Officials inspect shops to prevent hoarding before new excise rate takes effect

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Officials inspect shops to prevent hoarding before new excise rate takes effect

By Thai PBS

 

 

BANGKOK: -- The Excise Department has assured the public that new taxes for consumer goods which will begin to be enforced on Sept 16 will not cause difficulties and ask people not to hoard goods.

 

Somchai Poonsawat,  the director-general of the Excise Department, said that the department will be forwarding the new tax proposals for the cabinet’s approval on Sept 12.

 

These new tax brackets cover goods such as alcohol, cigarettes and playing cards.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/officials-inspect-shops-prevent-hoarding-new-excise-rate-takes-effect/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-09-08

[Bluespunk]

"The new law will affect goods that are harmful to health and environment, luxury goods such as perfumes, and glasswares, he said."

 

Yes. About time someone did something about that damned curse...glassware. 

 

How many lives have been ruined by this horror of horrors?

 

Oh, and the sheer scale of its environmental destruction brings me to tears. 

 

Thank you for saving us from this scourge on humanity. 

 

(Yes I know, it's poorly worded reporting but it did make me laugh)

Edited September 8, 2017 by Bluespunk

[JAG]

You know I can understand taxing booze and fags, even putting an extra tax on perfumes and other " high end luxury goods", but I have never really understood the bit about playing cards...

[robblok]

10 minutes ago, JAG said:

You know I can understand taxing booze and fags, even putting an extra tax on perfumes and other " high end luxury goods", but I have never really understood the bit about playing cards...

Gambling is a sin and in their eyes playing cards can only be used for gambling (not as we Europeans or at least Dutch people know other games that dont involve money and gambling).

 

Now that I think about it if they think cards will be used for gambling.. why not totally outlaw them as gambling is forbidden .. and if they don't think you can only gamble with them why tax them.

 

Confusing, but then again TIT

[12DrinkMore]

17 hours ago, robblok said:

why not totally outlaw them as gambling is forbidden

 

Because it is a nice little earner for the finance ministry's monopoly. More than a few Benz's and happy mia nois purchased.

 

http://www.wopc.co.uk/thailand/playing-cards-factory

 

400,000 decks sold every month, and that was in 2011.

[Wilsonandson]

Out of personal interest does anyone know how much beer and cigarettes will go up in 3 days time?

If its 2-5 baht no problem but if it's 10-20 baht then I want to go stock pile my fridge and buy a multipack too.

I'm sure I'm not alone.

[Lucky mike]

Kill the golden goose ?

[Retiredandhappyhere]

So, they even think that they have the right to prevent the owner/manager of a shop from ordering more goods than usual in order to avoid a tax increase?   Customers do it all the time when they hear that a price increase of a certain product is imminent and shops have the right to try to meet that increased demand.  It is called "business" and it should be of no concern of the authorities, but of course, they want to present an image, as usual, of doing something, even when they have no legal power to do so and in fact do absolutely nothing than present a show of doing so.

[worgeordie]

More inflation,while the rates given at banks remains the same,

no wonder so many people are in debt,when having savings,

your capital is just losing value day by day.

regards worgeordie

[YetAnother]

1 hour ago, Wilsonandson said:

Out of personal interest does anyone know how much beer and cigarettes will go up in 3 days time?

If its 2-5 baht no problem but if it's 10-20 baht then I want to go stock pile my fridge and buy a multipack too.

I'm sure I'm not alone.

totally agree, hoarding is not illegal, most natural

[YetAnother]

1 hour ago, Wilsonandson said:

Out of personal interest does anyone know how much beer and cigarettes will go up in 3 days time?

If its 2-5 baht no problem but if it's 10-20 baht then I want to go stock pile my fridge and buy a multipack too.

I'm sure I'm not alone.

well it isnt much of a combat technique; however i am going to my local wholesaler and make note of the current prices and then same after the increases;  this should reveal the actual increases by product,

along the way it should reveal the profit experienced by retailers such as restaurants;  there might even be a shift away from drinking/sipping in those rests that increase their prices even over the increases of the wholesalers

in fact , whereas i used to cringe at rests with good food that did not have beer, i may now patronize them more and buy at the corner shops and bring the beer in

also, my friends and i are looking more seriously at home brewing possibilities

[ramrod711]

7 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Dutch tulip bubble

A bit before your time, I strongly suspect.

[wgdanson]

20 hours ago, robblok said:

Gambling is a sin and in their eyes playing cards can only be used for gambling (not as we Europeans or at least Dutch people know other games that dont involve money and gambling).

 

Now that I think about it if they think cards will be used for gambling.. why not totally outlaw them as gambling is forbidden .. and if they don't think you can only gamble with them why tax them.

