thailand, it would be necessary to register at an Amphur.

[raven0099]

Hi Tim,

 

we basically only arrive in London on the Thursday evening so have only one day to register my sons birth before my wife and son fly to Thailand on the Saturday. Registering the birth shouldn't be an issue , and I am not sure about the E-passport because its says by appointment only but I cant find anywhere to make an appointment on the thai embassy website in London.

 

Yes we definetly want to avoid a military call up further down the line , that was on my mind.

[ubonjoe]

The passport can be applied for at the same time your register the birth and get their Thai birth certificate. But is takes at least 4 weeks to get the passport.

You could request a certificate of identity so he could enter the country as a Thai national and then get his passport while here.

It is a little early in his life to worry about him be called for the draft at the age of 21. There might not even one then.

[raven0099]

What are the pro's and con's of registering his birth at the thai embassy in London, thinking about it now I am not really sure what the benefits are for my son ?

 

Could anyone advise

 

Thanks

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, raven0099 said:

What are the pro's and con's of registering his birth at the thai embassy in London, thinking about it now I am not really sure what the benefits are for my son ?

 

Could anyone advise

 

Thanks

It is for his benefit in the future. Without one he can never get a Thai passport, house book registration and a ID card.

Doing it later in his life will be much more difficult. The embassy is the only place it can be applied for.

[raven0099]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

It is for his benefit in the future. Without one he can never get a Thai passport, house book registration and a ID card.

Doing it later in his life will be much more difficult. The embassy is the only place it can be applied for.

Thanks mate.

 

sounds very worthwhile then, does it mean he could be selected for the army in later life or is that only if he is registered in Thailand ?

[Paul944]

The baby can travel on a UK passport. Only issue can be that the people at the check in counter at the airport can refuse him on the plane if the airliner has the policy you need a valid visa if the return date on the ticket is more as 30 days after entering Thailand. I have a friend who had the same in the Netherlands. She got questioned at the check in counter of Eva Air but the baby was allowed because the mother had a Thai passport.

 

Officially he will be overstaying if entering Thailand with a UK passport and stay for 5 months but for kids below 12 years there are no consequences.

 

 

[jeab1980]

Dont worry about conscription as UJ says it 21 years away might not even be conscription by then. Get him registered at Thai embassy. I would even delay coming over untill he gets his Thai passport. Saves a lot of hassle.

Edited September 13, 2017 by jeab1980

[raven0099]

4 hours ago, jeab1980 said:

Dont worry about conscription as UJ says it 21 years away might not even be conscription by then. Get him registered at Thai embassy. I would even delay coming over untill he gets his Thai passport. Saves a lot of hassle.

We can't delay going because its all booked to go, and the dates for London are also set so its not financially possible for us to change everything since we are travelling down from North Scotland.

[raven0099]

4 hours ago, Paul944 said:

The baby can travel on a UK passport. Only issue can be that the people at the check in counter at the airport can refuse him on the plane if the airliner has the policy you need a valid visa if the return date on the ticket is more as 30 days after entering Thailand. I have a friend who had the same in the Netherlands. She got questioned at the check in counter of Eva Air but the baby was allowed because the mother had a Thai passport.

 

Officially he will be overstaying if entering Thailand with a UK passport and stay for 5 months but for kids below 12 years there are no consequences.

 

 

His mother has a Thai passport so hopefully it will be fine.

 

I told my wife to visit her local immigration office in Thailand when they arrive and explain the situation so hopefully they might extend his visa.

[jeab1980]

4 hours ago, raven0099 said:

His mother has a Thai passport so hopefully it will be fine.

 

I told my wife to visit her local immigration office in Thailand when they arrive and explain the situation so hopefully they might extend his visa.

Stay away from immigration baby can be on overstay but there will be no action taken when you or wife leaves with Baby.

[ubonjoe]

5 hours ago, raven0099 said:

I told my wife to visit her local immigration office in Thailand when they arrive and explain the situation so hopefully they might extend his visa.

She can apply for a one year extension of stay for him based upon his mother being Thai for a fee of 1900 baht. His birth certificate will be the proof of that.

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, jeab1980 said:

Stay away from immigration baby can be on overstay but there will be no action taken when you or wife leaves with Baby.

Why stay away from immigration. As I just wrote he can get a one year extension.

He will get an overstay stamp which can take up some time on departure from the country.

[jeab1980]

59 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Why stay away from immigration. As I just wrote he can get a one year extension.

He will get an overstay stamp which can take up some time on departure from the country.

Beacuse thats what i did in nearly the same circumstances. It then became a real issue luckily my wife and baby were still in UK. Due to the immigration office being predantic and not at all helpfull,  i cancelled there flight and  took a leave of absense from work and went back to UK we then waited in UK for my sons Thai passport to be issued, end if all problems full stop. 

[jeab1980]

OP good luck with everything hope it all works out in the end. 

[raven0099]

On ‎14‎/‎09‎/‎2017 at 4:11 AM, jeab1980 said:

OP good luck with everything hope it all works out in the end. 

Hi , just an update to my thread,

 

we recently attended the Thai embassy in London with the intention of getting my son a Thai birth certificate only , but it was explained to me and my wife he could only apply for birth cert and passport together, luckily I had two copies of all documents required plus the photos , so after a bit of a panick my wife with a bit of assistance from folk there and embassy staff got the forms filled out and we submitted the application for both and had our baby's passport photos taken by the embassy.

 

The woman also said they strongly advise against babies travelling on a non Thai passport and staying over the thirty day visa on arrival , she said our baby should be ok this time as he is travelling with his mother so it will not cause any trouble but we really should have applied for a visa beforehand and she will need to inform immigration on arrival.

 

When they checked in at the airport there were no mention of visa's.

 

My advice regarding the Embassy is , arrive as early as possible, be prepared with your forms and supporting documents, and be patient you will get there, the embassy waiting area is very small and with visa collections from 11am to 12pm it was chaos.

 

And finally they only deal with enquiries from 9am to 12.30pm. 

 

Best of luck to everyone doing similar and thanks for all the advice from you guys :) 

Edited November 11, 2017 by raven0099
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[Paul944]

Good to hear everything went well. Having all the papers ready helps of course. A lot of people complaining just do not have the required documents ready. A bit weird you can not get a birth certificate only.