 

Confusing, but then again TIT

Maybe we shall all have to delete Microsoft Solitaire from our PCs !

[worgeordie]

10 minutes ago, ramrod711 said:

A bit before your time, I strongly suspect.

Yes but you should learn from the past,as some things never change.

regards worgeordie

[newcomer71]

3 hours ago, Retiredandhappyhere said:

So, they even think that they have the right to prevent the owner/manager of a shop from ordering more goods than usual in order to avoid a tax increase?   Customers do it all the time when they hear that a price increase of a certain product is imminent and shops have the right to try to meet that increased demand.  It is called "business" and it should be of no concern of the authorities, but of course, they want to present an image, as usual, of doing something, even when they have no legal power to do so and in fact do absolutely nothing than present a show of doing so.

Dinosaurs, despite their huge size, have micro brains...

[Baerboxer]

On 9/8/2017 at 3:12 PM, robblok said:

Gambling is a sin and in their eyes playing cards can only be used for gambling (not as we Europeans or at least Dutch people know other games that dont involve money and gambling).

 

Now that I think about it if they think cards will be used for gambling.. why not totally outlaw them as gambling is forbidden .. and if they don't think you can only gamble with them why tax them.

 

Confusing, but then again TIT

 

I used to play a lot of good card games with the wifey before the kids came along. Never involved money 

[nong38]

4 hours ago, YetAnother said:

well it isnt much of a combat technique; however i am going to my local wholesaler and make note of the current prices and then same after the increases;  this should reveal the actual increases by product,

along the way it should reveal the profit experienced by retailers such as restaurants;  there might even be a shift away from drinking/sipping in those rests that increase their prices even over the increases of the wholesalers

in fact , whereas i used to cringe at rests with good food that did not have beer, i may now patronize them more and buy at the corner shops and bring the beer in

also, my friends and i are looking more seriously at home brewing possibilities

According to a BBC article 3 days ago about a Thai man who runs a brewing business in Cambodia then imports the beer back into Thailand the amount he would have to brew in Thailand to be within the law  in Thailand is 10,000,000 litres a year. I guess thats why a few control the market.

[jackinthebox]

On 8.9.2017 at 10:00 AM, JAG said:

You know I can understand taxing booze and fags, even putting an extra tax on perfumes and other " high end luxury goods", but I have never really understood the bit about playing cards...

I don't know if the new tax applies to these also. Just in case I bought some packs last week. Fun to play, especially if you add some extra rules of the game.

[fforest1]

Are people in Thailand children?....Why cant they say what the tax increase is?....Is it a secret? 

[NanLaew]

On 9/8/2017 at 3:12 PM, robblok said:

Gambling is a sin and in their eyes playing cards can only be used for gambling (not as we Europeans or at least Dutch people know other games that dont involve money and gambling).

 

Now that I think about it if they think cards will be used for gambling.. why not totally outlaw them as gambling is forbidden .. and if they don't think you can only gamble with them why tax them.

 

Confusing, but then again TIT

What does the average Thai do when he/she is gambling? They smoke and drink.

 

They've hit the Trifecta with this one!

[TheLobster]

Quote

"To allay the public’s concern over possible hoarding by shops" - Somchai Poonsawat,  the director-general of the Excise Department

Usual BS spiel, why would the public be concerned by shops hoarding goods before the prices go up?

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and replies have been removed, this topic is not about cryptocurrency.

[tomta]

It is actually a pretty serious thing these restrictions on playing cards that Robblok mentions above. I learnt a lot of arithmetic as a kid from playing simple card games such as "Snap" and "Fish".Cards are an educational resource. Would a Thai  mathematics professor in the mold of Oxford don Lewis Carroll ever have been able to come up with something like  "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland" which is totally dependent on knowledge of cards and card games? The answer is no. The reason is that the Thai educational and social system requires and admits one and only one answer to every question:

What are playing cards for ? (1) Gambling (2) Innocent amusement (3) Building Houses of Cards, thus developing dexterity and mechanical skills (4) a tool in the analysis of probability theory. Answer (1)  Gambling and only Gambling. Ban or restrict. Censor. 

 

Thus you never see small kids playing with cards. You see adults who are treated like small kids playing with them as an act of defiance, a small and pathetic act in most cases, a large criminal act in others like casinos.

[tomta]

I wonder how a foreign teacher might fare if he or she introduced a few simple card games as an aid to learning in a maths or EFL class?

[tomta]

Apologies for the continuing digression but digressions can be good. This was a song that extolled the virtues of playing cards from my parents' record collection. Listen to it all the way through if you can prevent yourself from throwing up

 

[wakeupplease]

So retailers bring in extra stocks b4 the price hike then pocked the extra cash made when they sell at the increased price.

 

Goes on everywhere does it not.